I can't believe my sister-in-law emailed me this

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

I'm floored. I can't believe my sister-in-law sent me this crap in an email. I emailed her back that it was the biggest load of red necked ignorant logic I've ever seem and couldn't believe that she had sent it to me. Here it is in all of it's UGLY glory:

>HELL YEAH !!!
> >
> >
> >Bet you stand up and say HELL YEAH! after
> >you read this.
> >
> >I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles,
> >big houses and big campfires.
> >
> >I believe the money I make belongs to me
> >and my family, not some governmental stooge
> >with a bad comb-over who wants to give it
> >away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.
> >
> >Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing
> >makes you a killer. You can kill someone with
> >a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying
> >to ban you from driving to the ball game.
> >
> >I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for
> >a reason, that is why there are no girls
> >allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!
> >
> >I think that if you feel homosexuality is
> >wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
> >I don't think being a minority makes you
> >a victim of anything except numbers.
> >
> >The only things I can think of that are
> >truly discriminatory are things like the
> >United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine,
> >Black Entertainment Television,and Miss
> >Black America. Try to have things like the
> >United Caucasian College Fund,
> >Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> >Television, or Miss White America and see
> >what happens. Jesse Jackson will be
> >knocking down your door.
> >
> >I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of
> >others because they are different,weird,
> >or tick me off.
> >When 70% of the people who get arrested
> >are black, in cities where 70%of the
> >population is black, that is not racial
> >profiling, it is the law of statistics.
> >
> >I know what sex is, and there are not
> >varying degrees of it. If I received sex
> >from one of my subordinates in my office,
> >it wouldn't be a private matter or my
> >personal business.
> >It would be "FIRED" immediately!
> >
> >I believe that if you are selling me a milk
> >shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper
> >or a hotel room, you must do it in English!
> >As a matter of fact, if you want to be an
> >American citizen you should have to speak
> >English!.
> >
> >My father and grandfather should not have
> >died in vain so you can leave the countries
> >you were born in to come over and
> >disrespect ours.
> >
> >I think the police should have every right
> >to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten
> >them after they tell you to stop. If you
> >can't understand the order"freeze" or
> >"stop" in English, see the above lines.
> >
> >I feel much safer letting a machine with no
> >political affiliation recount votes when
> >needed. I know what the definition of
> >lying is.
> >
> >I don't think just because you were not born
> >in this country, you are qualified for any
> >special loan programs, government sponsored
> >bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can
> >open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or
> >any other business.
> >
> >We did not go to the aid of certain foreign
> >countries and risk our lives in wars to defend
> >their freedoms so that decades later they
> >could come over here and tell us our
> >constitution is a living document and open to
> >their interpretations.
> >
> >I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.
> >I know wrestling is fake, but so are movies
> >and television, and that doesn't stop you from
> >watching them. I believe a self-righteous
> >liberal or conservative with a cause is more
> >dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.
> >
> >I think Bill Gates has every right to keep
> >every penny he made and continue to make
> >more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the
> >next operating system that's better and put
> >your name on the building. Ask your buddy
> >that invented the Internet to help you..
> >
> >It doesn't take a whole village to raise a
> >child right, but it does take a parent to
> >stand up to the kid and smack his/her little
> >ass when necessary and say "NO".
> >
> >I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you
> >want them, but please don't pretend they
> >are a political statement. And please stay
> >home until that new lip ring heals, I don't
> >want to look at your ugly infected mouth as
> >you serve me french fries!
> >
> >I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of
> >all the suck ups that go along with it.
> >I know a lot of black people, and not a single
> >one of them was born in Africa, so how can
> >they be "African Americans"?
> >Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go
> >around saying I am a European-American
> >because my great, great, great, great, great,
> >great grandfather was from Europe.
> >I am proud to be from America and no where
> >else.
> >
> >And if you don't like my point of view, tough!
> >GET OVER IT!!! WAKE UP WHILE YOU STILL
> >HAVE A COUNTRY TO WAKE UP TO.
> >
> >If you are not ashamed of America, forward
> >this to everyone in your address book while
> >you can still do it for free. !

[seabeyond]

1. couldnt read it all, but what was her response

to your response, lol lol

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

7. Don't have one yet

Can't wait to show hubby what his "big sis" has become of late.

[Wonk]

2. and yet you chose to disseminate it further still?

:shrug:

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

4. Actually

i was hoping for some support, but thanks anyway.

[wryter2000]

What amazes me

It amazes me that these morons never seem to think of an original thought or even question the source for the crap they send. They just send them and send them and send them.

[jdj]

16. I believe...

I believe blowhards like the person who wrote this letter should shut the fuck up. Nobody wants to hear it.

All that verbage and nothing said. This person could have saved a lot of time and effort if he just sent an e-mail that said:

"I'm an asshole. The end."

It slays me how these people always criticize those less fortunate, but don't ever bother to look up, to the corporate welfairies, and the their taxpayer money going into the pockets of these criminals with no return on their money at all. It gives them no peace to think they may have fed a child or gotten an innocent (whom they claim to love before they are born) health care.

This is the most glaring contradiction. Pro-choice people are baby-killers and murderers, and aborted babies are slaughtered innocents, but once the child it born it is a throw-away child of a "crack addict" who "squirted it out", and is, however innocent, somehow stealing from the "producers of society". I actually have an uncle who benefitted greatly from the repeal of the capital gains tax, and said he felt that his money should come back to him rather than go to "some black woman in Atlanta with nine children". The fact that most people on welfare are white never gets through to people like him, thanks in no small part to republican party propaganda.

[Stuckinthebush]

77. I'm glad the poster did put it up

I like to see the crap out there. Why is it a bad thing that he/she posted this so we could A.) see what was out there in the conservative e-mail bins, and B.) help him/her to respond to such nonsense?

[Cheswick2.0]

3. I can't believe she e-mailed it to you either

There seems to be an epidemic of that going around today.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

5. Thing is

She claims to be a democrat, her sister is a lesbian and her father is probably the most outspoken opponent of Bush Sr., Reagan and Bush (the little man) I know. He would be absolutley disgusted by it all. I'm just so shocked and appalled.

[Q]

6. Hmmm...

...Clever way to disseminate racist, fascist garbage.

[Cheswick2.0]

9. I was shocked and appalled when I first received it 4 years ago

I didn't know it was still flying around the net. I of course also told my sister off when she sent it to me.

[WLKjr]

65. No kidding

yeah, no kidding Cheswick, you seen the tear jerker that was sent to me. There is a epidemic going on. I guess it just goes to show that there is a mental illness problem that is getting worse everyday in America.

