Let's show some DU forgiveness

[info being]

What the Freeper did was wrong. The DUer in question should not have to be humiliated and fired over the discussion of a moral dilemma.

However, I'm not sure this justifies retribution. My impulse, like many of you, is to somehow punish the Freeper in question for his cruelty and insensitivity. But perhaps the best thing we can do in this case is lead by example.

We all mess up from time to time, and we all need to cut each other some slack as well. The Freeper chose the interests of an institution over the interests of a well-intentioned individual. And for what? The idea that he has caused someone all this pain is a huge burden. Carrying that burden is punishment enough. Let's show him what it means to cut someone a little slack, and hope he makes up for this wrong in the future.

On edit: F*ck that, payback's a bitch!

[molly]

1. Do they have a conscience - I would never-ever-ever

do something like that!

[shraby]

5. It's just possible that

the DU'er has children to support and is now without a job. I'm sorry, but forgiveness for denying a family their support because of vindictiveness is not in my vocabulary.

[Catherine Vincent]

17. oops

seeing how you spelled "conscience" correctly, I realize I spelled it wrong in another thread

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. Neither would I!

And not only did this despicable person choose to do this, he took delight in doing so, even to the point of bragging about it! Also, where was it any of his business to begin with? So, NO forgiveness here. He messed with a person's livelihood! Hopefully, what goes around, comes around on this!

[sangh0]

2. And while we're at it

let's give Bush* another four years and see if HE makes up for his wrongs in the future

[info being]

4. Bush is different

You can tell by this person's posts that he's an ok person, just misguided. Besides, he's young. People learn if they are corrected.

Bush is an entirely different story. He and his cronies are the SOURCE of the problem, not a misguided fool on a message board.

[Walt Starr]

7. So, if he drove drunk at age 21 and hurt somebody in a car crash

we should just be nice to him? There is a qwuestion of civil liability and potential criminal culpability here.

Let the law take its course.

[Bunny]

9. Good one!

We can be good sports about it all and just keep Bush around for four more years. I mean, I'm sure he means well and all...

[Walt Starr]

3. The Freeper in question may be civilly liable

There is also the potential for crimninal liability under federal RICO statutes.

Explore every legal avenue. Humilate him publically. Have him lose face in the political party he was representing.

Sorry, but we cannot give any quarter on this. Freerepublic has officially decclared war. If we roll over and take it, we deserve what we get.

[TexasMexican]

10. How so?

Slander or Libel I assume?

I dont know much abour RICO though.

[Walt Starr]

16. He publically conspired in an act

that may or may not have been fraud.

That's racketeering under RICO if it's fraud.

[porphyrian]

6. Wasted Act of Compassion

Unless you're tallying points for an afterlife, your taking the moral high ground won't matter a bit with the freeper. The little shit has it coming. Payback's a bitch.

[treepig]

8. perhaps you're suffering from a momentary lapse in judgement?

that was no accident - the freepers live for these moments - and have a long, established pattern of this type of behavior.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

14. BINGO! I also doubt the sincerity of his...

"O my gosh, I didn't want THAT to happen" CYA post.

[sangh0]

21. Oh no!

Im almost certain he wrote that letter because he wanted to get a official form letter response from NPR.

I'm just as sure that eh's a really swell fellow, like Bush*

[ibegurpard]

27. More like "oops...didn't realize it might have repercussions for ME."

stupid moron.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

31. BINGO II, the Sequel! (nt)

[Union Thug]

11. you're kidding, right? eom

[MadHound]

12. Fuck that

I say sue RimJob and his merry little band of misfits. I understand competition and rivalry, but getting somebody fired because of what was written on an anonymous chat board is going waaaay to far. Just another attempt to silence and intimidate the left. So much for First Amendment, eh there FreepFucks?

Sue the bastards, hit them in the one place that really hurts, the wallet.

[Democracy Died 2004]

13. Will we ever realize

that we do not have to apologize for being ourselves? I get so frustrated at this old democratic thinking. This is a new era. We have an enemy and we must think like them to beat them.. Taking the high road over the years has done nothing but leave a shitty taste in my mouth. I am tired of it... I will fight these pricks with the same ammo they use. And if you think it's morally wrong then eat some more shit. I won't!

[tom_paine]

22. Exactly! It's amazing how prevalent "please don't hurt me" is around here

And we all have seen how well that's worked for us so far.

We've all seen how "please don't hurt me" has worked for us so far.

CUT IT OUT YOU PEOPLE! FIND YOUR GOD DAMNED SPINES BEFORE YOU WAKE UP IN A REEDUCATION CAMP WATCHING YOUR KID GET RAPED BY BUSHEVIK GUARDS!

