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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:15 PM
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Reagan White House email - declassified for your reading pleasure
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 10:57 PM by Q
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv /


MSG FROM: NSOLN --CPUA TO: NSWGH --CPUA 04/21/86 10:03:55 To: NSWGH --CPUA

*** Reply to note of 04/21/86 12:57

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NOTE FROM: OLIVER NORTH

Subject: Special Mtg: Central America Will, please pass to Don: This weekend's trip to Honduras and El Salvador was the most depressing venture in my four years of working the Centam issue. There is great anxiety that the Congress will not act in time to stave off a major defeat for the resistance. This sense exists in the Govts. of Honduras and El Salvador but most alarmingly is now evident in the resistance itself. The lack of a reliable source of resupply has not only affected combat operations, it is now beginning to affect the political viabllity of the UNO leadership. Bermudez, in front of the Southern Front commander, El Negro Chammoro questioned the need for UNO and the drain of scarce resources to support the Atlantic and Southern fronts. While he committed to send in 6-8000 troops in the next few days, he openly admitted in front of Bustillio that they wd have to come back out in 15-20 days if there is no resupply.

As known, their most pressing need is for anti-air, but other things are now running short as well. The entire force is back to 1 meal per day and no more boots, uniforms, packs, ponchos or weapons are available for tbe new recruits. All new trainees will be turned away effective today. All hospitalization for WIAs will cease at the end of the week. Troops returning to Nicaragua this week will carry only70-100 rounds of ammo instead of the 500 they had been carrying. No new radio batteries are available so there is no way to pass commands or intelligence.

Tbe picture is, in short, very dismal unless a new source of "bridge" funding can be identified. While we should not raise specific sources with Fred et al, we need to explore this problem urgently or there won't be a force to help when the Congress finally acts. Warm regards, North

MSG FROM: NSRCM --CPUA TO: NSJMP --CPUA 11/07/86 20:30:32 To: NSJMP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

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NOTE FROM: ROBERT MCFARLANE SUBJECT: Current Events Having been out of town for two days and maintaining the no comment line, I returned today to find that Don Regan has backgrounded the weeklies and laid the entire problem at my feet; my idea, my management, a strict arms for hostages deal, no larger agenda in mind, etc. I was told this not by a journalist but by my closest friend who had been getting calls all day to the effect that "Bud is being hung out to dry by Don Regan." I still have not commented to anyone.

But I must tell you that if this is true, I will be quite mad. This will be the second lie Don Regan has sowed against my character and I won't stand for it.

It might be useful to review just what the truth is.

You will recall that when the Israelis first approached us in June '85, I presented the idea of engaging in a dialogue with the Iranians--no mention at all of any arms exchanges at all--and he approved it.

We then heard nothing until August when the Israelis introduced the requirement for TOWs. I told Kimche no.

They went ahead on their own but then asked that we replace the TOWS and after checking with the President, we agreed. Weir was released as a consequence of their action.

My next involvement was to go to London where I presented our willingness to open a political dialogue but that we could not participate in an arms transfer for hostages. Gorbanifar ranted and raved but we did not change our position.

I returned to the States and debriefed the President (with Cap present, and Regan) that we had taken the position of being open to a political dialogue once our hostages were released but not before and ruled out an arms transfer. I also said that Gorbanifar was not to be trusted and recomended that we no longer carry on business with him. You were present John. I then left the government.

Some dialogue must have continued with Gorbanifar between New Year's and April, notwithstanding my recommendation. In April you contacted me to go to Iran to open the political dialogue. I did so. Once there, faced with bad faith on their part (not having released our people and without meetings with the decision makers) I aborted the mission. Ollie can verify all this.

Upon my return, I debriefed the trip and once more recommended against carrying on the arms connection but waiting them out on the political dialogue.

Now this is a far cry from the way Regan is supposed to be reporting it John. I have supported the idea of the political dialogue but time and again, have registered my opposition to the arms deal. You know that.

If any of these reports of what Regan is saying are true--they are supposed to be in Time and Newsweek on Monday--it will be cause for a libel suit by me.

