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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:01 PM Original message |
Did We the People win the Cold War (through our culture) or did Raygun? |
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Kilroy003 (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. the CIA and the shitty Soviet economy did it |
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cheezus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. We made them spend into bankruptcy |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Soft Power had something to do with it. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. They were ready to fall before Ronnie mortgaged our |
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John BigBootay (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. If everyone knew that the USSR was set to collapse-- |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The CIA had said it |
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John BigBootay (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 03:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. "I'm sure Carter knew it. " example? |
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Leprechan29 (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-04 03:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Thing was, no one did know it was coming... |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. the cold war was a scam for the most part |
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Kilroy003 (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:08 PM Original message |
thats a pretty big scam |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. Exactly! |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Yeah, it was a pretty big scam |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. el-gato, as your avatar suggests you fly in the face of conventional |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Thanks CST |
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Leprechan29 (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. What do you mean by |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Read my post number 17 |
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Kilroy003 (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. If 'culture' includes technology |
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Leprechan29 (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. It was...(drum roll) |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. you're exactly right. and reply #7 as well |
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Leprechan29 (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-04 03:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. That's become apparent |
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DNA (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. Nobody |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Reagan's confrotational ideas could have been a disaster. |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. But do you think our culture and art and music had a part to play? |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. only in the context of |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. good point. I am wondering now - does my thread show that we are |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. Nobody actually "won" anything. |
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FattyMcCraigs (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
10. a good question... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
13. Reagan did NOT "win the Cold War" |
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FlemingsGhost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. Middle East war and economic collapse killed the USSR |
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Kilroy003 (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. No Shit! |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. We're next if we don't get Bu$h out n/t |
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Kilroy003 (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. After we unseat GW |
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GainesT1958 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
18. The Soviet Union was already starting to implode in earnest... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. The point is that the US did not want the Cold War(tm) to end. |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. great point. |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. My summary |
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daa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Don't forget to include |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Why does * insist that star wars still needs to be explored? |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
30. The policies of Jimmy Carter after Afganistan was invaded |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. The Chinese won the Cold War |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. I don't think it was our culture or Raygun |
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Alpharetta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
33. I give Lech Walesa and Solidarnosc the bulk of the credit |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I totally think it was really Lech who won the war!! |
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daa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Lech wrote in the WSJ |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. hey now. don't leave out |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
42. They went broke. Had nothing to do with Reagan. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
43. Gorbachev ended the Cold War. |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-04 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. Is China part of the Cold War? Tiannemen Square? |
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