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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:12 PM
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when bush comes for MY son.....he'll have a problem
i just know that he plans a draft for his death cult, and it's coming soon. kerry may even approve of it, lots of congressmen and senators will, others won't.

but i am here to tell you what. i ain't giving up my son who is just now becoming a 21 year old man to these maniacs. i don't know exactly what i'll do, but i will guarantee that i will do something, anything, to keep their filthy murdering torturing hands off my own son.

me, and MILLIONS of others like me, will PREVENT this from happening, even if we all go to prison together. recruiters have come TO MY FRONT DOOR trying to talk to him. i slammed the door in their faces. it frightened the fuck out of me too, because i can see it in my head, the same thing happening: army personnel coming to get my son, to send him off to bush's 'central front' in the war on terror, iraq.

men in uniforms, maybe army, maybe marines, maybe policemen, or military policemen, knocking on my fucking door, demanding my son.

....................................................

no.....fucking..........way
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:15 PM
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:16 PM
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2. Enjoy your short stay here, newbie.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:17 PM
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3. Interesting point of view
But this would be a different set of circumanstances it seems to me.

I mean how is what happened at Waco similar to this person's desire not to see their children get drafted?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:34 PM
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11. Is their ANY connection between your post and the original subject?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:55 PM
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20. I assume that you have signed up!!
Which branch of the service are you in?

How was Iraq? Oil flowing much yet?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:55 PM
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21. The ZombieToBe is more like it....
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:19 PM
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4. My sons are 22 and 18 and I am worried.
Mexico is only 10 miles away though.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:40 PM
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16. My grandchildren are 25, 24, 23, 22, 18, & 16: all of them cannon fodder
for the neocon's war agenda for the next thousand years according to Rummy.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:51 PM
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18. Did Rummy REALLY mention 1,000 years?
Not that I would find it in the LEAST surprising, but have you got a link?
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:35 PM
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30. Say what?
reminiscent of Adolph and his 1,000 year Reich.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:39 PM
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33. Only if he actually said it. I tried to find it and couldn't.
I'm not going to say that means it's CERTAIN he DIDN'T say it.

But I need to see a link.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 06:54 PM
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41. Sorry, no link! Hope I have not disseminated bad info, but seem to
definitely recall Rummy having reputedly made reference to a thousand year war which startled me into recalling Churchill's "finest hour" reference and Hitler's thousand-year Reich. My apoligies to this board and to Rummy should I be wrong.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:28 PM
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28. I have 2 daughters
20 and 23. The younger has asthma and is legally deaf in one ear...she should be safe; however, our older one is healthy as can be and a journalist. I have told her she'd BEST be boning up on Spanish and the C.O. position. She told me that one of the major questions to be asked of C.O. candidates is "Would you kill to defend yourself"? I told her that for the first time in her life, I am sanctioning LYING...they will NOT get my children either! No how, No way! :mad:

Jenn
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:19 PM
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5. Canada looks better all the time
Know anybody up there? If they can't find him they can't take him.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:21 PM
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7. why should we run away? stand our ground en masse
there aren't enough prisons to put us all away.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:30 PM
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9. True
I'll join you when they try to take my nephew away.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:34 PM
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12. exactly, the whole family should surround the draftee & go to jail
to make the public point that the war will now end, says WE THE PEOPLE of the united states.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:06 PM
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25. Send him to Canada or Ireland...
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 05:06 PM by Tellurian
It's not worth doing what your thinking of doing and ruining lives.

just send him abroad till things are back to normal.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:00 PM
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24. FEMA REX 84
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Suspicious Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:10 PM
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27. ...
:scared:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:39 PM
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32. No, but they can find an undisclosed location .
I'm sure there are plenty all over this world.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:19 PM
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6. Make sure he has a valid passport.........
... a list of countries which don't have extradition treaties or status of forces agreements with the USA and cash money to buy an airplane ticket from Canada (don't use the passport to get there - little chip/barcode in new ones) to where ever. Good luck and BTW, I'm in the process of doing the same for my soon to be 18 year old granddaughter.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:29 PM
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8. you're not alone...
My sister and her husband have two sons, 19 and 22. My nephews are fine young men, one of them in his last year of university, the other just finished his freshman year.

My family isn't all that political. They're all Democrats, but for the most part, they vote and that's it. No working for campaigns, no campaign donations, not up in arms when Repukes win etc.

NOT ANY MORE. My sister REFUSES to allow her sons to be sent to Iraq to fight and die for George W. Bush and his greedy imperialistic schemes. What a transformation! She's marched against this war (and loved her first demo), donated to Kerry, written LTTE and involved her friends in Kerry's campaign. She took time off work last week to attend a Kerry rally here. My totally apolitical sister.

If you ask her why, her answer is the exact same as yours...they'll take her sons over her dead body. If they attempt to, she'll break any law, go to prison, riot in the streets...but they won't get them.