[DNA]

8. So much

racism, xenophobia, fear, and personal insecurity undergirding this nonsense. It's sad that there are so many people who are so miserable and feel so inferior that they have to resort to these childish tirades.

[Name removed]

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[Maestro]

14. You agree?

:wtf:

[Name removed]

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[salin]

26. so folks receiving aid (which is limited) are crackheads

sitting around squirting out babies?

Who gets more subsidies in this country... the poor or the multinational conglomerates... some of whom then create big tax shelters off shore (like halliburton) to pay even fewer taxes.

Ah... but the email's sentiment suggests the problem is all the welfare crackheads "squirting out babies". (and the whole email is full of prejudice bile like that.)

Well I guess, it is sort of brave to admit that one harbors such raw venom and disdain towards others :shrug:

[Medium Baby Jesus]

27. Just One

Please tell me one one idea in that piece that you agree with. I'm just curious. :)

[VOX]

39. If you agree with that bilge, you're on the wrong site...

That shopworn e-mail typifies the very kind of thinking that is **wrong** with America.

[DNA]

31. The sentiments expressed:

1. racism
2. xenophobia
3. fear
4. hatred
5. sexism
6. ignorance
7. insecurity
8. egotism
9. misogyny
10. malevolence

You agree with most of those?

[progressivebydesign]

11. Is the Internet such a good thing after all?

Sometimes I just wonder!

Okay.. one point from this dumb thing your SIL sent:

> >I know what sex is, and there are not
> >varying degrees of it. If I received sex
> >from one of my subordinates in my office,
> >it wouldn't be a private matter or my
> >personal business.
> >It would be "FIRED" immediately!

My only response to that is to tell your SIL if THAT was the case, 80% of people working right now, would not be working. You don't get fired for having sex with a subordinate. It's called dating. Duh.

[Hammie]

47. Guess who hasn't been to sexual harassment training

In my company, if I had sex with one of my subordinates, in my office, I would be fired in a heartbeat.

[GOPisEvil]

12. Sounds like the Freeper Creed.

[Maestro]

13. Give the poster the benefit of the doubt

unless you know something I don't.

Yes, I am sickened by this crap. But you know what? It is so much easier for many to think this way instead of tackling the real issues and trying to solve problems. It would be much different if they could even attempt to empathize with the people that they are railing about.

[jdj]

24. Randi Rhodes has it nailed.

The media IS problem, and they are not countering this crap and educating people about the truth because they are owned by the GOP.

What I get from this is that this person feels put upon, or a Rovian type KNOWS that these folks feel put upon and wrote this to appeal to these poor white folks who feel so disenfranchised or victimized. The pukes manufacture this stuff to go "YES, you ARE a victim, and here is why and by who!" and it's all a lie, but since no one else is appealing to their sense of victimization and
betrayal, then they'll buy this hook line and sinker.

I would sure like people to be grateful for what they have, and not begrudge a child a meal bought by foodstamps, or a single mother given job training.

I think it is a knee-jerk response for white men, who somehow ended up at the bottom of the pecking order, to be frustrated and angry that despite their whiteness and maleness, they don't have a better lot in life. And then the repukes come along and say, look, the reason you're at the bottom of the totem pole is SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT! Who?

Fill in the blank: blacks, gays, French people, animal rights activists, gun control activists, women, arctic wolves, you name it.

It like a reassurance fantasy, 'you're really sposed to be King of the World, and if it weren't for THOSE PEOPLE you would be, so hate them, because if it weren't for them you would have a better station in life.

Or something.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

37. Yep

"And then the repukes come along and say, look, the reason you're at the bottom of the totem pole is SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT! Who?"

This is the same method the Nazis used to gain support...the jews were to blame then.

[Eric J in MN]

17. If she thinks that more of her taxes go to welfare than to military

If she thinks that more of her taxes go to welfare than to military spending, tell her to guess again.

[Lorien]

85. Most Freeps are brainwashed into believing this

go up to www.truemajority.org and get the real statistics. Something like 70% of our taxes go to the military, while 3% or so go to social programs.

BTW- I've worked in corporate America for many years, and a whole lotta sex goes on between co-workers at all different levels of the company. I've never known anyone to be fired because of it, have you?

And one more question; do the people sending this redneck self centered drivel consider themselves "Christian", because the statements contained in it prove otherwise.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

18. Reply with this

A small Alabama Wild Animal Park acquired a very rare species of gorilla.
Within a few weeks, the gorilla, who was a female, became very difficult to handle.
Upon examination, the park veterinarian determined the problem. The gorilla was in heat. To make matters worse, there was no male gorilla available.

Reflecting on their problem, the park administrator thought of Freddie Standen, a Republican/Freeper part-time intern, who was responsible for cleaning the animals' cages.

Freddie, like most Republican/Freeper, had little sense, but possessed ample ability to satisfy a female of any species.

The park administrator thought they might have a solution. Freddie was approached with a proposition. Would he be willing to mate with the gorilla for $500.00?

Freddie showed some interest, but said he would have to think the matter over carefully. The following day, Freddie announced that he would accept their offer,
but only under the following four conditions.

"First," he said, "I don't want to have to kiss her on the lips." The park administrator quickly agreed to this condition.

"Second," Freddie said, "you must never tell anyone about this." The park administrator again readily agreed to this condition.

"Third," Freddie said, "I want all the offspring to be raised Southern Baptist."
Once again the administrator agreed.

And last of all Freddie stated, "You've got to give me another week to come up with the $500.00."

[laylah]

19. My nephew's idiot wife

sent me this...my response was "your point"? they hate it when you won't argue with them...at least the morans in my family tree.

Jenn

[maveric]

20. Further signs of the nazification of america.

I feel that WE are terribly outnumbered.

[otohara]

21. I, I, I, Me, Me, Me, Mine, Mine, Mine -

I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me french fries! WTF is that all about?

[matcom]

22. GIVE ME ABOUT AN HOUR BEFORE YOU RESPOND!!!!

let me eat dinner then debunk this filth line by line

i'll PM you when i'm done

[Maestro]

25. No, debunk here, please

[salin]

28. Matcom does a fantastic

debunk of these venomlaced emails.

[Shopaholic]

34. Wow--that manages to be racist, sexiest, homophobic. .

zenophobic and every other -ist and -phobic that you can think of all at once. Not to mention completely wrong & well, just plain mean. Guess they're called Re-pugs for a reason. . .

[RhodaGrits]

33. Yes, here please. I've been spending way too much time

replying/debunking this crap and I'd like to see how a master does it LOL

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

40. O thank you SO much

I have to go to work and wanted to do the exact same thing! I will appreciate so much!:hug:

[aintitfunny]

23. Chalk it up to

Poor breeding for whoever originated this vitriol. A demonstration on how to have a selfish, right wing, feet stomping, arms flailing, spit flying temper tantrum. Silly, stupid and childish. Deserves the never-ending time out. Let it go, it is not worth the effort to even be offended.

