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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:16 PM
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Ray Bradbury Blasts Michael Moore Over 'Fahrenheit' Title
What's wrong with this clown Bradbury? Doesn't he realize Moore's film might re-candle interest in his book?

And since when does he own the name Fahrenheit? Check how wrong he is:

>>In the interview with the Swedish paper, Bradbury reportedly predicted a dim forecast for "9/11" at the box office. "Who cares? Nobody will see his movie," Bradbury told the paper. "It is almost dead already. Never mind, nobody cares.<<

http://www.local6.com/entertainment/3390666/detail.html

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:17 PM
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1. deja vu
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:19 PM
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2. I never liked Bradbury's books anyway.
He's a lousy storyteller.:boring:
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stopthegop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:20 PM
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10. no he's not....
if you find his material boring you're reading the wrong genre
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:20 PM
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3. Well, he's entitled to his opinion
He is one of the greatest science fiction writers in history, so I don't think he's a clown. He may have difference of opinion with Moore.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:31 PM
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4. "Fahrenheit 451" was a brilliant book about fascists who burn books.
Bradbury should be honored that Michael Moore did a riff on his title to expose our current day fascists.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:32 PM
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5. He still should have asked
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:37 PM
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7. Moore probably considered it an homage to Bradbury
and he probably checked with his lawyer before using the title. Given Bradbury's response, it's just as well he didn't ask.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:36 PM
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6. The book is about liberals who censor for political correctness.
read again. Bradbury is a dumb freeper. I was disappointed too.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:39 PM
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8. Haven't read read it in years, but liberals don't burn books
And when he wrote it, there was no such thing as "polical correctness." Nice try.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:23 PM
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12. When did he write it?
The terminology "politically correct" came out of Maoist China.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 06:13 PM
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19. Politically correct came from right wing think tanks - nice try you.
To be able to be racists and chauvinists with impunity - a table turning on us.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 06:03 PM
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16. He sort of invented it. The book burning started out of a desire to
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 06:08 PM by robbedvoter
not offend anyone. It's Bradbury's POV, not mine. I missed it the first time around too. The book was inspired by Russia. Go to the other thread referenced here and read some of his interviews.
Actually, it's this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1719636

a sample:
. I’m wondering about your feelings about totalitarian strains within the United States.
Bradbury: There are none.
Couteau: You don’t feel there are any?
Bradbury: No. Of course not. Never have been. We’re a free society; we’ve got television. We have radio. We have newspapers. We have the videocassette, which is coming into play. These are new freedoms.
Couteau: How about right-wing reactionary forces, like the Klan? Wouldn’t you say that’s a strain?
Bradbury: No, those things exist on both sides. The left wing want to burn certain books, too, but they don’t. We don’t allow them too. The Huckleberry Finn liberal groups have been against … but we have to oppose that.
http://members.tripod.com/more_couteau/bradbury.htm
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 06:12 PM
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18. So what book will Bush memorize?
"The Hungry Caterpillar"?
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Still_Loves_John Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:59 PM
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14. Thats partially true
In F451, the books are burned because various groups found them offensive, and since every book contains something somehow offensive, eventually they just started burning all books.

And yes, Bradbury is conservative, but that doesn't mean you get to automatically disregard his opinion. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't post on Free Republic, so he's no freeper.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:59 PM
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15. Bradbury hates Clinton, loves Bush, and repeats Rush Limbaugh
He has fallen far in his older age.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:13 PM
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9. What a complete knob
His arrogance precedes him.

Plus he's flat out wrong.

Did his use all his mental accumen to come up
with this

"Bradbury reportedly predicted a dim forecast for "9/11" at the box office. "Who cares? Nobody will see his movie," Bradbury told the paper"

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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:21 PM
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11. Bradbury would NEVER lift a phrase from another's work...
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 05:22 PM by Raskolnik
Unless its for the title of one of his books. Then of course its completley legit.

Like, oh I don't know, stealing the title "Sing the Body Electric" from Walt Whitman. That would be fine, but anyone else doing it is a thief!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:49 PM
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13. Good one! Raskolnik!
"A figure of speech that makes brief, often casual reference to a historical or literary figure, event, or object. Always indirect... attempts to tap into the knowledge and memory of the reader in order to secure a resonant emotional effect." Holman Handbook to Literature

F451 is about firemen setting books on fire forcing others to save the lost knowledge through memory.

F9/11 is about firemen losing their lives in a fire and having others try to suppress information about the event, so that all we have left to us is memory to try and piece together the truth.

Bradbury’s F451 envisions a futuristic dark age where books and the ideas they contain are under attack from the ignorant masses, an age where the very survival of the collective wisdom of the past depends upon its preservation in individual memory.

Moore’s film F9/11 is an attempt to preserve truth in an era when information is being consciously suppressed and thrown down a collective memory hole to be lost forever.

One plays off themes raised by the other. Bradbury doesn’t like the connections Moore sees? So what?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 06:15 PM
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20. beautiful! here's another brilliant response - turning the original
article around:

gratuitous  (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-04-04 04:57 PM
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19. Fire calls Ray Bradbury a dumb bleep
"The least Bradbury could do is change the title of his little knock-off novel," said Fire from its Santa Monica home today. "I mean, I've been around for a lot longer than Ray Bradbury . . . well, a couple of months, anyway. I tried to contact him about using me as a character in his novel without my permission, but to no avail. I suppose that maybe I should visit his house, and relieve the world of any more of his hack scribblings." 
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 06:08 PM
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17. Publicity is a good thing!
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