A Warning From RightNation.Us

[DougieZero]

I was luring around RightNation and saw this thread: http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=41313

When I was over at the DU, looking at the rather vile crap being vomited all over that board, I came across a couple of people that I know, IRL.
Guess what? They work for me!
Come bright and early Monday morning, I am going to call them into my office and fire them.
Not because of what they said about President Reagan, but for what they said about conservatives, and Bush-supporters. I looked up their posts over a period of time, and was disgusted. They both implied that they were giving them a lower level of care.
I can no longer trust them to provide the proper care for those that do not agree with them, or their politics. I cannot have that, and I will, By God, NOT have bigotry of any sort within my staff.
So, they will lose their jobs. They have no business being in EMS if they feel that way, and are doing what they say they are. So, I will have to go through all of their run tickets, and audit them for problems.
I cannot take the risk of having them employed by our company. Especially in a lawsuit-happy society.
The fact that I will, for the first time, take great personal pleasure in firing them is nothing more than a side-benefit. If they were woking tonight or tomorrow, I would have to pull them of the squads, because of this.

But, It should make them happy. They'll have one more thing to blame on conservatives

he then said:

I will be firing them based on the fact that I can no longer trust them to provide care equally to all people. This really isn't the first time that I have had questions about he kind of care they have provided, but it does give me the link that I was looking for.
We are in a very conservaitive community, where a very large majority supports Bush, Republicans, and our troops, and we are not afraid to have signs or bimper stickers proudly displayed saying so. I have recieve complaints from police officers and fire-fighters about their attitudes, and manner at times, but it was sporadic. I simply did not see the connection. Until today.
I am not worried about violating any laws by firing them, and after talking to the owner of the company a little while ago, he said to get rid of them. I'll have the company lawyer with me when I do it, just to make sure.

My primary is, and must always be the people who entrust their care and safety to us, always. There can never be any consideration that rises above that.
All other considerations are secondary, as they should be.

Admittedly, I will derive great personal satisfaction from doing my job in this case, but again, that is secondary.

[kentuck]

1. That must have been that "moon" guy...

:)

[LTR]

2. *sniff* *sniff*... what's that smell? ...

...smells like... BULLSHIT!!!

Uhhh, right.

[Sparkly]

9. Although it could be baloney, or perhaps hogwash

...sniff...

[VolcanoJen]

50. Delusions of Grandeur, authored by a low-level fantastical lackey.

Poor bastard.

[Mikimouse]

3. Sounds like utter BS to me...

and intimidation of that type doesn't work around here.

[louis c]

4. Unions

It's becouse of assholes like him that we need Unions to protect us.

[Name removed]

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[WillParkinson]

54. HUH?

What are you talking about? The post (if you mean the one to which you replied) seemed pro-union.

[Delano]

55. How do you figure?

He's saying that unions are there to fight for people that are fired for doing their jobs badly - that's rightwing thinking.

Unions are there to fight for people who are UNJUSTLY fired - WRONGLY accused of doing their jobs badly.

The poster's assumption seems to be that unions will keep BAD employees on the job. Don't you get where I'm coming from?

It could be just as you say, and the poster thinks the employees are innocent - and he believes in the phony premise that the guy actually fired somebody. I just got the feeling that he was jumping at the chance to get in a subtle dig at unions.

[WillParkinson]

57. Unions are to fight...

Which is what I believe he was saying. We need unions to protect us from people like him - those who'd accuse us of doing substandard jobs as a pretense for firing us.

Of course, I could be wrong. I don't know.

[louis c]

61. Wake Up

The Right Wing asshole is threatening to fire EMT's for their public, political positions. For your info, I'm a B.A., and I deal with this type of situation every day. My public, political position is that defeating George Bush is the most important job we have this year, and we better understand each other if we are to succeed.

[Name removed]

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[Toots]

66. You seem to be the one making assumptions

All the poster said was this is one reason we need unions. there are a great multitude of reasons for unions and overbearing managers is but one.

[louis c]

62. Wrong Reply

My reply (Wake Up) to 55 was meant for 45. Sorry, but I'm new at this, and I just woke up.

[Vickers]

5. Thank Gawd I'm self-employed and ain't gotta worry about this shit

;)

But hey, if you ARE an EMS person on this board, bookmark and save that thread.

Also: Note the irony of a freeper being offended by bigotry.

