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zls44 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:17 PM
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The Confederate National Anthem
Anyone else have a BIT of a problem with the song choice????
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:19 PM
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1. did they have one?
...an official one. I know that Dixie is the unofficial one....
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:20 PM
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2. The Battle Hymn of the Republic was the Union's song
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 06:22 PM by AZDemDist6
not the confederate i believe
Edit to add

In 1861, after a visit to a Union Army camp, Julia Ward Howe wrote the poem that came to be called "The Battle Hymn of the Republic." It was published in February, 1862, in The Atlantic Monthly.

Howe reported in her autobiography that she wrote the verses to meet a challenge by a friend, Rev. James Freeman Clarke. As an unofficial anthem, Union soldiers sang "John Brown's Body." Confederate soldiers sang it with their own version of the words. But Clarke thought that there should be more uplifting words to the tune.

http://womenshistory.about.com/library/etext/bl_howe_battle_hymn.htm
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zls44 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:21 PM
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3. Well never mind then
Whoops. My mistake.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:22 PM
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4. I hate to exhibit my ignorance but what is the Confederate Anthem
I know of Dixie but not sure it is the official anthem.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:56 PM
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11. the Confederate States of America never actually had an
official anthem that I can find
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:18 PM
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15. This was about the best I could find.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:30 PM
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5. You mean Freebird?
?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:31 PM
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6. Wasn't it Dixie?
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:37 PM
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7. God Save the South
God Save the South

Rebels before, our fathers of yore.
Rebel's the righteous name Washington bore.
Why, then, be ours the same,
The name that he snatched from shame,
Making it first in fame, foremost in war.


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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 01:11 PM
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19. It looks like God Save The South is the most likely.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:41 PM
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8. Dixie ... I'm pretty sure ...

Thats what Ole Miss uses. So it MUST be the confederate anthem!!!!

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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 01:39 PM
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20. The only hole I can see in that theory is that the song was...
...written by a black man. :)
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billhos Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:46 PM
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9. Actually
If I remember correctly the official song had something about "hurrah, hurrah hurrah for the bonnie blue. hurrah for the girl i left behind." or something too that effect. I do not remember the name of the song or any other words.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:54 PM
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10. are you thinking of "Bonnie Blue Flag" ??
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 06:54 PM by AZDemDist6
The Bonnie Blue Flag
by Harry McCarthy
We are a band of brothers, and native to the soil,
Fighting for the property we gained by honest toil;
And when our rights were threatened, the cry rose near and far:
"Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star!"

(Chorus)
Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Southern rights, hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

http://www.civilwarmusic.net/display_song.php?song=bonnieblue

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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:07 PM
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13. There are probably as many different anthems as there are...
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TexasMexican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:03 PM
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12. Meh who cares about the Confederacy
Texas > the rest of the confederacy. :P
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:08 PM
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14.  From the movie "The Last Outlaw"
Also Jerry Garcia
Played by an unnamed bluegrass band with Garcia on banjo at an unknown venue in Burlingame in January 1962.

The Unreconstructed Rebel

O, I'm a good old Rebel,
Now, that's just what I am;
For this "Fair land of Freedom"
I do not care a damn.
I am glad I fit against it-
I only wish we'd won,
And I don't want no pardon
For anything I done.

I hates the Constitution,
The great Republic, too;
I hate the Freedmen's buro
In uniforms of blue;
I hate the nasty eagle,
With all his brag and fuss,
And the lyin' thievin' Yankees,
I hates 'em wuss and wuss.

I hates the Yankee nation
And everything they do;
I hates the Declaration
Of Independence, too;
I hates the striped banner-
'Tis dripping with our blood;
I hates the glorious Union-
I fit it all I could.

I followed old Mas' Robert
For four years, near about;
Got wounded in three places,
And starved at Point Lookout;
I cotched the rheumatism
A-campin' in the snow,
But I killed a chance o' Yankees-
I'd like to kill some mo'.

Three hundred thousand Yankees
Is stiff in Southern dust;
We got three hundred thousand
Before they conquered us.
They died of Southern fever
And Southern steel and shot-
I wish there was three million
Instead of what we got.

I can't take up my musket
And fight 'em now no more,
Now that is sartin, sure;
And I don't want no pardon,
For Reb I was and am,
I won't be reconstructed,
And I don't care a damn.

From the ...
The Grateful Dead Family Discography


Words by Major Innes Randolph. The source of the tune is unknown. Possibly written at the end of the 19th century. It was published with a connected article in Collier's Weekly on the 4th April 1914. The song possibly also occurs as The Unreconstructed Rebel and The Song of the Rebel Soldier. Maybe also the same song as I Don't Want A Pardon.

On circulating tapes of the Burlingame show the song is often listed as I'm A Rebel but this is not the correct title. The song is introduced apologetically at the Burlingame show with the assurance that it does not express their own opinions - the lyrics explain why;

http://www.deaddisc.com/songs/Good_Old_Rebel.htm

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:46 PM
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16. "I'm a Good Old Rebel" by Ry Cooder, on his "Long Riders" soundtrack
Yet another name for the same song. The soundtrack also included "Rally Round the Flag" for the other side. And an arrangement of "Jesse James" that Elvis Costello loved so well that he copied it note for note on The Pogues' "Rum, Sodomy & The Lash". (Or maybe the Pogues copied it.)

Anyway, the "Long Riders" soundtrack is prime Cooder--traditional & original tunes, excellent players.

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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:58 PM
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17. Now this made me lol."Rum, Sodomy & The Lash". Thanks!! n/t
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:38 PM
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18. OMG
This song (from the The Pogues' "Rum, Sodomy & The Lash") had me crying like a baby. I have friends in Australia who when we first visited them explained that the term "waltzing Matilda" was a metaphor for death

AND THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATILDA
http://www.pogues.com/Releases/Lyrics/LPs/RumSodomy/Waltzing.html
Thanks for the heads up on the Pogues.


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