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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 05:12 AM
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NEOCON-GATE A Must Read!
Edited on Fri Jun-11-04 05:12 AM by spooked
Besieged, Bothered, Bewildered – and Busted
Neocon-gate: It's one big neocon nervous breakdown

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2795

"In going through the desks of top neocons in the national security bureaucracy, trying to hunt down the officials who outed undercover CIA agent Plame in retaliation for her husband's antiwar stance, Fitzgerald and his fellow investigators more than likely came across a large number of very interesting items, clues to crimes yet to be uncovered. Once prosecutors went fishing in those muddy, murky waters, there's no telling what they might have pulled in. Which brings up an important point….

The other day FBI agents paid a visit to the Pentagon, and subjected several top neocons to lie-detector tests. They wanted to know where neocon protégé (and Iranian spy) Ahmed Chalabi got his hot little hands on highly valued U.S. secrets. But what I want to know is this: How many different teams of investigators have to go through the same desks? Why not consolidate all these ongoing investigations – l'affaire Plame, the Niger uranium forgeries, Chalabi-gate, and the Abu Ghraib war crimes – into one big investigation into a single mega-scandal? We can call it
Neocon-gate."
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 05:58 AM
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1. This whole administration has been a mega-scandal.
How about adding the cooked intelligence that led up to the Iraq fiasco, Cheney's super-secret energy policy meetings, Poppy's anthrax letters, the 9/11 cover-up, the true origin of the "Patriot Act", ...
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:01 AM
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2. oh yeah ream it...ream it good (a salient portion)
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"he was torn about what had happened since." Oh boo hoo hoo, poor little me: "I still have to sort it all out. I'm just not settled yet."

831 American soldiers and untold thousands of Iraqis aren't quite settled in their graves yet, but Adelman, a leading figure in Bush's neoconservative brain trust and a confidante of Dick Cheney's, is focused on – what else? – himself. And who can blame him? After all, the peasants with pitchforks are coming up the road, their torches flaring against the night sky, closing in on the castle:

"Other neocons worry that the real trouble for them could begin if President Bush is not reelected and, among conservatives, the finger-pointing begins – in their direction.

"'Bush could end up looking like the worst president since Jimmy Carter because of Iraq, and people are going to say, 'You got us into this mess,' said one Washington source who considered himself a neoconservative and spoke on the condition of anonymity. 'It's going to be nasty and bitter and brutal.'"

You betcha he spoke on condition of anonymity: it's the neocons' chief means of defense. They've gone underground, denying their very existence and hiding deep in the cellars of the national security bureaucracy, hoping against all hope that they won't be smoked out by investigators hot on the trail of their many and various crimes – against the nation, and also against humanity. The very word "neocon" is now being held up as the newest form of "hate speech." But as much as they squirm and squeal and beg for mercy – and this piece by Los Angeles Times reporter Paul Richter is certainly the occasion for that – the gods will hopefully not flinch in making them pay full price for their hubris.

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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:06 AM
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3. Oh, and let's name names...shall we?
Edited on Fri Jun-11-04 06:17 AM by indigobusiness
"Nasty and bitter and brutal," eh? I say let's build a human pyramid with Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, "Scooter" Libby, Harold Rhode, Michael Rubin, Abram Shulsky, Bill Luti, and the whole gang over at the Office of Special Plans, with Dick Cheney at the apex. Then let the dogs at them: no, not those mean-looking German Shepherds in the Abu Ghraib photo gallery of horror, but an even fiercer breed: Pat Buchanan, Paul Craig Roberts, Lew Rockwell, Claes Ryn, Tom Fleming, and the meanest dog of them all: Patrick J. "Bulldog" Fitzgerald, the prosecutor assigned to the Valerie Plame case, the one with potentially the sharpest bite.

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This is one sharp set of words...let the slicing and dicing run riot.

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The other day FBI agents paid a visit to the Pentagon, and subjected several top neocons to lie-detector tests. They wanted to know where neocon protégé (and Iranian spy) Ahmed Chalabi got his hot little hands on highly valued U.S. secrets. But what I want to know is this: How many different teams of investigators have to go through the same desks? Why not consolidate all these ongoing investigations – l'affaire Plame, the Niger uranium forgeries, Chalabi-gate, and the Abu Ghraib war crimes – into one big investigation into a single mega-scandal? We can call it Neocon-gate.

