No to Nader

[louis c]

For those of you posting pro-Nader Bullshit, Here's two facts for you to ponder. If you're not unwittingly doing the dirty work for the Repukes, why aren't there any Nader for Prez threads on freepers. You know why, because Nader only takes votes from us, leaving them laughing. If there is no difference between Kerry and Bush, and they are both Corporate lackey's, why is it every major Union in America is behind Kerry. You know why? Because there is a difference. The difference is in work place safety, tax breaks to encourage companies to go overseas, health ins., job training, unemployment comp., arbitration and court appointments, where worker/management conflicts are resolved. It's not just a coincidence that Mass. is a strong Union state and Texas and Fla. are anti-Union. It is important that we defeat Bush. If Nader is at 45%, Bush 41%, and Kerry 6%, I'll be the biggest Nader supporter you ever saw. But I live in the real world where real people are getting really fucked over, and anyone who can't see that is either hopelessly naive or a plant from the other side.

[Massacure]

1. Damn strait!

NO TO NADER
NO TO NADER

*SING WITH ME*

NO TO NADER
NO TO NADER
NO TO NADER
NO TO NADER
NO TO NADER

[TrueAmerican]

2. I guess they don't realize this is the DemocraticUnderground

They must of mistaken this place for www.selfishbastard.com

[kalian]

11. Didn't know it was "self-serving" democrats....

maybe its you who misinterprets the website's name.... :shrug:

[TrueAmerican]

12. No, it's a website for Democrats

Not a website to support the enemies of Democrats.

[Forkboy]

13. Who is supporting our enemies?

can you name more than 2 people on DU that would fit that bill?

[TrueAmerican]

18. People who support Nader

He is an enemy of the Democratic Party.

[Forkboy]

19. How's that list coming TA?

:shrug:

[TrueAmerican]

20. READ THE RULES!

"WHO IS WELCOME ON DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND, AND WHO IS NOT

We welcome Democrats of all stripes, along with other progressives who will work with us to achieve our shared goals."


Our shared goal is to defeat Bush. By supporting Nader, you are supporting Bush.

So these disruptors are not following the rules.

Thank you, Very much!

[Forkboy]

21. I know the rules

Who are these supporters of Nader?

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[Forkboy]

25. So you can't name any?

I'd put me on ignore to if I couldn't answer a simple question.

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[Forkboy]

32. I think Pastiche is a her

I dont know if she's voting for Nader or not.If so,that's one whole poster.Hardly an epidemic :shrug:

FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[Pastiche423]

35. Pastiche423 ain't a "he"

Oh and btw, I voted for Gore in 2000 and I am not voting for Nader in 2004.

[Forkboy]

36. You'd think if someone's panties were in such a bunch

over Naderites here that they were willing to leave that they could at least name ONE.

I dunno,color me reactionary :D

[Forkboy]

3. Yes to Democracy!

:P

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[louis c]

4. The Primaries are over

If Mr. Ego thought he could get more than a spoiler's vote, why didn't he run in the primaries. Because he has good points but he is no more electable than my Barber.

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[TrueAmerican]

7. You can say that again

and again and again and again and again and again.

;)

[Pastiche423]

24. He din't run in the

DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES because he is running on the INDEPENDENT ticket.

Duh!

:eyes:

[louis c]

28. 5%

The Moron vote. 5%. 5%. 5%. 5%. 5% tell me what good 5% is in any election other than to elect the other guy. Tell me.

[Pastiche423]

31. WTF does that have to do w/my post?

[Forkboy]

34. Nothing

Most Nader posts have nothing to do with anything other than spleen venting.

[Bill Wade]

8. Ok, I understand your dislike for Nader.

I'm still trying to figure out why so many people who claim to be democratic, are against being able to vote for different canididates for president.

It seems to be a contradiction. Or maybe I should just shut up and follow the party line?

BTW, while I like Nader and what he stands for, I'll be voting for everybody's favorite moderate, John Kerry.

