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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:24 AM
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Sibel Edmonds to be on 60 Minutes tomorrow with NEW stuff
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 10:38 AM by Bozita
just heard on "This is Hell!"

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:29 AM
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1. way cool !!!
can't wait. This woman's story has had far too little exposure in the mainstream media.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:29 AM
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2. Sebil Edmonds is the one to sink Bush's ship
This gal knows some shit and the American people need to know

There is going to be an all out Freeper attack on this poor woman, but hopefully some of the lawmakers in Washington will pick up on the story and demand ASSCRAFT to stop blocking her story

Get ready DU there is going to be an all out letter and phone champaign to our lawmakers to let this woman be heard
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:32 AM
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3. What's going on with CBS?
They are becoming ...dare I say it....PATRIOTIC. Perhaps trying to redeem themselves from Pre-war blindness?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:34 AM
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5. Yes they are!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:32 AM
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4. New stuff
great! A lot of America hasn't heard her old stuff.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:35 AM
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6. Sorry, me no understand...who is she?
What's her story?
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:37 AM
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7. link
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:40 AM
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8. Thanks...and holy Shit!
Ashcroft had her translations erased from her computer? Damn this is gonna be good.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:40 AM
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9. If mainstream media doesn't pick it up this time
They have to give up all claims to being news media.

This is Hell also had someone on from FAIR. FAIR said that news stations do not air liberal segments because the target audience would be free thinkers and advertisers do not want free thinkers. FAIR said the advertisers prefer right-wingers because their advertising works better on them.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:42 AM
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10. now that is just sad. i think
i will have to share this with some of my friends in the area. lol lol lol to funny to me
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:02 AM
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11. beautiful
n/t
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:09 AM
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12. Wow...
The FBI has conceded that some people in the language department are unable to adequately speak English or the language they're supposed to be translating.

Great. Just great.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:14 AM
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14. They also noted a similar problem in the White House.
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:16 AM
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17. The stupidity...
is just overwhelming.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:17 AM
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18. In both places.
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:18 AM
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19. Yes indeed n/t
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 01:33 PM
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22. I recall that shortly after 9/11
many translators were fired due to their sexual orientation. There must be a link somewhere.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 01:43 PM
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23. I remember that group firing -- link to CBS News story
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 01:50 PM by Bozita

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/14/attack/main529418.shtml

Gay Linguists Get The Boot

SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 14, 2002

Nine Army linguists, including six trained to speak Arabic, have been dismissed from the military because they are gay.

The soldiers' dismissals come at a time when the military is facing a critical shortage of translators and interpreters for the war on terrorism.

Seven of the soldiers were discharged after telling superiors they are gay, and the two others got in trouble when they were caught together after curfew, said Steve Ralls, spokesman for the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, a group that defends homosexuals in the military.

Six were specializing in Arabic, two were studying Korean and one was studying Mandarin Chinese. All were at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, the military's primary language training center.

more...
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:11 AM
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13. CBS.com link:
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 11:14 AM by alg0912
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/25/60minutes/main526954.shtml


hubba-hubba!;)

<snip>
(CBS) This is the story of hundreds, if not thousands, of foreign language documents that the FBI neglected to translate before and after the Sept. 11 attacks because of problems in its language department - documents that detailed what the FBI heard on wiretaps and learned during interrogations of suspected terrorists.

Sibel Edmonds, a translator who worked at the FBI's language division, says the documents weren't translated because the divison was riddled with incompetence and corruption.

Edmonds was fired after reporting her concerns to FBI officials. She told her story behind closed doors to investigators in Congress and to the Justice Department. Most recently, she spoke with the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks.

She spoke with Correspondent Ed Bradley in October 2002.
</snip>

Are you sure there's gonna be new info? :shrug:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:16 AM
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15. "the Sibel Edmonds story will be updated"
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 11:18 AM by Bozita
That's a rough quote from the radio program, "This is Hell!"