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High calorie stuff...delicious.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:12 AM
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4. Yes! Name Names
Edited on Fri Jun-11-04 06:12 AM by Stephanie
The press has been protecting these criminals by referring to them anonymously as neo-cons or "the hawks in the Pentagon." Use their NAMES, starting with CHENEY, whic is where this will all end up.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:21 AM
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5. So true.
Edited on Fri Jun-11-04 06:23 AM by indigobusiness
I am not a vindictive person, but there must be a special place in Hell for this crowd...and I admit to enjoying seeing their ticket punched.


http://sludgereport.blogspot.com/
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:32 AM
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6. When do we get to say I Told You So?
We've only been screaming about this for the past two years.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=110&topic_id=80&mesg_id=6280

PNAC Links Archive (Redux) Stephanie Jul-14-03 06:25 PM #0
We NEED to recover this thread from DU1 T Roosevelt Jul-14-03 06:26 PM #1
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace Stephanie Jul-14-03 06:32 PM #4
"It's the Kissinger plan" - Mother Jones - March/April 2003 Stephanie Jul-14-03 06:36 PM #5
CLI Welcomes Sen. Bayh (& Lieberman) - Press Release 2/14/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 06:39 PM #6
Guardian 2/26/03 - "Decisions, decisions" (re designs for US hegemony) Stephanie Jul-14-03 06:41 PM #7
New Nat'l Sec'y Strategy: Pre-emptive Strikes (NYT, WP, Guardian) Stephanie Jul-14-03 06:48 PM #8
I love Molly Ivins! Dancing_Dave Aug-28-03 08:58 PM #77
A think tank war: Why old Europe says no - SMH (from Der Spiegel) 3/7/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 06:52 PM #9
The Bush lies pushing the world to the brink-Robert Scheer - Salon 3/5/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 06:57 PM #10
Real Reasons for the US Invasion - Rupe-India, 12/02 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:02 PM #11
John Pilger on Perle & PNAC - 12/12/02 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:04 PM #12
The president's real goal in Iraq - Atlanta Journal Constitution 9/29/02 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:10 PM #13
The Plan - ABC News Nightline 3/10/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:16 PM #14
Lunch With The Chairman (Perle) - Seymour Hersh-New Yorker 3/17/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:22 PM #15
The latest Richard Perle outrage - Joe Conason, Salon 3/10/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:24 PM #16
Invading Iraq not a new idea for Bush clique - Philadelphia Daily News Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:28 PM #17
Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11- CBS News 9/4/02 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:29 PM #18
7/13/2000 Guardian: Anger at peace talks 'meddling'(Perle sabotages talks) Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:32 PM #19
A Wilful Blindness - George Monbiot - London Guardian 03/11/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:34 PM #20
n/t Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:37 PM #21
9/11 gave life to U.S. imperial ambitions - Japan Times - 3/14/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:40 PM #22
Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming Pres. - Herald-9/15/02 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:41 PM #23
A world safe for democracy, or perpetual war? - Star Tribune 3/16/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:44 PM #24
Is Iraq the opening salvo in a war to remake the world? - TAP 3/18/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:46 PM #25
White House Claims: A Pattern of Deceit-Inst. for Public Accuracy 3/18/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:48 PM #26
All the PNAC links brought together, by paul thompson Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:51 PM #27
Some Evidence on Iraq Called Fake (Niger Docs) - WP 3/8/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 07:58 PM #28
