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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:32 AM
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Daily Kos: CCR to sue Iraq mercenary outfits
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 06:39 AM by iconoclastic cat
CCR to sue Iraq mercenary outfits
by kos
Wed Jun 9th, 2004 at 02:45:11 EDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/6/9/24511/57794
The Center for Constitutional Rights, the outfit representing the Gitmo detainees, will announce a RICO lawsuit against the CACI and TITAN mercenary outfits. The two companies former a joint "Team Titan" to provide "interrogation" services to the US military.

These are the Abu Grahib post-Saddam torturers.

The lawsuit will rest, at least in part (leaked details are sketchy), on the Alien Tort Claims Act, which allows non-US nationals access to U.S. courts. The Bush Administration has requested the Supreme Court rule this law, passed by the first Congress, unconstitutional. RICO statutes and the 14th Amendment promise to play a role as well.

The official announcement will come at 1 p.m. EST Wednesday. Expect some media attention.

Incidentally, CCR has also posted the full "the president is king and can subvert US law in regards to torture" memo. This is the same memo that Ashcroft refused to release to angry Democratic senators.
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--Um, is anyone else freaked out by the fact that pages are missing?

--Further down, someone linked to a Discourse.net explanation of the first half of the memo:
http://www.discourse.net/archives/2004/06/apologia_pro_tormento_analyzing_the_first_56_pages_of_the_walker_working_group_report_aka_the_torture_memo.html

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--Also, a PDF of the memo:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/military_0604.pdf

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--We should all be concerned that this stuff will fall down the memory hole:
Spread the word (none / 0)

The memo is key, absolutely key. We here on dKos sometimes forget, in our useful and insightful conversations with each other, to share the things we learn here with our friends and neighbors who don't check blogs, whose connection to the news and events is a few minutes of the Today show caught on the way to work in the morning. Explain to them the memo, what it says, what it means, and how the administration tried to bury it, in simple and non-snarky terms. Just lay it out, straightforwardly. No need to spin it, it spins itself. American would be shocked and appalled if they knew of this, and if they weren't, it'd add one more level of cognitive dissonance that will eventually come apart once Bush's remaining supporters have too much complexity to deal with.

Particularly with Reagan dominating the news this week, we MUST ensure this does not slip under the radar. Tell everyone you know about this. Perhaps direct them to the CCR website for more info. This will grow legs only if we make them grow via our activism.

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--And, for me, the most salient point:
Is Bush's signature anywhere? (none / 0)

The memos seem to stress the idea of releasing our bad actors from potential liability by way of presidential authorization. Does this mean Bush's signature might actually be floating around somewhere on a torture authorization memo just waiting to be leaked by someone? Would this be an undeniable, irrefutable smoking gun? (BTW, I realize there's enough current evidence for a sane person to conclude that these evil-doers should be put away for good, but it seems like nothing short of a video of W pushing the plunger on the WTC will wake people up).

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--There are also some connections to the push by Bush to reform Tort law to protect a president! Yikes.

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Now, if DUers can show up at a stupid online poll by the tens of thousands, then pushing this issue should not be a problem.

Thanks for sticking with this very long post!


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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:53 AM
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1. Uh, hello? Did anyone read this?
Wow, look---tumbleweeds!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:56 AM
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2. WHOA!
I heard about the possible use of the Alien Claims Tort Act wrt Gitmo, but I didn't realize it was this far along...

Amazingly great news... we need to keep this visible and pass this information along!!!!

Thanks so much for posting this! :D
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:56 AM
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3. At first glance....
... I was scratching my head, trying to figure out why Creedence Clearwater Revival would be suing Iraqi mercenary outfits...

Sorry. I'll go back to being serious now. :D
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:58 AM
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4. me too.
I thought Gee, Iraq really is Vietnam!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:44 PM
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13. Understand completely, Jen - I'm feeling rather slap-happy today, too.
Must be all the morbidity in the air.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 02:09 PM
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16. Yep, I thought Creedence also!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:34 PM
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5. Keep this kicked...it's really important. Some of us on "dial-up"
couldn't access the leaked memo from the MSNBC site. Hopefully this will work. Thanks for the links and info.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:53 PM
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6. Kick
:kick:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:09 PM
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7. So soon? *sigh*
:kick:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:21 PM
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8. Either everyones reading it now....or "Reagan Fugue" has descended on DU
:eyes:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:30 PM
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9. Well I won't be around to kick it for a while
Wonder what page it'll be on when I return. :(
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 02:10 PM
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17. Oh well, I'll help kick it.
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Null Pointer Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:36 PM
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10. Creedence Clearwater Revival
is suing Titan?!!!

Looks like John Fogarty will have to put his tour on hold...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:41 PM
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11. Any word on media attention?
Dare I hope?
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:42 PM
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12. Wow-- and absolutely the correct course of action
I hope ACLU et al join this suit too.

This is big.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:45 PM
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14. Yes, it is big.
Much much much too big to deserve so few responses...
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:45 PM
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15. Wow, so many scandals erupting
I didn't think anyone'd have the balls to directly take on the Hessians.

The people who brought this lawsuit better watch out. These companies are full of remorseless, cruel murderers and I have no doubt that someone might get "whacked" or beaten.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 02:19 PM
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18. Damn - I thought it was credence clearwater revival
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 02:35 PM
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19. How many more scandals can there possibly be
and how many more scandals can the mainstream media possibly ignore? Did anybody report on the the Ashcroft - contempt of congress thing yesterday or was it all raygun all the time?
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:50 PM
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20. Maybe I should have altered the headline...
Should I alter the headline and re-post it?
Do the mods have any advice?
Kos has posted some very important stuff on that thread, and I think more people need to read it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 02:51 PM
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21. Didn't see a new thread
so I'll just kick this one again.

:kick:

Heard about this on NPR, will be interesting to see how it progresses.
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