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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:19 PM
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I'm impressed by the funeral/ceremony
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 06:21 PM by sgr2
All former Presidents should be buried this way. Though I'm no fan of Reagan, it is fitting for him to receive this kind of tribute. I disagree with those who choose to demonize the whole thing, but it's just a difference in opinion.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:19 PM
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1. this isn't the funeral, this is just moving the body from CA to DC eom
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:20 PM
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3. true - I kinda forgot that - so what the hell is this I'm watching?
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:20 PM
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6. Yeah, but I don't care
I still think it's a very nice thing.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:37 PM
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24. No. This is not American.
This is becoming increasingly inappropriate.
This is much more like an old Soviet Union style funeral.
This is the kind of funeral the Communists had for for Stalin and Brezhenev.

You know they buried President Kennedy in three days. He was a sitting president - his unexpected death DID mean immediate change for everyone living in this country. Reagan has been out of office for SIXTEEN YEARS!

The accolades and unrebutted praise for this MAN is not in the tradition of a democracy that believes that all human beings are created equal. Reagan was not better than you or me. In fact, he was probably worse considering how many thousands of innocent people he allowed or ordered killed in Central America, East Timor, and the Middle East.

So this is NOT nice.
Indeed, this funeral extravaganza is positively un-American.
And it is getting just plain creepy.

More proof that there is something seriously wrong with the soul of this nation.

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:43 PM
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27. Sigh
> This is much more like an old Soviet Union style funeral.

Were their funerals as slow as this monstrosity? Could those damn guys in their fancy uniforms move any slower? It's just a hunk of rotting meat in a box. It's taking them a ridiculously long time to get the thing over with. I've already stated for my funeral to have a 10 minute graveside service. That is appropriate. This crap isn't.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:13 PM
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48. Randi Rhodes said something today like...
..."they should just BURY him, unless they think he's coming BACK"...

You're right..."it is getting just plain creepy"...and after you hear Dubya perform the last rights on Friday, you'll experience "creepy" in a whole new way.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:38 PM
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25. I'm so confused.
Television says "State Funeral." "Your tv is lying." Thanks Sam amd Janeane!
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:19 PM
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2. the funeral can suck my motherfuckin'
...naw it's actually alright....
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:20 PM
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4. I think the funeral is really going to be on Friday, isnt it?
These are just the preliminarys.

And, yes, it would be nice if all Presidents where bured this way. Its fitting for the leaders of our empire.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:12 PM
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36. I would hope that when Clinton dies, everybody gets behind a
whole week of Clinton stuff, too. RIGHT, rush? RIGHT, sean? RIGHT, frist/delay? RIGHT, bar?
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:20 PM
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5. Has the funeral already started?
Will it last through the weekend?
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Stew225 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:22 PM
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10. Do you think it would be inappropriate to
attend the funeral wearing clown shoes? Just wondered.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:24 PM
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13. Why not? I'll bet a lot of people will show up in T-shirts & flip flops
....perhaps some low-rider jeans.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:21 PM
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7. It is overkill.
Sorry for the pun.

But isn't enough enough? Good God we have another two days of this, it is ridiculous!
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:31 PM
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21. What?
No weekend wrap up?

:evilgrin:
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:44 PM
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29. Right you are, then the miniseries!
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 06:44 PM by Timefortruth
We've only just begun.
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:21 PM
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8. Pretty Impressive.
But someone needs to tell them the record got stuck about 10 minutes ago...or is that the only song they know?
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RoBear Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:22 PM
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9. Sorry, Can't agree.
The man was evil, and that deserves no such adulation.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:23 PM
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11. I agree, thanks for posting this.
It is up to each President...they are all entitled to this type of funeral.

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CityZen-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:24 PM
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12. Orchestrated To Obscure
This presentation has been over orchestrated as in "obscured by clouds" to the real demanding issues of this day. And that is the machinations of this Bu$h*t criminal government!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:24 PM
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14. 44 million to close government in nyc alone
how much is this costing. what about those hungry people that just want something to eat but half of our society says no, we cant afford to feed you. to me this has become gross.

it is like here in the panhandle of texas, we all stop a half hour and let a funeral procession by, but an ambulance comes thru and how dare they get in our way, stop for a crosswalk no way
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:57 PM
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33. That's icing on the cake for folks like Grover: it helps bankrupt
local and state governments more quickly.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:25 PM
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15. It's too reminescent of a monarchy.
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 06:26 PM by Lex
.
He's not the King, and this ain't Britain.

The wonderful thing about this country is that after their time in office, they become regular citizens again.

A nice, solemn respectful funeral with dignitaries and the like, is all we should really seek for former presidents, imho.

The founding fathers would not be amused with this crap.