[DrWeird]

29. Just e-mail back:

"Save it for the cross-burning, Adolf"

[Killarney]

35. That's what I would do.

What a pig she is for forwarding that shit. Everything horrible about the world is in there: racism, homophobia, child abuse, anti-government McVeigh propaganda, etc.

[NMDemDist2]

56. be sure to send the debunking to all she sent it out to

I just LOVE the "reply to all" button

[AspenRose]

30. Well, before 1984, that's pretty much what the Miss America Pageant

was..."Miss White America...."

The only things I can think of that are
> >truly discriminatory are things like the
> >United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine,
> >Black Entertainment Television,and Miss
> >Black America. Try to have things like the
> >United Caucasian College Fund,
> >Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> >Television, or Miss White America and see
> >what happens. Jesse Jackson will be
> >knocking down your door.

Perhaps when there are more accurate and positive portrayals of all people of color (not just blacks...why is it these e-mails always target BLACKS for some reason?) in the mainstream media (which could also be argued for so-called "Cloud" magazine, which is the most ridiculously ignorant thing I've ever heard), then I see nothing wrong with black (or Latino, or any other) media appealing to an audience to provide said positive images, stories and history. God knows you won't always see it in the mainstream or have it taught in the schools. And I'm not talking about tokenism, either.

I have never understood why or how these people are *offended* by these options and sorts of things. How does it bother them *directly* (short of screaming "unfair, unfair") that they feel they have to be hostile towards it? They can pick up a copy of Jet (or preferably Black Enterprise or American Visions) and maybe LEARN something. No one's stopping them.

Looking forward to seeing what Matcom has to say.

[swinney]

32. Great. I like it. here is why

Thought provoking.

We learn to counter every piece of such junk.

We have intelligence on our side.

We have knowledge with us.

We can reason.

It is like my breakfast pal. I said we found no WMD

He said oh yes we did. A shell with sarin.

I refused to reply to such inaneness.

[hippiegranny]

36. this is so awful

on every single level, not the least withstanding is the fact that people mindlessly forward this embarrassing sub-human crap out thereby giving it their endorsement. sad sad commentary about the state of the "average" american mind.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

38. Hell that's my mother in law's favorite

email to spread around. My father in law's favorite, too.

They make rush look downright liberal. Yes they are scary. VERY scary.

Funny thing is, my mother in law USED to be a big ol' liberal and raised my husband to be one. It must have stuck for him, because he is in his late 30s and still is a big ol' liberal. What happened to her I have no idea.

And the REALLY crazy thing about my father in law loving that email? When he came to this country from Germany he was a kid and couldn't speak a word of English. His teachers used to hit him with a ruler if he spoke German. Maybe he subconsciously wants other immigrants to be treated the same way he was?

Or maybe it only applies to NON-EUROPEAN immigrants?

Dunno, I have stopped trying to figure people like that out. They are WACKED. Mainlining crack cocaine, know what I mean?

Did you hit reply all? Hee hee, I love to do that.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

41. We have SO much in common it's scary!

I plan on sending Matcoms debunking to her when I get home from work and then I'll hit reply ALL.

My mom is from Germany and used to be a big ol liberal too, I think she gave up.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

42. I just tried googling matcom and couldn't find it

what is the web address?

[Bandit]

43. Okay I've seen the light

From now on I will hate everyone that I feel is inferior to me in any way and not support taxes for they only go to help those poor folk who should be done away with to keep our race pure. Yep I no longer want to see good deeds done or a country to be proud of. I've seen the light and it is all because of your brilliant post. You done good and made many converts here.

[RebelOne]

44. I agree with a couple of points made, but this is the one

I am in total agreement with.

I believe that if you are selling me a milk
> >shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper
> >or a hotel room, you must do it in English!
> >As a matter of fact, if you want to be an
> >American citizen you should have to speak
> >English!.


I lived in Miami, Florida for most of my life and I was so infuriated at having to tell the Cubans vendors, "Yo no hablo Espanol, please speak English."

[Pithlet]

59. There isn't

a magical pill that enables one to instantly speak a country's language the moment they cross the border, you know. It can take a long time to master a language enough to speak it fluently, and it varies from person to person, and what age they were when first exposed.

[Pattib]

73. Wow, I lived in Spain for 4 years and tried to adapt.

I tried to learn the language but I know I fumbled around a lot. The Spanish people were very generous and patient with me. They gave me short lessons on grammar and tried to help me out as much as possible.

It's hard to learn a new language. I lived in Key West after leaving Spain and I never felt put out by the Cuban population that spoke broken english, or no english for that matter. It is hard for adults to pick up a second language.
I don't understand why only speaking english makes us better. I think it would benefit everyone to learn a second language. Most countries teach their children several languages, not just their native tongue.

[redqueen]

84. "Most countries teach their children several languages..."

Reminds me of a joke:

What do you call someone that speaks two languages? Bilingual.

What do you call someone that speaks three languages? Trilingual.

What do you call someone who only speaks one language? American.

:(

[Cheswick2.0]

83. why not learn spanish?

Or deal with the sign language? It is not that hard to purchase something in a store even if you can't speak the language.

[Jade Fox]

45. The under lying message of this is....

Don't make me give a damn about anything beyond the end of my nose
and don't make me think about anything except myself.

And being like that makes one proud of America? :wtf:

[DNA]

46. Here's a rebuttal for ya

>HELL YEAH !!!
> >
> >
> >Bet you stand up and say HELL YEAH! after
> >you read this.
> >
The speaker lost the bet.

> >I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles,
> >big houses and big campfires.
> >
This information is utterly irrelevant to anyone but the speaker. The statement betrays deep insecurities on the part of the speaker. To wit, he/she (probably he) feels an urgency to express his/her likes against the indifference of the rest of us and feels the need to make everything big in order to overcompensate for whatever he/she feels is really small in him/her.

> >I believe the money I make belongs to me
> >and my family, not some governmental stooge
> >with a bad comb-over who wants to give it
> >away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.
> >
This is not where tax money goes. The speaker is clearly ignorant of what happens with tax money.

> >Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing
> >makes you a killer. You can kill someone with
> >a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying
> >to ban you from driving to the ball game.
And in this country no one bans guns either. We also have one of the highest homicide rates of any industrialized country. One wonders about the wisdom of making guns readily available to such a violent, homicidal people, but guns are prevalent here nonetheless.

> >
> >I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for
> >a reason, that is why there are no girls
> >allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!
?????