You might think me :tinfoilhat: for saying so, but we all know the Busheviks view EVERYONE WHO ISN'T THEM as they do the Iraqis. Subhuman animals.

STAND AND BE TRUE!

[Norquist Nemesis]

28. Welcome!!! Great Post!

:hi: You're right about them waging a war, IMO. They're dangerous people. I called it pawprints in one post title because they are like a pack of rabidly insane dogs. Haven't seen anything yet to suggest otherwise.

[jayfish]

34. Excellent Post.

Maybe the best I have read here. (with maybe the exception of my 666th post) Just how I like em too... short and sweet. A hardy welcome to the DU warrior class. :toast:

Jay

[tom_paine]

15. I have NO FORGIVENESS LEFT FOR NAZI SCUM.

None.

There is only one thing to do with Nazis once you realize what they are, even if they are "kinder and gentler" Nazis.

Resist Them.

Stop Them.

Fight Them.

[smada]

18. What happened?

I missed it.

[Chovexani]

19. Let's not

Turning the other cheek only gets you booted in the ass twice.

[ibegurpard]

20. I'm sorry but fuck that!

Forgiveness is for people who make mistakes not for people who willfully, maliciously fuck others.

[info being]

23. You guys are right.

Time for Progressives to stand up for ourselves. My impulses to forgive are wrong here. Anybody who spends time at Free Republic and would resort to such an action is probably too far gone.

Perhaps what he needs to do is join DU and formally apologize. If he is a decent human being, as I am suggesting, he will wrong his right by coming here to talk it over.

[tom_paine]

24. Not a decent human being, a Nazi Monster!

"kinder and gentler" but still the same.

Don't hold your breath!

[info being]

25. But let's at least hold the door open.

[tom_paine]

26. Sure. Maybe Hitler and Himmler will come and apologize to the Liberals,

Jews, Gypsies and Homsexuals, too.

Sorry, I don't mean to belittle you. It's been a rough day.

[datasuspect]

30. bullshit

this country is inching closer and closer to a fascist state.

these freepers, right wingers, race baiters, reverend wildmons, and all their ilk have the keys to the fucking castle. they control all three branches of the US Govt.

they continually pollute the body politic with their ideological and religio-fanatical puke. they are seeking to make this country a fundamentalist christian theocracy.

they DO NOT play nice.

jesus, sometimes i wonder what the hell is wrong with the left. you have to fight fire with fire.

this isn't an issue of "stooping to their level" or other such nonsense. at one time, i would have believed the system could heal itself and things would move on; but when the system is subverted and hijacked by these people (and they are the true threat to freedom), you need solid activism. not "play nice," not "live and let live."

what you can do is counteract falsehoods with lies, speak truth to power, and otherwise put the spotlight on the patent nonsense, falsehood, and illogic they are serving up 24-7.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

32. No way.

We liberals are always the ones to "play nice," and we get our asses handed to us. Not anymore.

[Just Me]

33. Setting aside both anger and forgiveness, I would call for being smart.

In my view, retributive REactions would more likely hurt "misanthrope" than help.

Give him a chance to contact a lawyer and take appropriate legal actions. IF that doesn't pan out, then other legal recourses and strategies can be discussed.

[rinsd]

36. Agreed...

Misanthrope should contact a lawyer.

In a sad ironic twist I fear DU may have opened itself up to lawsuits. Posting of personal info, including the guy's e-mail, and tracking him down could be cyberstalking/harrassment depending on how far this goes. I hope cooler heads will prevail. Not to let this guy off the hook, contact AA about it. Make it a positive story about free speech. If DUers go after this guy(obviously not physically), that potential is lost.

Much as I'd save any hate mail for future legal action, this freeper may be doing the same.

I've got a bad feeling about this.

[LuminousX]

35. And if Bush steals the election again, we shouldn't care...?

Forgiveness is only good for the truly repentent.

How many others have been harassed by Freepers because of what they wrote here? I seem to recall other attempts at getting other DUers fired in the past through coordinated efforts on the Freepers part.

The DUer in question had best contact a lawyer and address this as an issue of wrongful termination of employment first.

[Neecy]

37. well...

I suppose it's easy to talk about forgiveness, but this isn't for us to forgive.

It's up to someone who just lost his job, and, for all we know, perhaps his ability to put food on the table or a roof over his head.

I can't forgive causing pain and hardship to another human being out of a spiteful, meanspirited fascist political viewpoint that targets people for destruction. If we forgive that, what does it say about us?