A sick video. . .this is the type of stuff Bill Cosby was talking about

[wndycty]

http://hot97.com/av/video/exclusives/slapfest-day8.asx

Just so you know Emmis is the radio company that owns the MANCOW SHOW are you surprised.

For those of you who don't want to watch its a hip hop station (HOT97) that is having a contest for concert tickets and $1,000. To win the money and tickets two women have to smack each other. This is the type of shit Cosby was talking about. As a hip hop fan and a Black man I hang my head in shame.

If you would like to let the powers of EMMIS know how you feel have at it.

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[GreenPartyVoter]

1. What is wrong with people? Smacking each other to win something?

Beyond sad.

[Taylor Mason Powell]

51. Not as bad as eating worms to win $50,000...

Or whatever. Even I'd eat worms for 50k.

And hey, maybe if you're the type of person who would engage in a smacking contest to win something, then you're the type of person who deserves a good smack!!

See how the universe rights itself?

[Shadowen]

52. Debateable.

nt

[PROGRESSIVE1]

2. EMMIS is owned by a wealthy Democrat in Indiana.

I'll try to find his name.

Also, MANCOW is a WHITE-WING David Duke Style Bigot.

Seig Heil to him! :puke:

Yes, I agree with Bill Cosby, this stuff is OVER THE LINE!!!

[Servo300]

3. Isn't Mancow

a sort of no-talent Howard Stern wannabe?

[wndycty]

4. One that is one Democrat we can do without. . .

:kick:

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. Jerry Springer-like?

[patrice]

8. Hey, I like Jerry Springer.

DON'T like his show, but I like his politics.

[iconoclastic cat]

12. Mancow is a Libertarian

Hello from a fellow Chicago denizen!

[wndycty]

33. And a bigot. . .

. . .trust me I have experienced it first hand.

[Nlighten1]

42. Mancow is a moran

I'm beginning to think it is synonymous with Libertarian.

[Taylor Mason Powell]

47. Jeff Smulyan

And he's a distant cousin of mine. So be nice. :-)

[KissMyAsscroft]

6. There are equally dumb promotions that white people do...

Talk radio is a sewer...doesn't matter the race.

[noiretextatique]

7. thanks...as a black woman, i don't feel the least bit of shame

there is no way on earth i am going to feel bad about every stupid thing a black person does. i understand what cosby meant, but i am sick of the notion that we aren't as human (that includes being as stupid) as everyone else. not all black people will ever adopt or live up to cosby's middle-class expectations.
but i will send an email.

[patrice]

9. Thank you for this insight.

I really appreciate it, because your perspective is something I rarely encounter.

I personally don't think that what Bill Cosby, or anyone parallel with him on the "white" side of this issue, said means that other people should be guilty for, or feel bad about, everything any another member of their ethnic group does. I, for example, though I am horrified by the religious hypocrisy of the "right wing", do not feel guilty about them. I am concerned about being identified with them though, because I am white.

Maybe what Cosby and others are calling for is "no fear" when it comes to the truth of what we feel and think about those with whom we share some kind of identity.

[noiretextatique]

13. what i hear is "black pathology"

and while i know cosby is a lot more liberal and sophistocated than some who love this theory on the right, his version still sounds a lot like it. unlike some on the right, i trust that cosby understands that this theory is really only a part of the issue of poverty and racism in america.
and the other truth: cosby doesn't really share an idenitity with the people he was talking about, and neither did his NAACP audience...they share only skin color. the gap between black haves and have nots, are not just economic in nature, they are cultural as well.

[patrice]

24. It appears to me, on an average, the whole thing is more about

social economic class, than it is about race. I am just as self-conscious around wealthy people of color as I am around rich white people, because I know the differences in our values, and hence, feel that my existence has no justification in their eyes.

There are exceptions to the class characteristics of course, i.e. poor whites who have the political values of the wealthy, which can include things like bigotry, which poor whites may experience as racism, while wealthy bigotry may be more of a purely class issue.

[noiretextatique]

37. exactly...that's why cosby's comments to the NAACP audience

were not meant for the people in that audience. they could amen and shake their heads in agreement because he wasn't talking about them or their children. it is about class, and i understand what you mean about having to justify your existence.

[IranianDemocrat]

14. Speaking propper English is a "middle class expectation?"

Come on...