[Forkboy]

9. Call them members of D.A.D.

Democrats Against Democracy.

[kalian]

10. Exactly right....

pisses me off too.

[sangha]

14. In a real democracy, everyone agrees with Nader

because he's the only one who offers us the choice of agreeing with Nader.

[louis c]

15. The Democratic Primaries are over

WE HAVE A NOMINEE. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. IT'S TIME TO DEFEAT BUSH. GET IT. DEMOCRACY WAS PLAYED OUT IN THE PRIMARIES. MR. EGO DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY. HE WANTS NEW RULES. HIS NONSENSE WILL GET US BUSH AGAIN. WAKE THE FUCK UP.

[Bill Wade]

16. WHAT? TURN MY HEADPHONES UP?

TURN THEM SHITS UP! Alright, so I'm copying a sketch from Chappelle's show. Excuse me. :)

Democracy was played out in the primaries huh? So after the primaries, democracy is over? Hmm, so now I'm told.

Wake the fuck up, eh? Well, if being 'woke up' would result in me being in the D.A.D. group and not being able to accept that we do have a democracy, or something similar, then I think I'll just stay asleep. :)

[Forkboy]

17. I get it now

if only someone had used all caps before! :eyes:

[UrbScotty]

22. Amen, brother!

(even though I'm not an electrical worker ;-) )

[Walt Starr]

26. Realistically, a snowball stands a better chance in the Arizona

desert in July than Nader stands of winning this election.

[Kahuna]

27. Nader, who? Oh! That guy who's polling at 1% and thinks that..

will get him a seat at the debates.. Yeah sure babe.

[stavka]

29. I'm scared

Michigan shows Rep/Dem in a tie (STAT) 45/47

with Nader getting 5%!!!!!!

I live in Ann Arbor and move in really leftist circles- I don't know or have met a single Nader supporter (I do run into a lot for LaRouche).

So who are they? - first they have to have a phone - this mythical college Nader supporter doesn't, they probably are in Ann Arbor with a minority in East Lansing at State.

THEY DON'T EXIST! There is no Nader campaign in Ann Arbor - how does 5% of the elligible electorate state wide come out in favor of Nader???????

The Central and West Coast of Michigan is like living in Calvinist Holland - the wouldn't vote Dem if their (mortal) lives depended on it.

Nobody live up North

Screw concern about voting tallies I think the fix is already in!

[senseandsensibility]

33. The worst thing

Nader ever said was that Democrats and Republicans are alike. He said many times that there is no difference between the parties. Thank you for pointing out ONE of the ways that they're different. And for those of you who think Nader is so pure, why does he lie about the difference between the parties?

[Raskolnik]

37. No to Nader indeed

Anyone who says that there isn't a difference between Bush and Kerry (as they said that there wasn't a difference between Bush and Gore) isn't paying goddamn attention.

Even if the ONLY difference between the two was the judges they appoint (and it isn't), this would be the most important election in a generation. Several SC slots will be opening up, and I for one do NOT want to see a court packed with Scalias and Thomases. God help us.

[unkachuck]

38. No to Nader, yes, but to some....

he appears as Capitalist-Lite.....but I am strongly supporting capitalist Kerry (and his to be announced capitalist VP) over the incumbent capitalists Bush and capitalist Cheney....(I feel Secretary of Defense capitalist Rumsfeld and Attorney General capitalist Ashcroft have to go).....

Although one could argue the benefits of the former Speaker of the House capitalist Gephart over capitalist Gingrich, we still have much progress that needs to be made in our country....(I do personally find Senator capitalist Durbin a likeable fellow....for a capitalist)....

Unfortunately, lately, the only new socialism our capitalists have brought us has been corporate-socialism.....old-fashion people-socialism has fallen out of favor (no money to be made)....

And that seems to be the crux of our problem....we just can't get good socialism from our capitalists anymore.....