> >
> >I think that if you feel homosexuality is
> >wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
“Wrong” is a meaningless term in this context. Is “feeling that homosexuality is wrong” what Matthew Shephard’s killers did? If this is a denial of the existence of homophobia, it’s a very bad one, as opinions necessarily come from somewhere, and many opinions do originate in fears/phobias.

> >I don't think being a minority makes you
> >a victim of anything except numbers.
This is strange, given that the speaker clearly feels he/she is a victim. The victimology in this diatribe is strong, in fact. Moreover, minorities have been victimized in this country. Is this a denial of slavery? Of discrimination?

> >
> >The only things I can think of that are
> >truly discriminatory are things like the
> >United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine,
> >Black Entertainment Television,and Miss
> >Black America. Try to have things like the
> >United Caucasian College Fund,
> >Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> >Television, or Miss White America and see
> >what happens. Jesse Jackson will be
> >knocking down your door.
This betrays a deep racism on the part of the speaker. The speaker cannot stretch his/her mind to think of discriminatory “things” like segregation, the KKK, queer bashing, etc.?

> >
> >I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of
> >others because they are different,weird,
> >or tick me off.
Interesting that this discriminatory statement comes immediately after the affirmation that only black-oriented institutions are truly discriminatory.

> >When 70% of the people who get arrested
> >are black, in cities where 70%of the
> >population is black, that is not racial
> >profiling, it is the law of statistics.
Those are not actual statistics. In my town, for example, there has been a study of police stops and it’s been proven that the cops do stop people for driving while black or brown far beyond their actual representation in the driving population.

> >
> >I know what sex is, and there are not
> >varying degrees of it. If I received sex
> >from one of my subordinates in my office,
> >it wouldn't be a private matter or my
> >personal business.
> >It would be "FIRED" immediately!
Given that this happens all the time in all sorts of job situations and people do not get fired because of it, we can only attribute this statement to hyperbole.

> >
> >I believe that if you are selling me a milk
> >shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper
> >or a hotel room, you must do it in English!
> >As a matter of fact, if you want to be an
> >American citizen you should have to speak
> >English!.
This reveals great xenophobia on the part of the speaker. In fact, most immigrant families are English-dominant by the second generation, as when Europeans were the predominant immigrants, but this speaker does not allow facts to interfere with his/her opinions.

> >
> >My father and grandfather should not have
> >died in vain so you can leave the countries
> >you were born in to come over and
> >disrespect ours.
To whom does the speaker think he/she is speaking? What did his/her father die of and what does it have to do with the imagined interlocutor? Who exactly is disrespecting “the country”? How is this being done? By people speaking their native tongues? That’s disrespect? Again, this is victimology on the part of the speaker. He/She feels seriously threatened by other languages, essentially.

> >
> >I think the police should have every right
> >to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten
> >them after they tell you to stop. If you
> >can't understand the order"freeze" or
> >"stop" in English, see the above lines.
And this happens how often exactly? The speaker seems to be prejudging hypothetical court cases. Why exactly?

> >
> >I feel much safer letting a machine with no
> >political affiliation recount votes when
> >needed.
Machines are made by/programmed by fallible people.

I know what the definition of
> >lying is.
Why is this in question?

> >
> >I don't think just because you were not born
> >in this country, you are qualified for any
> >special loan programs, government sponsored
> >bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can
> >open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or
> >any other business.
There is no such loan specifically designed to compensate people not born in this country. Again, the speaker betrays a deep-seated fear of foreigners. Chances are he/she feels inferior because he/she is not doing as well as people who were born outside the U.S. and immigrated here. Whose fault is that, though?

> >
> >We did not go to the aid of certain foreign
> >countries and risk our lives in wars to defend
> >their freedoms so that decades later they
> >could come over here and tell us our
> >constitution is a living document and open to
> >their interpretations.
The xenophobia is palpable once again. The speaker is wholly unaware of the fact that the constitution would be nothing but a piece of paper were it not a living document. And most constitutional scholars in this country – i.e. people who interpret the constitution – are not foreign born.

> >
> >I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.
George Soros, William Buffett and Bill Gates Sr. don’t hate the rich either, yet they argue for a fairer economic system. This is ignorant “class warfare” rhetoric.

> >I know wrestling is fake, but so are movies
> >and television, and that doesn't stop you from
> >watching them.
Whatever.

I believe a self-righteous
> >liberal or conservative with a cause is more
> >dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.
What about a self-righteous Hell’s Angel?

> >
> >I think Bill Gates has every right to keep
> >every penny he made and continue to make
> >more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the
> >next operating system that's better and put
> >your name on the building. Ask your buddy
> >that invented the Internet to help you..
> >
Curiously, the Gates family believes in progressive taxation and understands that wealth is created collectively. Go figure.

> >It doesn't take a whole village to raise a
> >child right, but it does take a parent to
> >stand up to the kid and smack his/her little
> >ass when necessary and say "NO".
It takes a parent, a grandparent, a teacher, a neighbor, a friend, the parents of the friend, sisters, brothers, cousins, aunts, uncles, grocers, doctors, nurses, coaches, store owners, police officers... Oops! We’ve got ourselves a village!

> >
> >I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you
> >want them, but please don't pretend they
> >are a political statement. And please stay
> >home until that new lip ring heals, I don't
> >want to look at your ugly infected mouth as
> >you serve me french fries!
> >
??????

> >I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of
> >all the suck ups that go along with it.
Me too, but political correctness these days belongs wholly to the right-wing. Witness the Reagan orgy currently on display. Witness the reactions to Wellstone’s funeral not long ago. Witness the way Kerry is made to apologize for having opposed a war we now know was a profound mistake.

The term “political correctness” is often used, as in this case, to silence others. Also, as in this case, it is used with little self-awareness. The speaker here clearly subscribes to a specific and highly peculiar version of political correctness, yet is utterly unaware of it.

> >I know a lot of black people, and not a single
> >one of them was born in Africa, so how can
> >they be "African Americans"?
The statement betrays the linguistic ignorance of the speaker. Italian Americans, Asian Americans, Irish Americans, etc. are all common terminology to refer to people whose ancestry traces back to the designated areas. Moreover, the speaker is clearly deeply threatened by the African American identity.

> >Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go
> >around saying I am a European-American
> >because my great, great, great, great, great,
> >great grandfather was from Europe.
> >I am proud to be from America and no where
> >else.
The speaker probably has no clue about his/her actual origins. Regardless of how he/she chooses to label him/herself, there is such a thing as a European American, and the designation does not depend on one’s level of pride. What’s more, European Americans have the luxury of not having to label ourselves because we arbitrarily decided we were the norm rather than the exception.