*snicker*

[Nlighten1]

6. Sounds like a lawsuit...

[Mikimouse]

10. Yeah, now let's see if I remember the words...

something superficial about it being illegal to discriminate based on race, sex, national origin, CREED, etc., but I'm probably mistaken, silly progressive that I am.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

7. If I were them - I would print off that post and keep it. It is illegal to

fire someone for political beliefs. Good for you to give the people a head's up. You may give them ammo for a lawsuit or prevent them from being fired. That dumbass had best read the next person's post and take it to heart:

"Advocate, be damn careful. Man, you could get popped big time if you fire someone over their political beliefs. If they said they did but didn't really do it, watch out.
As an employer, I know you know the rules better than I, don't mean to tell you your business. Just be careful"

That wing nut better have some DAMN good proof that they said they were giving people a lower level of care - which I doubt.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

11. Save this post!!!!! Copy it!!!

This is ILLEGAL!!!

[Delano]

46. He's talking about firing someone for DOING A LOUSY JOB

not their political beliefs. He's saying that some DUers are treating patients bady because they are repugs. I'm sure the story is a lie, though.

[Toots]

67. How many warnings did he give them for their poor job?

He was talking about firing them for their posts on DU and brought up poor performance as an afterthought. The law requires warnings giving with an opportunity to improve.

[Delano]

80. My interpreteation of the rightwinger's (fictional) story...

Was that these supposed "DUers" were deliberately giving poor treatment to GOP patients out of malice. IF the scenario were true, they SHOULD be fired (depending on the severity - I'm assuming he means not changing bedpans or bedding, ignoring them)

But anyway, I think the vast majority of liberals would be ethical enough to treat their patients (or customers, passengers, whatever) decently and fairly, even if they were GOP scum. I know I would, and I despise repugs with the best of them...

Anyway its a phony made up story - not worth much more discussion...

[XanaDUer]

8. I smell manure

of the BS kind.


PS-this is the petty tyranny in which conservs love to revel.

[seabeyond]

12. if they have never been disciplined, or written up

i would be making a copy of this and go after them, though he did cover his butt pretty well

[qwertyMike]

13. Grandiose Fantasy

He's probably unemployed and lives in a room with newspaper clipping on the wall.

[theivoryqueen]

27. funny, but prob'ly true

sounds like a low-power-base rant. Most of those I know who have the authority to "fire" already know better than to advertise indiscreet reasons.

[DulceDecorum]

14. What is a conservative

doing in human services in the first place?
Showing his "compassion" to his employees?

Since most people entering an ambulance are in no condition to discuss politics,
and since conservatives have been known,
on many and several occasions,
to support the gunning down of ambulances and the outright murder of ambulance drivers,
what exactly is that pervert doing in that field?

If that freeper twit fires anyone,
then he is guilty of doing so simply because of their political affiliation
which is the exact same thing that the damn hypocrite is accusing others of.

I wonder just how many people are going to DIE
as a direct result of that rightwingnut's misdeeds.

REGISTER TO VOTE NOW.

[truebrit71]

15. Coupla things...

1) Copy this post, company lawyer or not this moran's ass is toast in a lawsuit..

and, perhaps more importantly

2) This is complete and utter bullshit...

[charlie]

18. 'course it's bullshit

I'll give a tenner to anyone who can tell me who I work for.

That clown is just strutting to enhance his freeper cred.

[maggrwaggr]

16. I doubt that guy's in charge of anything but his own laundry

Har har har

[linazelle]

25. ditto

[theivoryqueen]

30. yuppers.

maybe he gets to do litter-box patrol....

[Toots]

68. His mother is in charge of that I'm sure.

:shrug:

[mw]

17. If it's true, the guy is an idiot for posting it here

Even too idiotic for your average Republican.

Whoever said "Print it out and keep it" is right.

Print it out, and then PRAY that you get fired over it. It'll be like winning the lottery, you lucky bastage! The lawsuit will make you rich!

Lucky duck.

[DougieZero]

21. hey

that's not my post! ... i copied and pasted it here.

[Sparkly]

19. It's amazing what people will try in an effort to stifle free speech...

'nuff said.

[liberalhistorian]

20. First of all, this seems like nothing

more than bullshit to me. How the hell would the poster know who the people even were, anyway? Second, even if it isn't bullshit, he would never be able to get away with it. You simply CANNOT fire people in that type of job (EMS) for political beliefs and for what they post on a message board on their own damned time (if they were doing it when they were supposed to be working, that's a different story but that doesn't appear to be the case), it just can't be done. Surely the poster knows this and is just being macho.

And he's in for one helluva lawsuit if it is real and he does pull this shit. And how in the hell would an EMS person know the political persuasion of a patient, anyway? Do people have liberal or conservative stamped on their fucking foreheads? I don't think so.

And how ironic, a repuke wingnut complaining about the bigotry of someone discriminating on the basis of political beliefs, how deliciously ironic!!!

On edit: Again, how the hell would he know who the people posting even were, much less that they were his employees? And how the hell is he gonna prove that it's really them when they just have screen names?

[MisterP]

22. bimper stickers?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

23. Most of the people there are telling him not to do it. Guess those

people aren't as bad as the Freepers...