The Men From JINSA and CSP - The Nation, August 15, 2002 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:03 PM #29
This war is brought to you by ... Asia Times 3/20/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:05 PM #30
(Perle) Also Advising Global Crossing - NYTimes-03/21/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:09 PM #31
Pentagon Strategy Creates Rift Among Hawks - Alternet 3/21/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:11 PM #32
Pre-emption: Idea With a Lineage Whose Time Has Come | NYT | 3/23 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:14 PM #33
US thinktanks give lessons in foreign policy - UK Guardian 8/02 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:16 PM #34
The Madness of Empire - The American Conservative Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:20 PM #35
Disinfopedia on Richard Perle Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:28 PM #36
n/t Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:34 PM #37
(Senate Should Investigate Perle) - Conason & Arianna 3/26/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:36 PM #38
The Wraps Come Off Bush's Colonialist Agenda - LA Times 3/25 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:37 PM #39
Practice to Deceive - Wash. Monthly -Joshua Micah Marshall 4/03-" Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:40 PM #40
Defense Adviser Perle Resigns (Conyers wants investigation) - WP 3/27 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:42 PM #41
Pentagon Adviser Is Stepping Down (Perle) - NYT-3/28 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:44 PM #42
Woolsey: U.S. faces 'World War IV' - CNN - 4/3/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:45 PM #43
Road to Baghdad Paved by 'Scoop' Jackson - Seattle PI 4/6/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:47 PM #44
Neoconservative clout seen in U.S. Iraq policy-Milwaukee Journal Sentinal Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:50 PM #45
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace - links galore Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:51 PM #46
How neoconservatives conquered Washington - Salon 4/9/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:53 PM #47
Bush ready to fight war on two fronts - Guardian 4/13/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:55 PM #48
Privatization in Disguise - The Nation 4/10/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:57 PM #49
The Strategist and the Philosopher (Strauss) - Le Monde (via truthout) Stephanie Jul-14-03 08:59 PM #50
Hawks Rip Into Mideast Plan - LA Times Stephanie Jul-14-03 09:05 PM #51
Whose war is this? | Pat Buchanan USA Today 09/26/2001 Stephanie Jul-14-03 09:33 PM #52
Why look in the crystal ball? - Terry Jones, Guardian 5/4/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 09:38 PM #53
"Rebuilding America's Defenses" – A Summary (PNAC Cliff's Notes) Stephanie Jul-14-03 09:40 PM #54
Perle Briefed Seminar on How to Profit From Iraq - AP 5/7/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 09:42 PM #55
Consulting and Policy Overlap (Perle) - LA Times | 5/7/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 09:44 PM #56
Strong Must Rule the Weak, said Neo-Cons' Muse (Strauss) - Truthout | 5/8/ Stephanie Jul-14-03 09:46 PM #57
The Philosopher (Strauss) - Boston Globe | 5/11/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 09:58 PM #58
Radio Interview with Jeet Heer, on Strauss - WNYC 5/22/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:00 PM #59
SELECTIVE INTELLIGENCE - S. Hersh, The New Yorker 5/12/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:02 PM #60
Father Strauss Knows Best - NYT | 5/4/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:07 PM #61
A Dream Only American Power Can Inspire | May 16, 2003 Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:08 PM #62
www.PNAC.info - Exposing the Project for the New American Century Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:10 PM #63
http://pnacrevealed.com/ Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:10 PM #64
From Eloriel: LEO STRAUSS AND THE NEO-CONS Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:13 PM #65
