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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:52 AM
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Tucker Carlson "ashamed" and "enraged"....
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 12:10 PM by kentuck
When a comedy show is left to tell the news, what does it say about our country? Eric Alterman praises The Daily Show.
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http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040607&s=alterman

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The Bush Administration has not made it easy on its supporters. David Brooks now admits that he was gripped with a "childish fantasy" about Iraq. Tucker Carlson is "ashamed" and "enraged" at himself. Tom Friedman, admitting to being "a little slow," is finally off the reservation. Die-hard Republican publicist William Kristol admits of Bush, "He did drive us into a ditch." The neocon fantasist and sometime Republican speechwriter Mark Helprin complains on the Wall Street Journal editorial page--the movement's Pravda--of "the inescapable fact that the war has been run incompetently, with an apparently deliberate contempt for history, strategy, and thought, and with too little regard for the American soldier, whose mounting casualties seem to have no effect on the boastfulness of the civilian leadership."

Most of the regretful hawks blame the Administration for its failure to execute what they consider a noble endeavor. But it is a noble endeavor only in the way it would be noble to give all your money to one of those deposed Ethiopian princesses who fill your inbox with pleas to send them all your money for a guarantee of future riches. In other words, yes, while it might have been nice to liberate Iraq from Saddam's clutches, it was a lot more likely that under Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Co., we would end up arresting innocent people, holding them without trial and systematically torturing and sexually humiliating them; all the while saying, as the Daily Show's Rob Corddry so brilliantly put it, "Remember, it's not important that we did torture these people. What's important is that we are not the kind of people who would torture these people."


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These are the men not just the neocons but self-described progressives and human-rights advocates believed capable of carrying out the delicate and difficult mission of bringing democracy and modernism to the Arab world, while safeguarding the security and good name of the United States. Excuse me, but just what was so hard to understand about this bunch? We knew they were dishonest. We knew they were fanatical. We knew they were purposely ignorant and bragged about not reading newspapers. We knew they were vindictive. We knew they were lawless. We knew they were obsessively secretive. We knew they had no time or patience for those who raised difficult questions. We knew they were driven by fantasies of religious warfare, personal vengeance and ideological triumph. We knew they had no respect for civil liberties. And we knew they took no responsibility for the consequences of their incompetence. Just what is surprising about the manner in which they've conducted the war?

And how pathetic is it that the only cable network really grappling with the media's failure is Comedy Central? Let's give the last word to the Daily Show's incomparable Stephen Colbert: "The journalists I know love America, but now all anybody wants to talk about is the bad journalists--the journalists that hurt America.... Who didn't uncover the flaws in our prewar intelligence? Who gave a free pass on the Saddam-Al Qaeda connection? Who dropped Afghanistan from the headlines at the first whiff of this Iraqi snipe hunt? The United States press corps, that's who."

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:14 PM
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1. Tom Friedman says he was a little slow?
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 12:48 PM by The Backlash Cometh
Is that the same Tom Friedman who wrote an article favoring outsourcing?

Dang, if these conservatives can't pick up on a disaster until the Red Cross shows up, just what good are they?
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takebackourjobs Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:21 PM
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2. Friedman lost his credibility
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 12:21 PM by takebackourjobs
to such an extent that no one could take him seriously on any subject. I've seen him on a couple of the talk shows in the last week talking up the trickle-down outsourcing theories that will be his complete downfall. He is an imbecile, and will soon become irrelevant. btw, I think its a book he's touting. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:23 PM
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3. Remember that "Lexus & the Olive Tree" claptrap?
Smoke, mirrors, BS, and turtles all the way down...
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:46 PM
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8. Not "a article" favoring outsourcing, but one after another.
Thomas Friedman didn't just write one article favoring outsourcing.

He seems to write an article a week about how wonderful outsourcing is.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:46 PM
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4. Oh please...
All these retractions and self-flagellations seem just a bit disingenuous to me -- and curiously timed now that the melt-down of credibility is obvious to everyone. These talking heads are no stupider than any of us are (who don't even get paid to know what's going on).

They have no excuse for their sycophancy other than they aren't their own masters. The emperor had no clothes, and they followed suit.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:12 PM
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6. I think I agree...I think?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:49 PM
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5. yet because the people in u.s. and world
that saw at the time, and werent fooled spoke out the were called evil, terrorist, un american, unpatriot, unchristian..........

i think these people should go further in their embarrassment and shame
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:17 PM
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7. Kick n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:50 PM
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9. I agree with Eric Alterman.
I agree with Eric Alterman.

I never trusted Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld as people who could make Iraq into a democracy which respects human rights.

I never believed Colin Powells' UN presentation.

Bush seized power by arranging for legal voters in Florida to be labelled "suspected felons" so they couldn't vote.

No one should trust the Bush Administration.
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