I am perfectly willing to carry on the no comment approach; that seems to me to best serve the hope of preserving the position of Rafsanjani et al. But I won't tolerate lies from Don Regan. John, it might be useful for you to try to find out from Don or by asking the mags directly, just what are they running with. I have made no comment (other than the "fanciful and fictitious" line in my Cleveland Q&A) and will not.

Take care ) Current Events

FROM: NSWRP --CPUA TO: NSPBT --CPUA 02/28/86 19:17:38 To: NSJMP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER NSDRF --CPUA DONALD FORTIER

NOTE FROM: BOB PEARSON Subject: Saudi arms From Stark.

*** Forwarding note from NSJRS --CPUA 02/28/86 19:02 *** To: NSRBM --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER NSWRP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER NSRBM --CPUA DONALD FORTIER NSWRP --CPUA DONALD FORTIER NOTE FROM: JAMES R. STARK

SUBJECT: Saudi arms Lynn Sachs is checking with Lugar's staff on the basis of his optimistic assessment. Hope to have an answer shortly. Again, I suspect Lugar made a seat of the pants judgement. If he had taken a head count, he would have gone to Dole at some point, and he obviously did not. On the idea of notifying the whole package, then dropping MSIP, ALQ-171, and Blackhawks, I am pessimistic because: - the pressure wd be to drop out the missiles. - whatever was dropped out would be next to impossible to notify later this year. - it makes the President look weak and would be interpreted exactly that way in the Mideast. Have checked with Dick Murphy who also agrees we should not withdraw part of the package for the above reasons. cc: NSJC --CPUA NSRKS --CPUA NSLSS --CPUA cc: NSJRS --CPUA NSPBT --CPUA NSKKS --CPUA

FROM: NSJMP --CPUA TO: NSHRT --CPUA 06/26/86 15:57:17 To: NSRBM --CPUA ROD MCDANIEL

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NOTE FROM: JOHN POINDEXTER SUBJECT: Iraq Financial Situation Al Haig yesterday expressed his concerns with Iraq's ability to hang on in the war. He agrees with our impartiality policy, but feels as we do that we can not permit Iraq to fall. He wondered if there was anyway we could help their financial situation through the multi-laterals. Let's take a look at that.

cc: NSHRT --CPUA HOWARD TEICHER NSPWR --CPUA PETER RODMAN NSDBR --CPUA NSSID --CPUA STEVE DANZANSKY NSPBT --CPUA PAUL THOMPSON


MSG FROM: NSOLN --CPUA TO: NSJMP --CPUA 06/03/86 11:42:43 To: NSJMP --CPUA

*** Reply to note of 05/31/86 10:21

 -- TOP SECRET --

NOTE FROM: TRIP XXXX Subject: HOSTAGES Fully agree that if the current effort fails to achieve release then such a mission should be considered. You will recall that we have not had much sucess with this kind of endeavor in the past, however. After CIA took so long to organize and then botched the Kilburn effort. Copp undertook to see what could be done thru one of the earlier DEA developed Druze contacts. Dick has been working with Nir on this and now has three people in Beirut and a 40 man Druze force working "for" us. Dick rates the possibility of success on this operation as 30%, but that's better than nothing.

In regard to U.S. military rescue ops, JCS has steadfastly refused to go beyond the initial thinking stage unless we can develop some hard intelligence on their whereabouts. We already have one ISA officer in Beirut but no effort has been made to insert personnel since we withdrew the military mission to the LAF?. If we are really serious, we should start by getting CIA to put a full time analyst on the HLTF and then organizing a planning cell- preferably not in the pentagon, but at CIA, to put the operation together. Dick, who has been in Beirut, and who organized the second Hcan? mission, is convinced that such an operation could indeed be conducted. My concern in this regard is that JCS wd insist on using most of the tier 2 and 3 forces in such an undertaking. If you want me to task this thru the OSG we will do so, but urge that we start by you having Casey staff the HLTF as directed.
 