A PNAC Primer: How We Got Into This Mess - Bernard Weiner, Counterpunch Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:16 PM #66
Five steps to the world according to Bush-Neil Mckay Sunday Herald 6/1/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:20 PM #67
PNAC WATCH + DEM THINK THANK Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:24 PM #68
Active link for PNAC Watch Tinoire Jul-21-03 11:14 PM #71
A mission in Iraq built on a lie - Sydney Morning Herald 6/16/03 Stephanie Jul-14-03 10:28 PM #69
The spies who pushed for war (OSP) - Guardian, 7/17/03 Stephanie Jul-17-03 01:13 PM #70
Seymore Hersch - Who Lied To Whom (New Yorker Mar 2003) Tinoire Jul-22-03 09:45 PM #72
Are Neocons cooking their own goose? - Sacramento Bee 7/27/03 Stephanie Jul-28-03 03:28 AM #73
Career officer does eye-opening stint inside Pentagon Tinoire Aug-03-03 11:30 AM #74
Get real | Guardian 8/26/03 Stephanie Aug-27-03 07:35 PM #75
Thanks for bringing this back up Dancing_Dave Aug-28-03 05:47 PM #76
This war on terrorism is bogus | M. Meacher, UK Guardian, 9/6/03 Stephanie Sep-06-03 12:55 PM #78
Empire Builders - Neoconservatives and their blueprint for US power T Roosevelt Sep-11-03 03:54 PM #79
Will Pitt's speech thread to NYC Symposium on 9/11/03 T Roosevelt Sep-14-03 05:21 PM #80
Saving America: Leo Strauss and the neoconservatives T Roosevelt Sep-17-03 01:05 PM #81
Joshua Micah Marshall on Clark and PNAC - 10/02/03 Stephanie Oct-05-03 09:47 PM #82
MN Startribune: Iraq: It was never about Sept. 11 T Roosevelt Oct-07-03 08:43 AM #83
THE STOVEPIPE by SEYMOUR M. HERSH | The New Yorker - 10/27/03 Stephanie Oct-26-03 06:37 PM #84
Cheney's hawks 'hijacking policy' | SMH (Australia) 10/30/03 Stephanie Oct-29-03 11:40 PM #85
War critics astonished as US hawk admits invasion was illegal (Perle) | UK Stephanie Nov-20-03 02:48 PM #86
Two more links T Roosevelt Nov-26-03 07:22 PM #87
Kick Stephanie Dec-15-03 08:39 PM #88
thanks steph ithacan Dec-31-03 08:04 AM #89
THE WHISPERING CAMPAIGN - Stealth Activism To Wake Up The Nation LunaC Jan-02-04 09:17 PM #90
kick number6 Jan-04-04 12:58 AM #91
MAPS AND CHARTS OF IRAQI OILFIELDS: CHENEY ENERGY TASK FORCE Stephanie Jan-11-04 08:35 PM #92
Kick! n/t Tinoire Jan-16-04 01:42 AM #93
PNAC influence on the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) IkeWarnedUs Jan-16-04 03:08 PM #94
Dick Cheney Implements PNAC Policy Stephanie Jan-17-04 03:39 PM #95
CHENEY ENERGY TASK FORCE - A Refresher Course LunaC Jan-17-04 04:25 PM #96
Dupe from last Sept 03 T Roosevelt Jan-18-04 09:44 AM #97
thanks - posted above - #78 Stephanie Jan-18-04 08:06 PM #99
Don't forget about the Project for the OLD American Century POAC Jan-18-04 12:23 PM #98
The more specific link T Roosevelt Feb-01-04 11:22 PM #101
And for post 100: The Lie Factory (MotherJones) T Roosevelt Jan-31-04 08:40 PM #100
A Tragedy of Errors | Michael Lind, The Nation 2/23/04 Stephanie Feb-10-04 08:04 AM #102
Map of World Unions? mac2 Feb-10-04 01:46 PM #103
The murky underbelly boobooday Feb-10-04 07:20 PM #104
Soldier for the Truth (Karen Kwiatkowski re: OSP) | L.A. Weekly 2/20/04 Stephanie Feb-25-04 10:17 PM #105
Karen posted the truth on the web for a long time Dancing_Dave Feb-26-04 11:06 PM #106
kicking Stephanie Mar-26-04 11:23 AM #111
kick Stephanie May-13-04 01:05 AM #116
WMDs Smafty_Mac Mar-08-04 03:34 AM #107
The Right Web holyrollerdem Mar-11-04 01:57 AM #108
Richard Perle & David Frum on NPR 1/8/04 holyrollerdem Mar-11-04 02:00 AM #109
The new Pentagon papers (OSP) | Karen Kwiatkowski in Salon, 3/10/04 Stephanie Mar-11-04 08:31 PM #110
Hi Stephanie! Donna Zen Apr-15-04 06:25 PM #112
Where've you been?!? Stephanie Apr-16-04 02:32 AM #113
Lack of Resolution in Iraq Finds Conservatives Divided | NY Times 4/19/04 Stephanie Apr-20-04 12:12 AM #114
Deleted message Name removed Apr-29-04 03:14 AM #115
Feith - What has the Pentagon's third man done wrong? Everything.| Slate Stephanie May-23-04 06:32 PM #117
THE MANIPULATOR (Chalabi) | The New Yorker 5/29/04 Stephanie May-29-04 11:28 AM #118
The Bush orthodoxy is in shreds (neo-cons investigated)| Guardian 5/27/04 Stephanie May-29-04 11:53 AM #119
A Tough Time for 'Neocons' | L.A. Times, June 10, 2004 Stephanie Jun-11-04 07:27 AM #120



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