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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:04 PM
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Does "Iraqi Sovereignty" include
the right to cancel any contracts made by the Provisional Authority and/or to nationalise Iraqi industries?
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:10 PM
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1. You've got to be joking
That would be hilarious! What would Bushface do then?
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:22 PM
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2. was fairly positive it wouldn't
but I havn't waded through the issue too much.

It's been shitting me to tears that the media (even the half decent media) has been constantly referring to "sovereignty" without questioning that at all. I shouldn't be surprised I know but is there anything that emanates from the White House/Pentagon that the media wont parrot unthinkingly??
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:39 PM
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3. A Cruel Farce!!!
Full Sovereignty?
Throughout the spring, as hundreds died in the spiraling conflict, as Regime bosses applied their hardcore "anti-terrorist" tortures to innocent bystanders raked up in their occupation nets, as Regime mouthpieces prated endlessly of "liberation" and "sovereignty," Bush viceroy Paul Bremer was quietly signing a series of edicts that will give the United States effective control over the military, ministries -- and money -- of any Iraqi government, for years to come, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Bremer has placed U.S.-appointed "commissions" made up of Americans and local puppets throughout Iraqi government agencies; the ministers supposedly in charge weren't even told of the edicts. These boards "will serve multiyear terms and have significant authority to run criminal investigations, award contracts, direct troops and subpoena citizens," the Journal reports. Any new Iraqi government "will have little control over its armed forces, lack the ability to make or change laws and be unable to make major decisions within specific ministries without tacit U.S. approval, say U.S. officials."


Earlier Bremer edicts laid the Iraqi economy wide open to ruthless exploitation by Bush-approved foreign "investors"; dominance of such key sectors as banking, communications -- and energy -- is already well advanced. The latest dictates aim to ensure that this organized looting goes on, no matter what kind of makeshift "interim government" the United Nations manage to piece together. Bush's plans to build a Saddamite fortress embassy in Baghdad and 14 permanent military bases around the country are designed to provide the knee-breaking "security" for these lucrative arrangements



http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/05/21/120.html

*The "new" Iraqi Govt. is 100% Puppet Govt. approved by the US Govt to meet all standards of a Puppet Govt.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:53 PM
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4. No, it only includes filling potholes.
Uncle Dickie told Chimpy that "sovereignty" means when somebody works for you. So when Shrub says the Iraqis will have full sovereignty, he thinks it means they will be working real hard.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:54 PM
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5. No, of course not...
"sovereignty" includes the right to call itself a sovereign state, and nothing more....
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:59 PM
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6. Uh,...no. Ya' see, "freedom" is a term of art abundantly spewed by
corrupt corporatist-ruled governments.

But, of course,...I know that you know that I know you know that already.

:bounce:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 11:56 PM
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7. It is a known known
However to the genreal American public it is an unknown unknown and a never will be known.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:28 AM
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8. UN resolution 1546 says:
the interim government "will assume full responsibility and authority by 30 June 2004 for governing Iraq while refraining from taking any actions affecting Iraq's destiny beyond the limited interim period".

So, nationalisation would definitely be impossible. Further on, it implies that any oil revenue should continue to be spent roughly as it is now (paragraphs 24-26, http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=10237). This would, I think, be the government's main source of revenue.

I imagine money coming from the US government will be controlled directly by the super embassy, rather than the interim government (they have to have something to do with the world's largest embassy).
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:56 AM
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9. Iraq will have an artistic interpretation of sovereignty
rendered up by Bush Inc.


They'll have a carefully crafted facsimile of freedom...brought to them by the man who gave us "there ought to be limits to freedom"

They'll own anything Haliburton feels they should own.



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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 05:07 AM
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10. Maybe they get a piece of the pie...why ruin a good thing prematurely?
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