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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:15 PM
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So how does everyone feel about U.S. screwing the Kurds again?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0610/p01s03-woiq.html

I really HATE being a part of this.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:17 PM
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1. Isn't this how treaties are always done by the power elite:
set ups for the next round of conflicts? That way the war machine keeps making the money and people keep dying and suffering. It's how they want it.
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wirenut Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:41 PM
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9. Interim Govt?
Didn't the Iraqis just setup there own interim govt? Did they not set this up themselves?
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:21 PM
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2. Thanks for Posting This, Patrice.
There are at least a few of us here who realize that this entire fabricated lie called Iraq will not work and will only survive until possibly the U.S. elections in November.

The Kurds are being railroaded into another imposed impossible situation.

I have outlined here at the DU the only solution that I see that has even an outside chance of preventing the upcoming Civil War there which includes a free and independent Kurdistan.

Thanks for weighing in on their behalf.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:31 PM
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6. Even my staunchly Libertarian husband is ranting.
And, BELIEVE ME, he has no love for either party.
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Borknagar Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:23 PM
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3. ttt
ttt
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:27 PM
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4. An enormous lack of surprise...?
:eyes:
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PragMantisT Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:27 PM
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5. What were they thinking?
That'll teach 'em. Better to keep the scumbag you already know than help another scumbag take his place.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:36 PM
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7. The Kurds
A Military unit of the Kurds found Saddam and in lue of being given the $30 Million Bounty were promised something. It was never reported what that was. Perhaps, the Kurds should sue for the $30 Mill now?

There will never be an Independent state in N. Iraq for the Kurds because Turkey will not allow it.

The "new" govt. of Iraq is a pure Puppet Govt. and will be such even after their elections in Jan 2005, if those actually stranspire. The US has wrapped up this arrangement and the largest Embassy on the planet will be built in Iraq and 14 Military bases will be built.

I have posted the following many times and will keep doing so until I get told enough already!

Full Sovereignty?
Throughout the spring, as hundreds died in the spiraling conflict, as Regime bosses applied their hardcore "anti-terrorist" tortures to innocent bystanders raked up in their occupation nets, as Regime mouthpieces prated endlessly of "liberation" and "sovereignty," Bush viceroy Paul Bremer was quietly signing a series of edicts that will give the United States effective control over the military, ministries -- and money -- of any Iraqi government, for years to come, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Bremer has placed U.S.-appointed "commissions" made up of Americans and local puppets throughout Iraqi government agencies; the ministers supposedly in charge weren't even told of the edicts. These boards "will serve multiyear terms and have significant authority to run criminal investigations, award contracts, direct troops and subpoena citizens," the Journal reports. Any new Iraqi government "will have little control over its armed forces, lack the ability to make or change laws and be unable to make major decisions within specific ministries without tacit U.S. approval, say U.S. officials."


"Earlier Bremer edicts laid the Iraqi economy wide open to ruthless exploitation by Bush-approved foreign "investors"; dominance of such key sectors as banking, communications -- and energy -- is already well advanced. The latest dictates aim to ensure that this organized looting goes on, no matter what kind of makeshift "interim government" the United Nations manage to piece together. Bush's plans to build a Saddamite fortress embassy in Baghdad and 14 permanent military bases around the country are designed to provide the knee-breaking "security" for these lucrative arrangements."



http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/05/21/120.html

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:37 PM
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8. Is anyone surprised? This was discussed over and over and over
before the invasion of Iraq. There was absolutely NO WAY that the Kurds were gonna come out of this with anything because they were the underdog in this whole situation. And when bush* needed them, he used them. Now that it's payback time, he's dumping them like a bad habit. And it was just inevitable. They are the odd man out, a people who want a home, but just don't have the support of anyone who will see to it that they do. Those oil fields are a big problem. The Iraqi goverment aren't ever going to let go of the North because of that. And then there's the other countries who have a Kurdish population. They don't want them getting riled and uppity thinking that they should be allowed to expect self-determination.

In the end, the Kurds will be a big problem. Especially if they're sick and tired of the same old shit and decide to unite and try to carve out a homeland and a say in the government. Then you'll see some drastic action in the Empire of Bush & Co.
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