If they attempt another draft, I don't think her reaction will be uncommon.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:30 PM
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10. I'm with you 100 per cent
No way would I let them have my son or daughter, either, if I had one.

Never. Ever. Like you, I don't know what I'd do but there is no way I'd let my kid go into the service.


Cher
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:34 PM
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13. i have a way out
i can make it so i DONT have apposeable thumbs
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:36 PM
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14. Send him up here
I'll find a place for him.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:42 PM
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34. Hey there cannuck
I find I`m finding more respect and appreciation for your country every day- wish Amerika could be more like Canada- mind our own business, take a common since approach to drugs and health care, and fuck the militaristic bull shit. Hats off to you guys - you don`t realize how fortunate you are to have been born Canadian.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:47 PM
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37. Thanks. We like to think we're reasonable people
My wife and I just shake our heads at some of the things that conservatives do and say down there.
Makes me proud to be "a Soviet Canuckistan", as Pat Buchanan calls us.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:44 PM
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35. Call me crazy but
keep a tight watch on your borders -these insane fucks that are running the U.S. are liable to do anything.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:36 PM
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15. And it's not just going to be our sons. Our daughters will ALSO be...
...subject to the coming draft.

I'll be damned if I'm going to let them take my 19-year-old daughter anywhere. I've been in the military, and that is the VERY LAST place my daughter needs to be.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:49 PM
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17. That's what they do in Russia
Russian troops often sweep up boys in arcades and other youth hangouts and ship them into military service. Though the Soviet Union is gone, many police state tactics still remain in Russia.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:52 PM
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19. Canada is looking good this time of year
I have 3 years before I am forced into dying for Corporate America
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:55 PM
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22. If it makes you feel any better...
...recruitment is up so much here that there is a delay getting into boot camp due to a lack of space.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:57 PM
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23. I am with you all the way
I have two boys 18 and 15.............and they can't have them NO FUCKING WAY...........
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:08 PM
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26. I have an 18 year old son
I know that a draft is coming and am scared. I was issued a draft card in high school and there was a lottery my senior year that did not really count.

We will do our best to keep our son out of the draft also by any and all legal means.

I also have a 17 year old daughter and fear for her also. If there is a draft, both boys and girls may be subject to such draft.
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:32 PM
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29. My sons are 8 & 10
And I'm with you all the way.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:49 PM
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38. Psst....
May I call you "Psst"? My nephew, a staff sargent in the Army Reserves, is WAAAAY gung-ho about this war sh*t...he has 3 boys...12, 9, 5 and a daughter 2.5...let's see just how much he is "THE PATRIOT" (his moniker) when their times come...which I pray they don't...idiots, they're all idiots!

Jenn
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:37 AM
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44. Of course
You can call me "Psst". I wondered the same thing about all the "patriots" until I asked the hubby of a friend of mine. They have a son a year older than my oldest about how he's going to feel when there's a draft. His reply was "Sure send all the high school drop outs, a draft would be fine!"

As if that's how it works. Assuming his son doesn't "drop out", he thinks it won't be his kid. There's just no reasoning with them. Their sense of logic is mind boggling.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:36 PM
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31. For the first time
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 05:36 PM by tx.lib
I`m actually feeling happy that my son has a police record- maybe they won`t accept him.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:45 PM
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36. i have an 18 year old son
who is a sweet, gentle boy. you could not make a soldier out of him. he will be the fat kid in the bathroom from platoon. i am scared shitless.
he did drop out of high school, and i will not let him take his ged.
i'm there with ya mo. they are taking him over my dead body.
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:59 PM
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39. !what was that
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:22 AM
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45. amen the draft for this obscenity of global piracy will not happen
it physically, will not happen. i will personally prevent it, as will millions of others
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 06:07 PM
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40. I want to see the Bush Twins on the front line, guns in hand
right in the thick of the worst of it, drafted, with no maids to wash their clothes or wipe their behinds. Aren't the children supposed to pay for the sins of the father? He ran off from duty, let them do double-duty to pay for it, and KEEP YOUR BLOODY MUREDERING HANDS OFF MY DAUGHTER!! YEP, I'd also do jail time for protesting.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 07:15 PM
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42. I can't say exactly how I'd go about protecting my son from such a thing.
I am knee-deep in the shittiest, most powerless and oppressive period of my life.

I only know that, I would find a way.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:24 AM
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46. they will literally have to go through me.............n/t
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 07:24 PM
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43. The Clash said it best....
"When they kick at your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun

When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting on death row

You can crush us
You can bruise us
But you'll have to answer to
Oh, the guns of Brixton"

The Second Amendment isn't about duck hunting. So, Mopaul, how you gonna go? ;)
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:25 AM
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47. gonna go hard
gonna take a stand
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