> >
> >And if you don't like my point of view, tough!
> >GET OVER IT!!! WAKE UP WHILE YOU STILL
> >HAVE A COUNTRY TO WAKE UP TO.
> >
These statements are non sequiturs. They refer to the speaker’s emotions: misplaced anger, vague fear, false bravado, etc. My country is not likely to disappear because this particular person is afraid.

> >If you are not ashamed of America, forward
> >this to everyone in your address book while
> >you can still do it for free. !
The speaker here attributes his/her personal feelings to an entire nation. His/her feelings become the measuring stick for citizenship. This is the essence of political correctness, which the speaker claimed to despise.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

53. VERY SERIOUSLY GOOD RESPONSE!

THAT deserves a kick! :kick:

[DNA]

57. Thank you.

I read a very good response below (can't remember the poster's handle).

[Catherine Vincent]

62. Very good comeback.

[drdtroit]

81. WELL DONE!

[DNA]

86. Thanks

But I think WARREN Buffett might prefer to be called by his real name.

[WoodrowFan]

82. STANDING O!!!

NICE JOB!!!! :yourock:

[kiahzero]

48. Here's a response

> >I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles,
> >big houses and big campfires.

So you view waste as a virtue? Interesting.

> >I believe the money I make belongs to me
> >and my family, not some governmental stooge
> >with a bad comb-over who wants to give it
> >away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

I believe that those babies that are "squirted out" are still people, and still deserve to, you know, eat? Have a place to sleep? That kind of thing.

> >Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing
> >makes you a killer. You can kill someone with
> >a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying
> >to ban you from driving to the ball game.

No, owning a gun does not make one a killer. Just like owning a car doesn't make one a reckless driver. The state still regulates cars, though.

> >I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for
> >a reason, that is why there are no girls
> >allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!

Definitional arguments are invalid when the only reason for the discrimination is to perpetuate <group> roles; racial discrimination is not valid when it's purpose is simply to maintain white supremacy, just as gender discrimination is not valid when it's purpose is simply to maintain patriarchy.

> >I think that if you feel homosexuality is
> >wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
> >I don't think being a minority makes you
> >a victim of anything except numbers.

"Homophobia" is a quirk of the language; looking at the etymology, one would think that "anti-Semitism" means being against all Semites, include Arabs. But that's not the meaning of the word.

* ON EDIT: No, being a minority, in of itself, does not make one a victim of anything but numbers. It is when the majority wields its power to deny this minority their rights that that minority becomes a victim.

> >The only things I can think of that are
> >truly discriminatory are things like the
> >United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine,
> >Black Entertainment Television,and Miss
> >Black America. Try to have things like the
> >United Caucasian College Fund,
> >Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> >Television, or Miss White America and see
> >what happens. Jesse Jackson will be
> >knocking down your door.

Funny; the only things that you think are truly discriminatory are black organizations. Doesn't this contradict your point about the Boy Scouts, or is discrimination valid so long as it doesn't hurt you personally?

> >I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of
> >others because they are different,weird,
> >or tick me off.

Yes, you have that right. I have the right to point out that exercising the right you speak of in at least the first two cases makes you a jackass.

> >When 70% of the people who get arrested
> >are black, in cities where 70%of the
> >population is black, that is not racial
> >profiling, it is the law of statistics.

That's true. It also means that there's nothing about blacks that make them more likely to commit a crime.

> >I know what sex is, and there are not
> >varying degrees of it. If I received sex
> >from one of my subordinates in my office,
> >it wouldn't be a private matter or my
> >personal business.
> >It would be "FIRED" immediately!

Private citizens can get fired for all sorts of reasons. The President can only be impeached for high crimes and misdemenors; in the minds of most rational people, recieving a blowjob does not rise to this level.

> >I believe that if you are selling me a milk
> >shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper
> >or a hotel room, you must do it in English!
> >As a matter of fact, if you want to be an
> >American citizen you should have to speak
> >English!.

Fine. Don't shop at places that hire employees that can't speak English. As for needing to speak English to be an American citizen, what rational reason is there for such a requirement?

> >I think the police should have every right
> >to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten
> >them after they tell you to stop. If you
> >can't understand the order"freeze" or
> >"stop" in English, see the above lines.

If you honestly believe that, you would be much more at home in an authoritarian government. Here in America, there exists the rule of law. Merely resisting arrest is not sufficient to execute someone. Deadly force by police is only valid when the officer's life is in danger.

> >I feel much safer letting a machine with no
> >political affiliation recount votes when
> >needed. I know what the definition of
> >lying is.

Then you are a fool. Machines which are poorly designed are not capable of following the law; many valid votes were not counted in Florida because of Bush and the five Supreme Court justices writing one of the worst decisions in the history of this nation.

> >I don't think just because you were not born
> >in this country, you are qualified for any
> >special loan programs, government sponsored
> >bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can
> >open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or
> >any other business.

Perhaps you might be happier if the government let the economy stagnate?

> >We did not go to the aid of certain foreign
> >countries and risk our lives in wars to defend
> >their freedoms so that decades later they
> >could come over here and tell us our
> >constitution is a living document and open to
> >their interpretations.

What, precisely, are you talking about? The meaning of the Constitution is open to interpretation; that is the role of the Supreme Court... to figure out what the phrases and clauses of the Constitution mean in the practical sense. Which "certain foreign countries" are trying to interpret the United States Constitution for us?

> >I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.
> >I know wrestling is fake, but so are movies
> >and television, and that doesn't stop you from
> >watching them. I believe a self-righteous
> >liberal or conservative with a cause is more
> >dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

At least a "self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause" is concerned about the direction of the country... that is significantly less dangerous than apathy.

> >I think Bill Gates has every right to keep
> >every penny he made and continue to make
> >more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the
> >next operating system that's better and put
> >your name on the building. Ask your buddy
> >that invented the Internet to help you..

When Bill Gates illegally leverages his monopoly to maintain his control over the operating system, he makes it difficult, if not impossible, to create a successful and superior operating system. Ask people you know who are knowledgable in computers, and ask their opinion of Windows. The majority will tell you that it is a poor operating system.

> >It doesn't take a whole village to raise a
> >child right, but it does take a parent to
> >stand up to the kid and smack his/her little
> >ass when necessary and say "NO".

Saying no is all well and good, but child abuse is hardly a way to raise a child. A "whole village" has an impact on the child, therefore, if elements are causing negative influences, and they are not balanced out by other positive influences, the child will suffer.

> >I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you
> >want them, but please don't pretend they
> >are a political statement. And please stay
> >home until that new lip ring heals, I don't
> >want to look at your ugly infected mouth as
> >you serve me french fries!