To: NSPSS --CPUA 12/21/87 18:52:48

*** Reply to note of 12/21/87 14:48

NOTE FROM: Colin L. Powell

Subject: General Powell's Schedule CONFIDENTIAL
Thanks for your concerns. I feel quite safe on post and in quarters. I will vary the route; that's easy to do because there are multiple routes off Ft yer. My days in Frankfurt made me quite security conscious. I feel safe on post because I doubt terrorists would risk targetting the house. They don't have a good opportunity to recon it and the constant MP patrolling makes it silly for them to do so. My vulnerability is just after leaving post in the morning.) It's too hard to vary the time much in the morning but varying the route covers that threat. I had an alarmed house when I lived at Ft McNair earlier this year. Pain in the neck. Scared hell out of the family initially and then became amusing when the MPs assaulted the house every time the alarm misfired.


CHRONOLOGY

1982
- The National Security Council (NSC) staff at the White House acquires a prototype electronic mail system, from IBM, called the Professional Office System (PROFs).

April 1985
- The PROFs e-mail system becomes fully operational within the NSC, including not only the full staff, but also home terminals for the National Security Adviser, Robert "Bud" McFarlane, and his deputy, Admiral John M. Poindexter.

November 1986
- The remainder of the White House comes on line with electronic mail, at first with the PROFs system, and later (by the end of the 1980s) through a variety of systems including VAX A-1 ("All in One"), and ccmail.

November 22-25, 1986
- John Poindexter and Oliver North electronically shred more than 5000 e-mail notes in the memory banks of their computer systems, as the Iran-contra scandal breaks.

November 28, 1986
- Career staff at the White House Communications Agency order the November backup tapes of the e-mail system to be saved instead of recycled as usual. Subsequently, investigators from the FBI and the Tower Commission use the backup takes to reconstruct the Iran-contra scandal.

February 26, 1987
- The Tower Commission issues its report on Iran-contra, reprinting hundreds of PROFs notes exchanged by McFarlane, Poindexter and North.

January 19, 1989
- On the last day of the Reagan presidency, the National Security Archive files a series of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests together with a lawsuit against President Ronald Reagan, to prevent the imminent erasure of the White House electronic mail backup tapes. At 6:10 pm, on the eve of George Bush's inauguration, U.S. District Judge Barrington D. Parker issues a Temporary Restraining Order, prohibiting the destruction of the backup tapes to the PROFs system.

September 15, 1989
- U.S. District Judge Charles B. Richey rules that the National Security Archive and its co-plaintiffs, including the American Historical Association (AHA) and the American Library Association (ALA), have standing to sue President Bush, in order to force him to comply with the retention requirements of various records acts which potentially cover the White House e-mail.

January 25, 1991
- After a year-and-a-half of legal procedural wrangling, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upholds Judge Richey's ruling on standing, denying the Bush administration's attempts to have the case dismissed.

November 20, 1992
- On request from the plaintiffs, Judge Richey adds the White House e-mail from the lame-duck Bush administration to the case, issuing a restraining order preventing the Bush White House from destroying its own backup computer records.

January 6, 1993
- Judge Richey rules that computer tapes containing copies of e-mail messages by Reagan and Bush White House staff must be preserved like other government records, because the electronic versions are not simply duplicates of paper printouts, but contain additional information beyond the paper copies.

January 11 and 14, 1993
- Judge Richey issues specific court orders requiring that the Bush White House preserve its computer records. In press interviews, Judge Richey says that despite his orders, he believes that the Bush administration is planning to destroy its e-mail files.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:20 PM
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1. Interesting Iraq angle:
OM: NSJMP --CPUA TO: NSHRT --CPUA 06/26/86 15:57:17 To: NSRBM --CPUA ROD MCDANIEL

 -- SECRET --

NOTE FROM: JOHN POINDEXTER SUBJECT: Iraq Financial Situation Al Haig yesterday expressed his concerns with Iraq's ability to hang on in the war. He agrees with our impartiality policy, but feels as we do that we can not permit Iraq to fall. He wondered if there was anyway we could help their financial situation through the multi-laterals. Let's take a look at that.

cc: NSHRT --CPUA HOWARD TEICHER NSPWR --CPUA PETER RODMAN NSDBR --CPUA NSSID --CPUA STEVE DANZANSKY NSPBT --CPUA PAUL THOMPSON
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:26 PM
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2. I used to know the guy that installed that email system...
...we talked a while later and what North and the rest of the White House didn't realize was that the system archived EVERY single email, coming and going.