[noiretextatique]

16. yes, it is...not everybody speaks "proper english"

not even white people, and btw, this entire "debate" tends to make that ASSumption. you don't have to speak "proper english" to prosper in america: ASK YOUR PRESIDENT about that :eyes:

[IranianDemocrat]

19. Uhh yes you do...

You think that when a kid gets a job interview in white corporate America he's going to get the job by walking into the room saying "sup homie"

[DrWeird]

21. I'd sooner give a job to a kid who says "sup hommie"

Than a guy who spells "proper" with three p's.

[noiretextatique]

36. for god's sake...you don't need to speak like a harvard grad

to get a job in a mailroom, even in "white corporate america', which is not the only employer in the country, btw. in fact, most people work for small business or government. i am working for a government agency right now, and trust me...not everyone here speaks standard english. not all the white folks, not all the black folks, and not all the asian folks.

[noiretextatique]

38. and explain why GEORGE BUSH doesn't need to speak "proper english"

while you're at it. can't wait to hear this response :eyes:

[iconoclastic cat]

15. Don't worry---any person who could look at those dolts and generalize to

all African-Americans wouldn't be a member on this board anyway. Well, unless we have some people who have not figured out that stereotypes, whether they are new or old, are useless and harmful.

[wndycty]

23. Thats not the point. . .

. . .I am told the SMACKFEST is a regular occurance on HOT97, now given the fact that it is an HIP HOP station who do you think is listening to it? Kids, the same kids who will have this who SMACKFEST as acceptable behavior reinforced in their mind.

[iconoclastic cat]

29. I gotcha. I was just injecting a bit of levity.

No offense meant.

[noiretextatique]

39. do you really believe this?

i was exposed to a lot of things when growing up in
"the ghetto" that i didn't consider acceptable behavior...likr drug use. it depends on the parents and what kind of values they teach their kids.

[okieinpain]

35. Wow, how about just living up to human expectations

[noiretextatique]

40. WHICH "human expectations" are those?

perhaps you can tell gw bush & company about them too. thanks.

[Wickerman]

10. White, Black, Brown, what have you

why on earth would anyone allow themselves to be degraded like that? I know, I know, 1K is still 1K - sorry, I think its a shame

[Renew Deal]

20. They'll need the $1000 to fix all their loose teeth.

Those people weren't playing around.

[Wickerman]

27. LOL

I wonder what a fractured eye socket costs to patch up?

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[Renew Deal]

31. I guess somebody wasn't happy with me?

Too bad I missed it.

[hippiegranny]

11. i always thought you were a woman, wndy

i'm not sure why, but i did!

[noiretextatique]

17. me too...

:D eom

[wndycty]

25. No idea why. . .

. . .hmmmm.

[hippiegranny]

32. probably because you are sensitive

hmmm?

[wndycty]

34. Awww. . .

. . .I am blushing. Well I am a Gemini, I am a red blooded bone headed American male, but also a sensitive man of the new millennium.

[Renew Deal]

18. Hot 97 is a NY city station.

It is unfortunate.= that they are behaving this way.

[DrWeird]

22. Yeah, you never hear of anything obscene...

on white radio stations.

:eyes:

[wndycty]

30. Well you do but. . .

. . .the impact is a lot different in the white community. African Americans have limited media options so the impact is much greater.

[noiretextatique]

41. i agree with you about this

which is why i sent an email.

[wndycty]

43. Thanks for doing it. . .

. . .like I said, it is my understanding that this SMACKFEST is a regular thing.

[MsUnderstood]

26. Do you have text or link

To the speech Bill Cosby gave? I keep hearing interpretations of it but I'd like to know what he said.

[hiphopnation]

44. How does this speak for the entire black community?

They want to act like asses, let them. Does it mean every black woman in the world will act that way.

Methinks you know the answer to that.

edit: content

[wndycty]

45. This does not speak for the entire Black community. . .

. . .but you have to understand that this SMACKFEST is a popular feature on HOT97 (one of the top and influential HIP HOP stations in the country) so there are tons of kids everyday who hear this crap and then believe it to be acceptable. Its not speaking for anybody but it sure can influence a ton of people.

[hiphopnation]

46. But there are tons of kids who listen to hardcore gangsta

rap, too. There are tons of kids who grow up in crack houses and witness gang shootings and drug deals. What of them?

To me this is an issue of picking your mountain tops and Smackfest, IMHO, seems to be a relatively small one.

[wndycty]

50. Thanks for your perspective. . .we will just agree to disagreee

:kick:

[AngryAmish]

48. I have one thing to say

CATFIGHT!

[ikojo]

49. FYI: Emmis means truth in Yiddish

Sad isn't it. This is the same outfit that owns KSHE 94.7 in St Louis.

People used to say KSHE stood for..

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