Outright bullshit. Hell, I have a really close friend whose tattoos and piercings are a religious expression for her.

> >I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of
> >all the suck ups that go along with it.
> >I know a lot of black people, and not a single
> >one of them was born in Africa, so how can
> >they be "African Americans"?
> >Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go
> >around saying I am a European-American
> >because my great, great, great, great, great,
> >great grandfather was from Europe.
> >I am proud to be from America and no where
> >else.

This came about because racists would take perfectly valid words and put a pejoritive spin upon them; hence, some felt it was necessary to coin new words without the pejoritive implications.

[Catherine Vincent]

64. That's a good comeback too.

[onecitizen]

49. I got one forwarded to me..........

too that was very similar but with a more patriotic and military flair to it. I don't even read most of the crap my cousin sends me cause I know what it's gonna be. Trouble is....I love my cousin. He's a great guy. Really. He is great! So when it comes to politics, I have to ignore it. We don't live close so that helps. BTW, he knows how I feel. I wrote him a very sincere letter when this all started so he knows it upsets me but does it anyway.

[matcom]

50. MY DEBUNK HERE!! (sorry this took so long - its a long email)

change this if/how you like. i am a little tired and their may be some mistakes but you get the jist

>HELL YEAH !!!
> >
> >
> >Bet you stand up and say HELL YEAH! after
> >you read this.
> >
> >I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles,
> >big houses and big campfires.

Nice. Enjoy your $2 per gallon gas to fill up your SUV, $300 to fill up your large boat & don’t come crying to me when your electric bill tops $2,000 / year to heat your monstrous home.

>I believe the money I make belongs to me
> >and my family, not some governmental stooge
> >with a bad comb-over who wants to give it
> >away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

You are absolutely correct here. It does NOT belong to some ‘governmental stooge’. You children and their friends, I’ll bet do NOT go to public school, nor do you use public freeways. I’ll bet you do not leave your trash out for the town or city to pick up for you or use your public parks. You do not care if your roads are plowed in winter or have potholes in the summer. Good for you.

Also, better to have those babies die in the gutters of your suburban street. Don’t worry. The trash-man will come by once a week and scoop them up. Oops, wait. We need tax dollars for those men. Oh well, it will never happen in your white, suburban neighborhood.

> >Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing
> >makes you a killer. You can kill someone with
> >a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying
> >to ban you from driving to the ball game.

Nobody is trying to ban you from guns, bats or cars. The only argument is whether or not you need to shoot 30 rounds per second to put that deer on your table. Oh right, you need to protect yourself. Well, if the only way you can hit an intruder is to be able to fire off 100 rounds in the shortest time possible, then I recommend you take some firearms courses.

> >I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for
> >a reason, that is why there are no girls
> >allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!


Absolutely. I agree 100%. It’s just too bad that ALL boys aren’t allowed to be included in this important activity and can benefit from its teachings and experiences.

> >I think that if you feel homosexuality is
> >wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
> >I don't think being a minority makes you
> >a victim of anything except numbers.

Even though your above ‘paragraph’ makes no grammatical sense, I’ll answer it. Assuming you feel that homosexuality is an ‘opinion’ (yes, I’m still a little confused). Thank God that single motherhood and alcoholism aren’t included in your diatribe even though those that “suffer” these afflictions may or may not be in the minority.

> >The only things I can think of that are
> >truly discriminatory are things like the
> >United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine,
> >Black Entertainment Television,and Miss
> >Black America. Try to have things like the
> >United Caucasian College Fund,
> >Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> >Television, or Miss White America and see
> >what happens. Jesse Jackson will be
> >knocking down your door.

There are plenty of groups espousing “White America”. Unfortunately, they mostly burn crosses and call black-folk racial names but they exist. You, as an American are free to join their cause.


> >I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of
> >others because they are different,weird,
> >or tick me off.
> >When 70% of the people who get arrested
> >are black, in cities where 70%of the
> >population is black, that is not racial
> >profiling, it is the law of statistics.


Again, you are correct. You DO have that ‘right’. Its too damned bad that you feel this way and I’ll bet that you do not live in the neighborhood’s that you espouse to know so much about, nor are you a member of the population you are an expert on. Of course there is no ‘racial profiling’ in this country because it has never happened to you.

> >I know what sex is, and there are not
> >varying degrees of it. If I received sex
> >from one of my subordinates in my office,
> >it wouldn't be a private matter or my
> >personal business.
> >It would be "FIRED" immediately!

You probably would be fired immediately. Especially if there were illegal wire taps that proved you had a personal affair while in the confines of your place of business. Of course, you would most likely take the matter to court if it ‘happened’ to you and under our laws, the wire tap would have been likely thrown out. You would probably be free to keep your job. This of course assumes that your place of business was NOT also your residence.


> >I believe that if you are selling me a milk
> >shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper
> >or a hotel room, you must do it in English!
> >As a matter of fact, if you want to be an
> >American citizen you should have to speak
> >English!.

Funny. My guess is that you are able to ask for that pack of cigarettes, newspaper and hotel room in English and that more often than not, the person behind the counter, making minimum wage, is able to reach for your requested item. Many of them are not citizens but they don’t seem to be elbowing you out of the employment line. At least that is my guess anyway.

> >My father and grandfather should not have
> >died in vain so you can leave the countries
> >you were born in to come over and
> >disrespect ours.

Your father and grandfather? Really? I’ll assume you are referring to France and the beaches of Normandy. If you are referring to Viet Nam then I will have to refer you to the vast Vietnamese Contingent of Constitutional Revisionists in search of turning America to their beloved way of Communism.

If you are talking about those of us who actually respect the Constitution of this country and its meaning, then you won’t mind us questioning our government at every turn as was intended by our fore-fathers.


> >I think the police should have every right
> >to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten
> >them after they tell you to stop. If you
> >can't understand the order” freeze" or
> >"stop" in English, see the above lines.


No argument here. I’ll even bet you that “STOP” is one of the first words aspiring immigrants learn before stepping foot on our ‘freedom shores’. Kind of sad If you think about it for a minute.

> >I feel much safer letting a machine with no
> >political affiliation recount votes when
> >needed. I know what the definition of
> >lying is.


Funny thing about this. You embrace technology yet have no idea that a human was responsible for programming it. You are probably correct though that said human is SURE to have no “political affiliation”. My guess is that you work in a technology field.

> >I don't think just because you were not born
> >in this country, you are qualified for any
> >special loan programs, government sponsored
> >bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can
> >open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or
> >any other business.