Oops.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:26 PM
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3. Where'd you find this stuff?
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 10:27 PM by Hardhead
Very interesting.

Is this from the congressional report?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:29 PM
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4. You'll find this and much more at...
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/

- Great reading and a truthful insight into history.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:33 PM
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5. Whoa...
I've died and gone to heaven. What a site.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:38 PM
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6. It will take a long time to get through their archives...
...but it's well worth it for history buffs and those who want to know about the dark side of 'their' government'.

- Another great site: fas.org
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:56 PM
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10. Thanks, Q
Ya know something? You are pretty much correct, most of the time. Keep it up. We may just save our sorry asses yet.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 07:26 AM
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11. Morning BeFree...
- Have you noticed that most (many) Americans still know little (or nothing) about Iran/Contra or the Reagan/Bush administration's support of Saddam and iraq?

- It's a sure sign that a POLITICAL PARTY has control or great influence over the media when stories regarding NATIONAL SECURITY and TREASON are successfully hidden from the public.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:49 AM
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12. Morning, Q
It is a travesty that the facts are being hidden.

It is the same with 9/11.

Somehow, someway, the truths must be revealed. Our only hope at this point is that Kerry is willing and able to serve up a big plate of the truth when he is elected.

I've read, here and there, that JK was a main reason Iran/Contra ever got the attention it did. If that is so, it portends well for our future, eh?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 11:23 AM
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14. Or about Poppy Bush's role in Iran/Contra?
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 11:28 AM by Caliphoto
I do seem to remember, even though Bush was just a VP, that he was reported to be at a certain hotel meeting working on the arms for hostages deal. There was a private pilot, mercenary type, that crashed.. he had a wierd name.. like Eugene Hussenfus.. and I believe he was the guy that put it all together. I'm just getting random bits coming through in my memory of all this.. at the time, I knew every detail. George H.W. Bush was ass-deep in all this... he was the go-to guy. They all belonged in prison, and Reagan should have been impeached. Instead.. the fuckers are back, now running things for little George Bush (and probably Poppy, too). Reagan as Saint? I think not!

But Clinton got a blow job. Much worse, right?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:41 PM
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7. It has to be said...
...can you imagine the reaction of the Republicans if Clinton or any Dem president had been discovered SELLING WEAPONS TO TERRORIST STATES? What is this double-standard that allows GOP administrations to get away with treason?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 11:26 AM
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15. How about the ignored fact that GWB ciphoned money for Iraq?
You know.. that was reported last month.. that Bush took money from the war on Afghanistan, and used it to get the Iraq War effort going! That is pretty damn illegal!! But.. the media slept through that one. If we had a balanced government, instead of one party ruling everything, there would have been a special prosecutor. Oh wait.. didn't Bush do away with special prosecutors?
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:44 PM
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8. Where did you get these?
Thanks for posting. I'd love a link.

Their manipulation and illegal actions started before Reagan TOOK office in 1981. These are evil people who would arrange for hostages to be kept longer in order to get in office.

Remember the other hostage "deal" from 1980.

October Surprise by Gary Sick

"In 1980, William Casey, then campaign manager of the Reagan-Bush ticket, without the knowledge or approval of the legitimate government (Carter Administration and Congress), arranged a deal with the Iranian government that in return for military equipment, the Iranians would not release the 52 American hostages until Ronald Reagan was safely inaugurated."

Editorial Reviews
From Library Journal


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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:52 PM
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9. See post #6
...for the link.

- Thanks for your interest. These and other Reagan WH emails were acquired by the 'National Security Archives' through FOIA.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 11:13 AM
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13. Isn't George Bush trying to appoint some neo-con
to be in charge of the national security archives?

Or has he already?

I heard a few months ago that there was going to be a change and that the suggested person will be a goon.

Isn't he also trying to change some law so that he will be in charge of whether or not docs from his father's admin are ever declassified?

I am sorry this is so vague, probably irresponsible to post without knowing the details, but I am following 9/11 and Iraq (have 104 folders on Iraq) and labor, medicare and environ. issues the most closely and these are two snippets I remember hearing a few months back.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 11:27 AM
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16. His inner circle is FILTHY with those guys..
I can't remember which one you're referring to.. it's hard to keep up with the crime family in D.C.
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