I am assuming that means some new material.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:16 AM
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16. October 2002!
:grr:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 02:00 PM
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24. Ah, this might be before they gagged her?
That would be great.

Now, why did they wait til NOW? From October til now. Why?
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:19 AM
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20. Great!
Now if Reagan just holds on a little while longer, this will get the air time it deserves.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:33 AM
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21. Here's a taste of what she has said already.
This is going to be good! I was hoping for the ENRON tapes to be played in their entirety though. :cry:


SE: I started working for the Bureau immediately after 9/11 and I was performing translations for several languages: Farsi, Turkish, and Azerbaijani. And I do have top-secret clearance. And after I started working for the Bureau, most of my translation duties included translations of documents and investigations that actually started way before 9/11. And certain documents were being sent that needed to be re-translated for various reasons, and of course certain documents had to be translated for the first time due to the backlog.

During my work there I came across some very significant issues that I started reporting in December of 2001 to the mid-level management within the FBI. They said to basically leave it alone, because if they were to get into those issues it would end up being a can of worms. And after I didn't see any response from this mid-level bureaucratic management I took it to higher levels all the way up to Dale Watson and Director Mueller. And, again, I was asked not to take this any further and just let it be. And if I didn't do that they would retaliate against me.

At that point, which would be around February 2002, they came and they confiscated my computer, because, they said, they were suspecting that I was communicating with certain Senate members and taking this issue outside the Bureau. And, at that point, I was not. They did not find anything in my computer after they confiscated it. And they asked me to take a polygraph as to the allegations and reports I'd made. I volunteered and I took the polygraph and passed it without a glitch. They have already confirmed this publicly.

In March 2002 I took this issue to the Senate Judiciary Committee and also I filed it with the Department of Justice Inspector General's office. And as per the Senate Judiciary Committee's request the IG started an expedited investigation on these serious issues; and they promised the Senate Judiciary Committee that their report for these investigations would be out by fall 2002 latest. And here we are in April 2004 and this report is not being made public, and they are citing "state privilege" and "national security" for not making this report public.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 02:02 PM
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25. I knew that would be you......thought I would get to be the one to
bring this up

Chuck has the hots for her, doesn't he?

and was today's show excellent, or what?

didn't realize the guy who did the Salon article on Judith Miller is the same one who did Bush's Brain
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 02:34 PM
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26. It's the best college radio show with a stream
Chuck called her "the hottest whistleblower going." No disagreement here.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:38 AM
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27. Guess what, and this IS obnoxious.
A 60 Minutes e-mail message concerning the schedule change tommorrow, which means we're NOT going to see Sibel Edmonds, after all. <sigh>

June 5, 2004

Ronald Reagan Remembered

This special email alert is being sent to you to let you know of a special 60 Minutes broadcast on Sunday, June 6, at 7 p.m.ET/PT.

No reporter knew Ronald and Nancy Reagan like Mike Wallace knew them. Ronald Reagan died Saturday in California. On 60 Minutes Sunday, Mike looks back at his interviews with the Reagans at their beloved California ranch, about their years together from when they met in Hollywood, their movie careers, their years in politics, and in the White House. And we'll look again at Mike's special interview with the former first lady from just a few years ago. In it, Nancy Reagan talks about living with the president in his final years, coping with his disease.

Correspondent Dan Rather also joins us Sunday night, for a look at one of the characteristics even those who didn't always agree with Mr. Reagan's politics admired: the Reagan sense of humor, his way with a story, the way he used humor to help him through even the darkest times.
(snip/)
E-mail to 60 Minutes watchers sent 11:08 p.m., EST, Saturday night.

So do you think they are going to pitch it altogether? I was REALLY looking forward to it after seeing this thread earlier Saturday. Damn.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:54 AM
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28. Except it will be pre-empted with Reagan eulogies (nt)
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 05:45 AM
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29. kick for tonight!
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