Again, your wisdom is obvious. There are far too many white, Americans who are opening up “trinket stores”, and coffee shops. In no way should we be helping the people who come to this country at all. If they fail, it’s their own damned fault. We would MUCH rather step over them on the sidewalk and ignore their empty begging cups than help them succeed. You are correct in your disdain every morning when you visit their local coffee shop and enjoy your morning coffee while driving your SUV to your “office manager” job.

> >We did not go to the aid of certain foreign
> >countries and risk our lives in wars to defend
> >their freedoms so that decades later they
> >could come over here and tell us our
> >constitution is a living document and open to
> >their interpretations.


I may be naive here but I don’t really know of many French who are “interpreting” our Constitution for their revision. (I’ll assume that is who you are referring to). If not, you must be talking about Grenada. Or, more recently, Iraq? Frankly, the Iraqi’s would like to live by their OWN Constitution but we aren’t exactly promoting that idea. It’s too damned bad that more than 800 of our brave men and women had to die for that “mistake”, don’t you think?

> >I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.
> >I know wrestling is fake, but so are movies
> >and television, and that doesn't stop you from
> >watching them. I believe a self-righteous
> >liberal or conservative with a cause is more
> >dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

Won’t disagree with you here but I’ll bet you get your “news” exclusively from FOX.


> >I think Bill Gates has every right to keep
> >every penny he made and continue to make
> >more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the
> >next operating system that's better and put
> >your name on the building. Ask your buddy
> >that invented the Internet to help you..


Of course you are correct. I only wish I knew who “invented the Internet”. I know who was the first one to utilize it to its then, fullest potential but have yet to pinpoint who the true “father of the Internet” was. I’ll get back to you on that though.

> >It doesn't take a whole village to raise a
> >child right, but it does take a parent to
> >stand up to the kid and smack his/her little
> >ass when necessary and say "NO".


No, but the village has the responsibility to stand up to your child when all he learns in your home is violence. See, your little “Johnny” will likely vandalize my home someday because your lifestyle is centered on “Smacking his little ass”. It would be nice if you instilled values that didn’t require violence BEFORE “Johnny” acted up. Respect is much tougher to teach than punishment. I understand that and understand your limitations.

> >I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you
> >want them, but please don't pretend they
> >are a political statement. And please stay
> >home until that new lip ring heals, I don't
> >want to look at your ugly infected mouth as
> >you serve me french fries!

Ok. Fair enough. Not really even worth addressing but you might want to lay off the French Fries. Haven’t you heard? They are called “Freedom Fries” now.

>I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of
> >all the suck ups that go along with it.
> >I know a lot of black people, and not a single
> >one of them was born in Africa, so how can
> >they be "African Americans"?
> >Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go
> >around saying I am a European-American
> >because my great, great, great, great, great,
> >great grandfather was from Europe.
> >I am proud to be from America and no where
> >else.

Of course you are proud. Your relatives were never shackled, tortured, bought and sold like “trinkets” or raped and murdered. There is no reason whatsoever for you to have ANY animosity. Be thankful. Actually, you ARE a “European-American” and its too damned bad that you refuse to acknowledge your true heritage.

> >And if you don't like my point of view, tough!
> >GET OVER IT!!! WAKE UP WHILE YOU STILL
> >HAVE A COUNTRY TO WAKE UP TO.


I am a member of the greatest country in the history of mankind. I am a veteran who has served his country honorably and votes in every single election, no matter how “local” or “important”. I take great pride in being an informed citizen and read a wide variety of publications so I can make an informed decision on how I would like to live my life. I refuse to make “knee jerk” reactions based on opinions of those around me and believe that every person living in this country has a right to succeed if they are willing to put in the effort.

> >If you are not ashamed of America, forward
> >this to everyone in your address book while
> >you can still do it for free. !

I am NOT ashamed of America but am ashamed of bigoted vitriol such as this. Who is the REAL patriot here?

[Catherine Vincent]

66. I say hell yeah to your response, mattcom.

You guys are good. I honestly don't know what my response would be if I received one of those emails, although it would be 1% chance I did get it since I am a woman of color. LOL!

[matcom]

67. LOL

thanks hon. :loveya:

[NMDemDist2]

68. that was worth the wait-- one minor correction tho?

> >I think that if you feel homosexuality is
> >wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
> >I don't think being a minority makes you
> >a victim of anything except numbers.

Even though your above ‘paragraph’ makes no grammatical sense, I’ll answer it. Assuming you feel that homosexuality is an ‘opinion’ (yes, I’m still a little confused).

I think the "writer" was saying that believing homosexuality is wrong is an opinion, not a phobia.

But why anyone should have an "opinion" on my sexuality has always been beyond me, as long as I don't do it in the middle of the street, my bedroom games are none of your business

[AspenRose]

70. SMACKDOWN

It was worth the wait Matcom! Woo-hoo!

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

75. Thank you Thank you Thank you!

Thank you SO much for all your hard work. It will be "replied to all". And thanks to all who've responded, I'm feeling SO much better now!
:yourock:

[Imalittleteapot]

51. OMG. I think my brother composed this crap

or he has read it. It's this kind of junk that he spewed via long distance one night that turned our good relationship sour. It's hard to accept that he's related to me.

[Carolina]

52. typical Naziesque vitriol but surprise, I agree

with one comment ONLY. I hate the designation African-American, too. I am an American mutt with Black, American Indian* (Cherokee, Creek and Seminole) and White (slaveowner's) ancestry. With the one drop rule, history, experience, and a birth certificate that says Negro, I have never been one to claim mixed or some nonsense like Cablanasian (Tiger!) and usually go with the designation du jour which is A-A. But it sticks in my craw, sounds as if I just got off the boat. Also, I have worked with some (I'm not saying ALL, so don't flame) Nigerian men, i.e. real African-Americans, who drove me crazy with their misogyny.

* that's the new, favored designation rather than Native American so I'm told

[NightTrain]

54. Check out what I did to a similar e-mail

> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American.

Bad American, no imperialism!

> I like big cars,

To make up for my small cock.

> big tits,

To make up for my mother having spent more time getting drunk and fucking strange men than she did on raising me.

> and big cigars.

See the "small cock" remark above.

> I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some
> mid-level governmental functionary > with a bad combover who wants
> to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies.

If, however, the Big Bad Gummint wants to hand out $3 in subsidies to wealthy corporations like G.E. and Lockheed-Martin for every $1 it gives out in social welfare, that's just fine with me!

> I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit.

Because if I were in touch with my feelings, I'd realize that I'm an ignorant, mean-spirited fuckwad that nobody with a triple-digit I.Q. wants a thing to do with.

> I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, Ice-> T, or Marilyn Manson sang.

My god, we actually agree on something! Will wonders never cease?

> I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer.

I also think that keeping your gun where your tormented, ostracized 14-year-old can find it, bring it to school, and blow his tormenters away doesn't make you a killer either.