[seabeyond]

24. the man who wrote this if he is lurking

shame on you. i run a business have employees that are all opposite views of mine in politics and never would i do something so shameful. with anothers living. this is the ugliness of who you are. being manager and responsible for employees you have a greater obligation, and you fail, if you fire people for political affiliations. come up with whatever excuse to validate your decision, it is a flaw on you.

shame on you

[LittleApple81]

26. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!! He cannot even write coherent sentences. Maybe

verbally he can be more articulate. But he probably needs a lawyer just to be able to function. And his boss should fire him as well for wasting time here in DU.

[Walt Starr]

28. One of two possibilities here

1) He's lying his fucked up ass off.

2) Some DUer is gonna OWN his fucked up ass for illegal discrimination.

[Skip Intro]

29. This sounds like some bored bushbot's attempt at fame to me

Its total bullshit - he defies the type of thought he pretends to espouse. That little, "the fact that I will get pleasure from it is NOT why I'm going to do it" crap.

And then there's the "we've got conservative crap everywhere" thing.

And "police and firemen" have noticed the contemptable liberal activity.

Firemen?

Its total bullshit. Some moran who I can visualize as shirking some work-related responsibility to post crap like that...

If I were able to reply to him, I'd say simply, "whatever dude."

[Trajan]

31. Most of the responses there are AGAINST this mean tactic ...

Hey: there is always at least ONE asshole in the bunch ... right ? ...

THAT post is of a dogmatic fool: the others were reasonable, even if they are conservative ...

[Beatrix]

32. If anyone does get fired tomorrow

take this post as evidence and SUE THE HELL OUT OF HIM. Terminating a person because of political views off the job is HIGHLY illegal. It will be a slam dunk case.

Don't worry about his "oh I'm REALLY firing them because..." shit. A jury will see right through it.

Let him fire you - then retire early with his money. Better yet - donate it directly to the democratic party.

edit: Also - It would be sad if he THINKS he knows the person(s) here work for him, but actually do NOT and he ends up firing the wrong person(s). Oh well, guess they get to retire early.

[DougieZero]

33. WOW

they are going nuts in that rightnation.us thread...

[Catt03]

34. Read your all your posts Dougie

So you are an independent?

They don't sound so bad over there....except for that poster who wants to fire employees who post on DU.

[DougieZero]

37. DU has their idiots but...

firing the employee really made me made and I do believe him... They can playfully goof on me... I can take it.

[thebigidea]

49. you got made? you're a made man now?

Am I a clown? DO I AMUSE YOU!??!

[Catt03]

35. self delete

[AP]

36. Freeper fantasies of being the boss. Cute.

[John_H]

38. If that post were anything but psycho rambling, those'd two lucky SOB's.

That'd be good for a year's salary, plus putative damages, plus great press for Dems. LOL!

[salin]

39. Funny, but I don't ever recall

reading posts from two (not one) EMTs ... let alone two (not one) who discuss providing lower quality of services to patients for any reason let alone political reasons.

Sounds like the dude is making up the stroy.

[Angelus]

40. What a fucking prick.

He cannot fire someone based on his/her political beliefs. What they do here online is none of his fucking business. It's waaaaaaaay outside of his jurisdiction.

If I were to get fired by that sorry-ass son of a bitch, I'd sue his ass right away for false termination.

God damn fucking pricks those fucking republicans are. :grr: They all need to burn in hell with Reagan.

[Blue_Tires]

41. ttt

I can't WAIT to see what actually happens Monday morning...typical all-talk, wannabe-hard-ass, limp-dick weakling

[LibertyorDeath]

42. Hey DougieZero unless you want to get tagged as a freeptard

don't post such obvious bullshit.

Why would we give a shit what some simpleton at some shit hole called
RightNation.Us says

I think the vast majority of people here
could not give a flying fuck about anything said at RightNation.Us

You could have chosen anything as your thread title

"A Warning From RightNation.Us"

That's just shit

[DougieZero]

43. beat me with a stick next time

i noticed some guy on there mentioning DU and firing a few of his employees for posting on here... bullshit or not, it was a worth it for the unintentional comedy.

[Delano]

44. This thing seems so made-up

Phony piety, pretending he knows "some of us" personally, acting as though he gives a damn about patients' care.

We all know repukes would sell their own grendma for a pack of smokes, and they think nothing of dumping carcinogens into peoples' groundwater.

This message is phony.

Also, I'd like to see just WHICH DUer actually said they were going to give poor treatment to GOP patients. If it was there, I'm SURE it was a joke - buit anyway, this guy is lying about "firing them."

[Cronus Protagonist]

47. What If They Were Really Freeper Infiltrators?

Maybe they're freeper infiltrators who are going overboard to try to fit in here undercover.... think about it...

