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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:02 PM
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Reagan - "A man who singlehandedly changed the landscape of the world"
This was a lead-in line on the Philadelphia NBC affiliate 11 PM news.
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:06 PM
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1. ....hyperbole run amuck!!
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PfNJ Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:08 PM
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2. so did.....
Gengis Kahn.....
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:09 PM
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3. Not necessarily a compliment
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:10 PM
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4. Yeah. For the worse.

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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:20 PM
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9. Exactly
It's a half-truth, but still not completely false.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:29 PM
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10. His illegal war in Central America: thousands dead.
The number may never be known, but 500,000 is possible if one goes back to the 1954 overthrow of Arbenz in Guatemala. Count Honduras, El Salvador and Nicaragua and the numbers swell astronomically and satanically, thanks to CIA-BFEE black ops.


War Crimes and Double Standards

(of Ronald Reagan and the press)


by Robert Parry

iF magazine, May/ June 1999

... The United States invites the charge of hypocrisy when it accuses "enemy leaders" of war crimes, while it turns a blind eye to equally horrific slaughters committed by allies, sometimes guided and protected by the U.S. government.

With release of truth commission reports in several Central American countries - most recently Guatemala - there can no longer be any doubt about the historical reality.

In the 1980s, U.S.-backed forces committed widespread massacres, political murders and torture. Tens of thousands of civilians died. Many of the dead were children. Soldiers routinely raped women before executing them.

There can be no doubt, too, that President Reagan was an avid supporter of the implicated military forces, that he supplied them with weapons and that he actively sought to discredit human rights investigators and journalists who exposed the crimes.

It is also cleat that the massacres at El Mazote (pictured) and other villages across El Salvador, the destruction of more than 600 Indian communities in Guatemala, and the torture and "disappearances" of dissidents throughout the region were as horrible as what Slobadan Milosevic's Serb army has done in Kosovo.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ronald_Reagan/WarCrimes_Reagan_iF.html
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:12 PM
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5. He sure increased the number of the homeless
I'm of the belief that a very large part if not all of the homeless would love to have a warm bed to sleep in an a warm meal 3 times a day. What is sad is that I read a large percent of the homeless are Viet-Nam vets, and just vets in general. But at least we are saving the money that it was costing us. What a disgrace he was. Couldn't help myself, had to type that.
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:17 PM
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6. changed it and made it easier for evil to survive...
As I learn more and more about the foreign policy under Reagan, I get more and more disgusted. How can America allow such evil to occur... and then Reagan wins 49 states in 1984? What is wrong with this world. I feel as if I'm in a bad dream. Maybe this is purgatory, or one of the levels of hell. I almost feel like committing suicide to escape this madness. And then, next week, I got to put up with the idolatry of Reagan. I've seen people say, "Well Reagan wasn't evil like Hitler"... According to the policies, he might as well have been as evil as Hitler. At least Hitler was honest about what he wanted. Everybody knew where he stood. But Reagan... Jesus Christ!!! Reagan's popularity is sickening considering the atrocities he supported. There are almost too many to list... support of:

Saddam Hussein
Iran Contras
Nicaragua (the Latin American equivalent of Islamic terrorists)
Muhajadeen (and Osama bin Laden)
Liberia's brutal dictator

and this is just the tip of the iceberg...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:17 PM
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7. Destroyed any chance of ENERGY Independence.
Pruneface said: "The best way to solve the energy crisis is by repealing the 55-mph speed limit."

To suck up to Big Oil, the shoe-polished schmuck then cut funding to all the alternative ener4gy policies and de-regulated the auto industries, allowing them to get around the CAFE standards.

All weekend long, I've heard about how Carter was innefective. That's a load of NAZI bull. Carter had a plan to keep us free of the Saudis.

The Reagan (read: BFEE) plan was to suck up to them. George Bush, especially sucked up to ARAMCO and the bin Laden Group.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:31 PM
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11. And for pure symbolism
one of his first acts was to remove the solar panels Carter had put on the White House.

From actions like this came our war in Iraq.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:42 PM
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13. And THAT's how history will judge him.
Reagan's symbolic acts, basic incompetence and intentional criminality have forged a divided and troubled nation and war-torn world. Soon, when the oil runs out, there's be anarchy like straight out of Mad Max. Oh well. Things may go haywire in so many other ways before then. The Geritol-guzzling son of the Mafia bankrupted the nation, penured the middle class and destroyed the progress of the New Deal and Great Society in order to benefit his rich patrons. Despite all the great stuff spewing out of the TV, radio, newspapers and starting Monday TIME and Newsweek and USN&WR -- objective historians in the coming centuries will remember the guy as a particularly nasty stooge who set the stage for the especially evil Bush Organized Crime Family. Now THERE's a name that's synonymous with oil profits. Drug profits. War profits...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:02 AM
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15. Ahem, Octafish!
Our national security has been compromised for 35 years because we've let Republican Big Oil interests take precedence over US interests in our energy policy.

It ought to be so damn clear that the folks who brought us "Morning in America" has also delivered "Evening in America"....and they are in no hurry to address the situation now.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 08:27 AM
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16. Their apparently illogical policies may have a rationale...
... and that is to rid the planet of most of the population. Once the poor and weak are weeded out, they'll enslave the rest. There is plenty of evidence for this: war on the innocent and poor, economic policies that benefit the well-to-do, and a total disregard for what the future could be -- if only they gave a damn.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:18 PM
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8. Greatest President Ever!
A human man-god! A towering figure in a barren American landscape! Greater than FDR! Bigger 'n badder than Lincoln! A swaggering he-man who slew the commies and pinkos and welfare queens! Whadda dood!

It's all so over the top it's like parody. And as I remember the 1980's, the press wasn't fawning all over Mr. He-Man. What we're seeing now is how the corporate whore press would have behaved had they been allowed to run amok and dominate our news as they do now.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:33 PM
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12. Why should I invest any energy in acknowledging inaccuracy? n/t
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:05 PM
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14. Reagan/Greneda ========> Bush/Iraq
Reagan's phony invasion for the sake of a photo op and political lift set the stage for Bush's phony invasion for the sake of oil and a political lift.
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