Amazing Article from a Very Right Wing Site

[mourningdove92]

ELECTION 2004
Giuliani to replace
Cheney on ticket?
Bush camp considers switch leading to NYC convention
WASHINGTON – There are whispers among high-level political advisers to President Bush suggesting the possibility of replacing Dick Cheney with former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani as the vice presidential running mate prior to the Republican National Convention in New York beginning Aug. 30.

Cheney, who has no aspirations to run for president in 2008 and has had well-publicized heart problems, has been involved in the discussions and is open to the idea if it strengthens the ticket and helps position a viable Republican candidate to succeed Bush, sources tell WND.


Giuliani, as well as New York Gov. George Pataki, has been expected to play a starring role at the convention. Both are also considered possible presidential candidates in 2008. Securing the vice presidential nomination, however, would instantly make Giuliani the front-runner among all potential Republican candidates
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38858

Normally I would not post something from this site, but this one I just had to!!!!!

[Delano]

1. That's a scary proposition.

Giuliani has broad appeal to moderates and could cinch the election.

I hope Giuliani's patriotism would win out and he would refuse to join the ticket. I'd like to think that he, like a lot of other moderate repubs, knows that 4 more years of Bush would be disastrous for this country.

[ramapo]

8. Patriotism over power?

If asked, Rudy will run. He could even make NY/NJ competitive.

[kofijoe]

10. Have you listened to the guy....

...he's got his nose way up GW's butt. He'd accept in a second. And I agree, that would make the ticket virtually unbeatable.

[VolcanoJen]

2. Oh, how I hope they do nominate Rudy "Family Values" Giuliani!

That would be rich, wouldn't it?

Bring it on... although I still think they're going to dump Cheney in favor of Tom Ridge, not Rudy Giuliani.

[Justice]

5. Between Family Values and Stem Cell Research

I can see Bush getting boxed in.

I remember talking with someone last year who made a wisecrack about Clinton and Monica. I said to the guy, well consider Rudy in NYC, living at Gracie Mansion with his wife and young children, bringing in his mistress to be with him in the family home. Yet Rudy is the right's hero - but same thing as Clinton. He said, no it is not - I said, yeah it is - same thing. He said, yeah it is.

This approach allows you to make the point without getting into whether it was right or not to do (not judgmental).

Rudy is too moderate for the RWers.

Also, there are alot of people that will hear Nancy Reagan's pleas for more stem cell reseach -- and they will vote against Bush because Bush won't do it. If Bush changes the rules, he will lose his base.

He is boxed in.

[VolcanoJen]

14. Exactly. And, it's important to note that most people who live outside...

... NYC are not aware of Rudy's philandering. Many Americans have absolutely no idea about the Gracie Mansion issue, for example, but they sure wouldn't be able to keep a lid on it if he ends up on the ticket. I'm certain that Rove is keenly aware of Rudy's shortcomings.

[earthside]

6. What a laugh ...

Nominate the old adulterer Giuliani?

That would be pretty funny coming from the 'family values' party. I think Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell would veto that idea.

Remember, Mrs. Giuliani kicked Rudy out of Gracie Mansion because of his adultery! I'd love to see George and Laura explain how that makes Giuliani acceptable as vice president of the "moral certainty" administration.

As to Tom Ridge ... Georgie would never let himself be upstaged by a man that looks like a man and who actually served in the regular military.

No, I think George and Dick will go down together, arm-in-arm, embracing each other tightly as the flames lick at their feet.

[kofijoe]

12. That's where I disagree...

with this train of thought. Don't you think the Falwell/Robertson crowd would cave in a second if they could have 4 more years of GW instead of Kerry. I do.

[caledesi]

16. Agree. Giuliani has too much baggage. Can we saw mistress?

That he brought to the mansion when his WIFE and SON were living there. Family values? Yeah, right.

edit: typo

[radfringe]

3. got a better idea

how about nominating Reagan for bush*'s vp...

now I know that Reagan is dead, but think about it the precedent set in the 2000 election --- ashcroft lost to a deadman

another bonus is that there is no worry about leaks from the VP office -- dead men tell no tales

[earthside]

13. Better yet ...

Here's an idea fitting with the tenor of the times.

Dick Cheney could rename himself "Ronald Reagan" in honor of Ronald Reagan!

Then you would have a Bush-Reagan ticket ... that would undoubtedly please Barbara Bush because a Reagan would be in second place.

And the Republicans could then go out and campaign to win one for the 'honorary Gipper"!!!

I tell you, as I am sitting here thinking about this ... I know this is exactly what is going to happen.

[H2O Man]

4. Interesting article.

Thanks for the link. It looks like former Governor Cuomo sees it as a strong possibility. I, for one, hope they keep Cheney. It would be in poor taste for bush to drop him simply because he will be indicted on the CIA-outting.

[ramapo]

7. It'd be a real smart move

I'll be surprised if Cheney stays. Replacing Cheney with Rudy would definitely strenghten the ticket.

The decision might rest on who Kerry picks. If they feel Kerry's pick isn't hat strong then Cheney stays. If they sense a fight, Cheney may go.

[H2O Man]

11. Good point.

The democratic candidate for VP may play a greater role in November than any in the past. I think that a Wesley Clark or a John Edwards would force the republican's hand. I wonder if Rudy would recognize that it is in his self-interest to not join a bush ticket?

[Tummler]

9. Millions of right-wing fundamentalists will stay home on election day

...if ANY pro-choicer, even the "heroic" Giuliani, is on the Republican ticket. Alternatively, they'll show up to vote for a third-party candidate like Roy Moore. Abortion is an absolute, nonnegotiable litmus test for the anti-abortion-rights crowd, just as it is for many on the other side.

I don't think Giuliani would bring in enough independents to make up for the fracturing of Bush's base. Actually, unless Giuliani could deliver NY (highly unlikely), I doubt he'd have much of a positive impact at all. Bush is too polarizing of a figure for a stunt like this to change the dynamics of the race.

Of course, that doesn't mean Bush isn't stupid and arrogant enough to try it anyway.

[NashVegas]

15. and who's going to replace BUSH?

After today's news article in LBN about the Bin Laden flights, I'm convinced that someone is trying to send a message to * to stand down.