Click here for "FUCK BUSH", and other fair and balanced yet stunning buttons, magnets and stickers

[Norquist Nemesis]

60. I'm with you Cronus.

Isn't it donating members who have the search function available to search by author, etc.? But, then again, that's the guy's first 'out' if the thing is BS.

Also, how would he know "who" is behind an ID? He doesn't say he looked at the profiles and that would be the only way I can see it possible to "know" the posters. How could he possibly know...and for not just one, but two?!

Something smells funny about the post when you look at his declaration of searching and knowing two DU members that work for him.

[noiretextatique]

48. LIAR

and pathetic one at that :hurts:

[JCMach1]

51. I smell lawsuit if they do fire anyone...

whoever gets fired will OWN this guy

[FDRrocks]

52. Most of the people on that site are replying rather sanely....

Interesting.

on edit: At least on the first page :)

[Piperay]

53. Sounds like the guy is full of shit

wants to be a big shot and is trying to impress the idiots on his regular board. How the hell would this moron even be able to figure out that someone here is an employee of 'his' (NOT). I bet the guy's real job is cleaning out toilets, he's delusional. :silly: :freak:

[Delano]

56. This reminds me of the rightwing posts on Yahoo!

Where they say "All anti-bush, anti-American posts have been reported to Yahoo!"

And they imply that homeland security is going to visit you or whatever (as if Yahoo chacks out their posts at all - LOL)

They also like to brag how they "fired a liberal" or "raped a liberal" or whatever. YOu can never believe a word these people say - even more subtle stuff like this.

[Toots]

58. How many conservatives are care givers?

I would venture a big fat zero. It goes totally against their ideology of me me mine mine. BS at it's best.

[moondust]

59. I'm sure they're over here using their real names.

With a fascist ape for a "boss" watching them. Phony baloney.

[Misinformed01]

63. Note from a former paramedic here:

First of all, I can't remember the last time I saw a privatly owned ambulance; by "private" I should clarify myself and add that by "private" I am not including hospital based service providers. The days of the funeral home ambulance are pretty much over.

Hospitals, cities, and counties have fairly strict guidelines for firing people...if this guy is on that much of a power trip, he is in for a pretty rude awakening Monday morning.

Secondly, I'll be damned if I can remember another paramedic/firefighter on DU. There are a couple of nurses here....but, not any prolific EMS folks that I can think of--hope I didn't just insult anyone by calling them "forgetable!"

My conclusion is that this poster on the other board is trying to move his imaginary legend from his mind to the internet.

Stephanie

[LTR]

65. Here in Milwaukee

The ambulance services are privately owned.

[salin]

75. bingo!

That was my read as well. Can't remember any such conversations... not only about emt work - but about giving lesser service based on political affiliation... and that two - working for the same company - would be discussing this outloud on DU - right?!?! Give me a break. Guy wants to look big and bad. Will be rather interesting to see how he "follows" this little tale up. Wonder how long the folks on that board will believe the dude. Nothing like watching someone burn up their credibility while trying to look studly.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

64. 29 post wonder posts "warning" from RIGHTNATION.US? Hmmm....

Is that the smell of bacon....

Or an attempt to intimidate expression on DU?

[Rebellious Republican]

69. Good catch MM, makes you say Hmmmmmmmmm!

I doubt the validity of the post myself, very strange indeed.
:toast:

[DougieZero]

71. Thanks

I'm actually a registered Democrat. My voting history:

2000: Al Gore
2002: Jennifer Granholm
2004: Howard Dean (michigan primaries)
2004: (will be) John Kerry

Go ahead and put on your tinfoil hat if you want though...

[salin]

76. I don't doubt you as much as I doubt

the guy spouting off. Story doesn't stack up. Wonder how he will keep the myth going and how long before he screws up his own lies to his buddies onthe board and they figure it out.

[ScreamingMeemie]

70. Yes, and another conservative I know got 10 (yes 10) people to vote

for Kerry just by coming to this board. :eyes: And I have some swampland to sell you...and some ocean front property in Arizona and on it goes.

What a buffoon.

[Ripley]

72. Yeah, most DUers give out their work addresses.

I only know of 2 DUers who have freely given out specific info of where they work.

This is so lame. Hey Dougie, do you really think you are scaring us? You must have delusions of grandeur.

[pezcore64]

73. hum

being fired for political views....
isnt that illegal?
hummmmmm
hehe

[molly]

74. If that happens - PLEASE go directly to HR

insist that this looney contact security and have them bring HR to his office. And while you are at it - contact the media - all of the media in your area.

The company lawyer will advise him not to do it - take my word.

We're talking big bucks here guys. Let em do it!

[molly]

77. Dougie - I tried to click on your blog - not there?

[DougieZero]

78. nope

I ditched it for a livejournal... http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=dougiezero