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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:50 PM
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Bush on Iraq: "the enemy didn't lay down its arms like we hoped"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5146260/

Bush: “I think it's fair to say that, you know, that the enemy didn't lay down its arms like we had hoped.”

Brokaw: “And you were not greeted as liberators like Vice President Cheney said that you would be.”

Bush: “Well, I think we've been -- let me just -- I think we've been thanked by the people of Iraq. And I think you'll hear more of that from people like Prime Minister Alawi and the foreign minister, who both have repeatedly, ‘Thank you for what you've done, and by the way, help us.’

“It's not easy work to take a country from tyranny to a free society. And we'd been there a little over a year. And it's-- you might recall if you're looking for parallels in World War II, it took about four years to get an active reconstruction effort going.

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:53 PM
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1. Who said Brokaw
was looking for parallels to WWII????
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:53 PM
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2. like the emblem of colonial massachusetts
An Indian with a words over his head that say "come help us"

I think the chimp is flashing back on his freshman US History course chapter one: England colonizes the New World

OK, so his Iraqui cronies loooooove him. So what.

OH, and by the way, it didn't take four years you jackass: read up on the Marshall Plan and the activities in Japan during the year after the peace treaty.

What a damn maroon...
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:03 PM
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7. It is amazingly ignorant of him
and amazing that they let him speak freely.
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IggleDoer Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:54 PM
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3. Chalabi thanked us
before he became doo-doo
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PfNJ Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:59 PM
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4. what, no more invitations to.....
"Bring It On", what's the matter Boy George, you going soft on us now? But at least we found their weapons of mass destr.....oh, wait.....
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:00 PM
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5. this so-called "interview" is a real vomit-inducer
Brokaw has nothing but softballs to lob at Shrub.

It's a disgusting display of propaganda at work.

The helicopter in the background, the whole deal. It's pathetic.

It makes me embarrassed for my country.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:03 PM
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6. Because we all know Allawi represents the Iraqi people.
Not Sadr and Sistani and everyone else actually in Iraq.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:05 PM
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8. he`s a fuck`n c student
he drank his way thru his "schooling"..rhodes scholar or a c student..who do you want to figure out this country and world..bush can`t speak on his feet let alone figure anything out..clinton could get a blow job and conduct policy..this shit happened in less than 4 yrs....
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:08 PM
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9. Did any of you see this interview or read it in its entirety?
Brokaw made mince meat of the Shrub. He contradicted everything he said & Shrub looked like a complete nincompoop.

I enjoyed it immensely.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:09 PM
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10. heh (evil snicker).
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 11:11 PM by cliss
I just love how he starts to tell the truth, and then he corrects himself and lies. "I think we've been thanked by the people of Iraq". He's Right! He's been thanked by Chalabi (thanks for the money, sucker). Of course, he's the enemy now so never mind.

Who else? Well, there's the Iraqi Governing Council. They've thanked Bush. If they can stay alive until tomorrow, that is. They're grateful.

And who else? OH yes, silly me. I forgot New hand-picked Mr. Allawi. He'll be thanking Bush.

Did I forget anyone?

PS I just remembered one time he was asked about the insurgents when things were getting really bad in Iraq. When asked about them, Bush said, "there are still a few Ira-- I mean, many Saddam loyalists who are fighting the battle".

I loved it because he told the truth: it was thousands of angry Iraqis.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:09 PM
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11. you
stupid fucking idiot.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:18 PM
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12. What a moron...............
take a look at this:

Bush:Another similarity is that there are people who have got this kind of distorted sense of the world, trying to impose their will. Fascism on the one hand, and fanaticism on the other. But I also made it clear, this is a different kind of war. And it's a different kind of war, because you're right. In World War II, there was armies and invasions and pill boxes overlooking, you know, the beaches of Normandy.


Pretty close to unintelligible............I think I know what he means....maybe.........
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:19 PM
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13. No one is looking for parallels to WWII...

Except Shrub.

This man is so transparent. It's not even a challenge.

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:31 PM
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14. Damn. I hate that smirking bastard.
Brokaw deserves a lot of credit for asking Dim Son some pretty hard questions.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:35 PM
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15. how's weisberg going to cope with all the Bushisms
from the last few days?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:42 PM
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16. Uhm, what arms???!!!
oooooooohhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm.................. oooooooohhhhhhhhhmmmmmm.............
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:03 AM
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17. On his neocon mission to pluck out and replace governments
“But it also means installing governments that don't necessarily look like America. They won't look like America, but that our government that has embraced the habits of freedom in places like Afghanistan and in Iraq, which will in turn, strengthen places like Pakistan and Turkey.”

“These are vital missions, Tom. Because they're-- these are the countries that represent the beginnings of massive change in the greater Middle East. Now, I agree. Some won't think that's possible. I do. But had we taken that tack, by the way, that's, you know, a country can't be a democratic country after World War II, it's very conceivable that Japan would not have been our close ally today. Other words, there were some cynics and pessimists that said well, Japan can't possibly be a free society because of the nature of the people.

*****
How arrogant and imperialistic to see the US as *installing governments*.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:29 AM
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20. Wow. Did he actually say this?
He actually said the words 'install governments'? Sorry, I got rid of my TV because I can't watch Bush any more. He just has that effect on me.

So let's look at the word 'install'. Bush makes it sound like you pull out your old dishwasher, and 'install' a new one. Right? Easy. Or so he thinks.

God damn, I just can't believe he would say something like this. Doesn't he hear what he's saying. And he's saying GOVERNMENTS, not just one like Iraq and Afghanistan. He means LOTS OF THEM.

This is exactly the kind of bullshit the PNAC'ers have been spouting. And exactly the kind of thing our country is NOT about.

~~fume~~~

Oh, there's more. "They won't look like America". What exactly does he mean here? Meaning, there won't be an American Emperor, like L. Paul Bremer, or will it be a puppet government? With tan faces?

Or does he mean that 'they won't look like America' because it might be a dictatorship?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:46 AM
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21. It's this "Straw Man" crap of his that drives me insane.
...it's very conceivable that Japan would not have been our close ally today. Other words, there were some cynics and pessimists that said well, Japan can't possibly be a free society because of the nature of the people.

Who were these "cynics and pessimists", exactly? He pull this tired technique as a punt every chance he gets.

What he's saying in that paragraph is exactly like his other favorite straw man argument, the one that goes something like "there are cynics and pessimists who don't think brown people can be free."

Watch for this, all election-season long. These are the kinds of arguments and "debate" techniques that grow stale upon repetition, and he's going to dig himself into a hole if he keeps relying on them.
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jmags Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:15 AM
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18. It's still almost too much to believe that this man actually became
President.

It's harder to believe that there are still some intelligent Republicans, and there are some, that cannot admit to themselves that this guy has been such an incredible failure.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:18 AM
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19. Correction: The FratBoy Fuhrer was NEVER elected president...
...he was instead SELECTED by the U. S. Supreme Court. Our last LEGALLY elected President was Al Gore.

I thought everyone knew that.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 06:31 AM
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22. He makes Chauncey Gardner sound positively brilliant.
He simply can't put together two coherent sentences. Even when he spews out a two word sentence, he's already forgotten what he said when he starts on the next sentence.

I don't think it's fair to blame a man like this for anything. He's not capable of doing anything. He's basically a vegetable.
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