> I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason.

I believe Matthew Shepard was tied to a fence and beaten to death for the same reason.

> I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized.

I do, however, think being a white male makes you victimized. After all, how much opportunity for advancement have white males ever had in America?

> I don't celebrate Kwanzaa.

Hell, I can't even spell it!

> I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it
> in English.

And I don't give a flying fuck that it takes 400 gallons of water to produce enough meat for just one Big Mac. What's it to me if a bunch of niggers in Africa die of thirst because of my fat, greedy ass?

> I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for
> unpopular opinions or actions.

Congratulations, Mr. Six-Pack! That's the second point of yours with which I can agree.

> I think Oprah is a big fat pig.

I think Rush Limbaugh is a lying, manipulative corporate whore.

> I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.

I also think they should be legal for the next two weeks after 4th of July so I can come home drunk at 3:00 in the morning and set 'em off in the backyard. And if my neighbors don't like it, fuck 'em!

> I think that being a student doesn't give you any more
> enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In
> fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass
> through 4-7 years of senior high school, you haven't begun to be
> enlightened.

And of course, everyone that's ever been to college is a pansy-ass who thinks he knows everything. That's why I'm so fuckin' proud of my ignorance, goddammit!

> I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite
> or fat-free on the package.

Agreement #3.

> I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God or gods,
> just leave the rest of us out of it. This > also applies to
> sexuality.

Considering how insecure I am about my manhood, I certainly don't want some out-of-the-closet fairy coming along and making me feel even less like a “real man.”

> Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian.

Hillary-bashers are frightened little boys whose brains stopped maturing about the time they got their first hard-on.

> My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr.
> Quinn: Medicine Woman.

My heroes are Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Ralph Nader, and whoever cancelled Rush Limbaugh's TV show. And if you had a fucking brain in your head, you’d realize that The Simpsons rakes jerk-offs like you over the coals!

> I don't hate the rich.

Even if they pay less in taxes than I do.

> I don't pity the poor.

Even if 20 million of them are children under the age of five.

> I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about
> it.

I have more important things to argue about, like flag-burning and who's gonna win on "The Next Joe Millionaire."

> I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts
> now, when I am freezing my ass through > a long winter?

Of course global warming is a lie! That's why the Worldwatch Institute reports that Arctic sea ice has thinned by 40% in less than 30 years.

> I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty
> years in the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't
> burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither
> have you, so shut-the-fuck-up already.

I've never burned the American flag, sucked another man's dick, owned a foreign car, called someone a murderer for eating meat, or claimed that communism was good and neither have you, so shut the fuck up already.

> I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jesse
> Jackson preaches. And where does he get his money? And why is he
> always part of the problem and not the solution?

You could have asked the same thing about white reverends like Jerry Falwell, Donald Wildmon, and Pat Robertson. But I notice you didn't.

> I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if
> you're running from them.

Especially if you're not white and you're carrying something that resembles a gun, like a wallet or a Three Musketeers bar.

> I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you are
> breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

Furthermore, the cops have the right to kick your door in, frighten your wife and kids, confiscate your property, and throw you in jail without actually charging you with a crime—all because they suspect you might be a drug dealer.

> I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't
> want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation
> in the world for the next four years.

In fact, why vote at all? The Supreme Court will do it for you!

> I worry about dying before I get even.

That's too stupid to even warrant a reply.

> I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell
> me crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their
> cause. These people should be targets.

Got news for you, Brainiac: those people *are* targets! Ever heard of Seattle, Quebec City, or Genoa?



I still can’t believe a person who has known me (albeit only via the Internet) for five years would send me that thing!

[Catherine Vincent]

55. Reminds me of that a-hole on cspan the other day that said:

"If the white man were to drop off the face of the earth tomorrow, 500 years from now, the blacks will still be blaming the white man for their problems."

[NMDemDist2]

69. arghhhh

:argh:

[AspenRose]

74. Let's look at that quote differently

"If Democrats were to drop off the face of the earth tomorrow, 500 years from now, the Republicans will still be blaming Clinton for their problems."

Turnabout is fair play.

[GSL]

58. baby-squirting crack addicts ?

cool phrase... it would be a great name for an alternative band.

The sad thing is that many people really believe that welfare money goes solely to these recipients. There are probably are a portion of crack addict mothers on welfare, but unfortunately they have become larger-than-life in the rotten view of the republicans... "we could afford a new house, if only it weren't for those baby-squirting crack addicts."

How do you argue with these scum.

[boobooday]

60. The Power of Pride, eh?

We're so damn proud to be Amurikans!

But PRIDE goeth before a fall! #1 on the list of seven deadly sins!



http://www.wgoeshome.com

[bluestateguy]

61. Um, I don't think John Kerry's campaign will be targeting her

Mr. Bush, you can have this person's vote.

[spanone]

63. Move, change your name, get an unlisted number.

[bloom]

71. start sending her liberal stuff and/or anti-Bush* stuff

That is what I did with my sister-in-law and she was begging for a truce. :)



(See the "links directory" for lots of good dirt).

[DaveSZ]

72. Jeanine Garofolo was right

These people are the new KKK.

[fourfoot]

87. Blah Blah Blah

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

76. Her reply

"oh for God's sake....there were a couple of things I thought were funny in there and I didn't write the fucking thing...I thought the part about the voting machines was especially funny. Get over it!"

My reply to that:
Nope, not going to get over it. Didn't find a single funny thing in there. Thought you knew me better than that. Of course, I guess I could have listened to your brother when he said that it wasn't worth responding to such garbage and that I shouldn't let it bother me. Well, I can't help the fact that it bothers me a lot when people forward hate filled mindless garbage and then other people believe it because they don't know any better.

I choose to be actively involved in my government and country. Changing minds to benefit all of us is something that I take very seriously. If you don't like my reply then don't send me that crap, simple as that.

[Catherine Vincent]

80. That was a great reply to your sister in law.

So she thought it was funny and didn't write the thing. But does she realize the damage she does when she spread it around? Some people just don't think.

[drdtroit]

78. Didn't know

internet access was available in the trailer parks! :shrug:

[Kid_A]

79. HELL YEAH!!

Oh, wait... that guy's a stupid jackass.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

88. Just one more

I got 2 replies from the "reply to all", one was telling me off for hitting the "reply to all" although he did agree that the email was crap. The second was as quoted below:

"Damned right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Way to go Matcom!

[matcom]

90. LMAO!

:thumbsup:

[Misunderestimator]

89. I got that very same e-mail from my brother over a year ago...

I reamed him a new one in reply... and I haven't spoken to him since.