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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:42 PM
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42. He wasn't called King Ronnie fer nuttin'
"The founding fathers would not be amused with this crap. "

Absolutely true, and they would be dumbfounded and ticked that the USians are in so much hurry to find a substitute for royalty. If the average folks on the street didn't want this, it wouldn't be happening. We're complicit.

Kanary, watching Casablanca instead...... :)
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:02 PM
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46. This is What I Was Thinking
I think an ex-President deserves a formal send-off, but we're getting dangerously close to King of England territory now. I mean, this IS America, we specifically do not have a monarch, and it's not like he got mowed down in office.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:26 PM
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16. He was afterall the President of the United States
I will never say that about Bush*. Reagan was elected and admired by more than half the nation. He deserves a fitting send off.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:29 PM
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20. Agreed....
He was elected not once, but twice, in overwhelming landslides. I don't personally care much for the man. But, he deserves this.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:28 PM
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17. He's unleashed the fateful fury of His terrible swift sword
his truth is marching on...
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:29 PM
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18. Nixon's was much nicer
more dignified, understated, respectful and because it was understated it had a warmer more intimate air about it.
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lonewolf0507 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:29 PM
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19. I agree
I am definately now a fan of the Reagans, but our military personnel has proven once again they are true professionals.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:32 PM
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22. It looks awfully damn obscene to me.
:grr:
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CityZen-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:36 PM
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23. Definitely Obscene!
This scum of the Earth does not deserve such an event. It only shows to the world that we idolize world criminals!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:42 PM
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26. I'm watching it with the sound down
It is very dignified.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:44 PM
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28. I'm with you.
I think it's fitting and proper that we should honor the office of President in this manner. For good or ill, he was the twice-elected POTUS, and deserving of a state funeral.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:36 PM
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40. Not me, these are just men and its a job.
I am not a royal subject. I don't need a whole week to morn a man who did a job he was damn lucky to get. I owe them nothing, they owe us everything.

This is cult like and reminds me of what they do in dictatorships and in the old USSR. China probably has a more dignified method of send off than what we are looking at. This is like Chairman Moa's send off.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:49 PM
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30. Gimme a break....
The victims of Reagan's death squads were found dead by their families, their bodies left with their genitals in their mouths and their hands cut off.

Fuck that evil bastard!
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:50 PM
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31. I think this is an insult to JFK
too many people don't remember or weren't around when JFK was killed in office. It was so very appropriate then to have this type of ceremony. There is something basically crazy about doing this for a 93 year old man (we all have to die sometime) and one who was not totally in his right mind when he was in the Oval Office. They should have had an abbreviated ceremony.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:52 PM
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32. Why?
He was elected President twice, after all. Isn't he entitled?

:shrug:
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:41 PM
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41. No he is not entitled.
No one is entitled to this kind of thing. He is entitled to be remebered for what he did which was horrible.

Funerals are for the living. After JFK I think we needed a serious intense moment of reflection and coming together. This is just an old guy who died a long time after he was our president. This is nothing more than a propaganda assualt with the intent to bolster a vission of a man and the country that is false.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:07 PM
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34. i agree JFK's funeral was solemn and appropriate
not a week long love fest for a man who hasn't had ANY place on the public stage in over 10 years.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:21 PM
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38. My CBS affiliate made the comparison this morning.
I've been avoiding the news shows but tuned in to check on the weather. Their correspondent was standing in front of the Capitol.

Point by point, he compared the situation to JFK's death. Jackie vs. Nancy? John-John saluting vs. no children (apparently no grandchildren)? Finally, a standing president murdered in his prime vs. the end of a man whose body had already outlived his mind. The whole segment was far from Reagan-worship.

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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:09 PM
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47. Johnson was also in state in the Capital Rotunda
I don't remember it specifically, but I've heard it mentioned on the news in the last few days.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:08 PM
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35. trotting his corpse around for a week??
it's a f***ing whorefest; it is sickening.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:23 PM
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39. I'm with you . . .
This is way too much . . . especially for a minor President like Reagan who caused a lot more harm than good . . .

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:00 PM
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45. My mother reminded me of when her aunt died
Auntie Liz died on a Tuesday and was buried on Friday. It was August and very hot and the air conditioner at the funeral home broke the day of the wake. The funeral director was getting concerned about the body (even with embalming). Mom's has been wondering if they'll need air fresheners at the Cathederal if they don't get him in the ground soon.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:15 PM
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37. Now it's become ponderous and lame
It's become like idolatry...

Maybe we are becoming a banana republic...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:45 PM
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43. What do you mean "becoming"?
:)
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:55 PM
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44. At the rate they're going
I'm surprised they don't put the body in a glass casket and leave it on permanent display like Lenin. I'll be surprised if they don't haul him up to the Republican convention.
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