Atrocious US ARMY Videos ( Download Links inside) !

[StephanKetz]

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/dontloot.wmv <- Video 1 - Dont loot

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/helicopterkills.mpg <- Video 2 - Helicopter Kills

[Auntie Bush]

1. I don't want to look at then! Just tell us basiclly what they said.

[StephanKetz]

8. Please watch them

Sure, truth hurts! But how can we fight Bush if we don't know the REAL facts? Just watch them...

[Dropkick]

2. for 6 2x4's and a sheet of plywood.

re: video 1 Shameful. Just absolutely shameful. They destroyed his car, and the poor man was a taxidriver.

[merh]

3. I can't stop crying....

[merh]

4. Were there weapons?

I didn't see any weapons in the hands of the fellows attacked by the copter!

[hiphopnation]

5. proud to be an american

:puke:

[Cheswick2.0]

6. I thought it was against Geneva conventions to kill someone

after they were wounded and down.

[RummyTheDummy]

17. Whoa. Big tough guys in their chopper

What a bunch of fucking cowards. And some call them "heroes".

[Cheswick2.0]

7. sure, we blow up their country and their people...then we crush their cars

for a couple pieces of stolen plywood.

[StephanKetz]

9. You don't have to steal anything

I remember Iraqi people celebrating a marriage and ... you know what happened!

[matcom]

10. And I Was A Fucking Tanker In The Army Back In The 80's

Sorry world.

I am ashamed.

[mtnester]

11. Links are down n/t

[StephanKetz]

12. No, still up and running

Alternatively, go here first

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/dontloot.html

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/helicopterkills.html

[StephanKetz]

13. I found a second host

for the helicopter video

http://64.159.80.208/Funny/224Helicopter_Kills.mpeg

[StephanKetz]

18. BTW: Very sad thing

that both hosts have put the kills of human beings in the fun section...

[paulk]

14. What do you think about these videos, Mr. Ketz?

You posted them - do you have any comments?

[StephanKetz]

15. Don't you see I wrote ATROCIOUS

That's what I feel about. Sure, a war is cruel. But still, there are rules, at least there's the Geneva Convention. We mustn't forget why we officially conquered Irag: freedom, peace, liberty, democracy and so on. Unfortunately, in these videos we see the tip of the iceberg of how the US executive force behaves down there. I don't think many soldiers are aware even why they fight. If so, they wouldn't treat the Iragi people the way you just saw. Link these videos to the prison abuse scandal and you get closer to the TRUTH!

[paulk]

19. The military blows up things and kills people

-it's what they do- which is why the military should only be used in the gravest of circumstances - which doesn't describe Iraq.

Stuff like this doesn't make me angry at the military - the military is only a tool. It makes me angry at the persons who decided to use the tool for the wrong job.


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The Geneva Convention ain't the Marquis of Queensbury Rules - I don't see anything in those videos that's a violation. The "helicopter" video has been discussed ad nauseam here on DU, get yourself a star and you can do a search on it. A lot of different opinions...

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I don't think there's the kind of relationship between the prison abuse scandal and what is shown in these videos. These videos show what war is really about - horrifying enough, but not that much out of the ordinary. The prison abuse scandal is on a different order altogether, at least for the US military. This goes all the way to the White House, and Bush and his cohorts deserve the worse for it.


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ps - another poster upthread says that killing a wounded enemy is a violation of the Geneva Convention - that's just not true. It's common practice by all sides in all wars to keep shooting at an exposed enemy until they're dead. That's just the way it is.

In fact - if an enemy is caught engaging in military action without a uniform on he/she can be summarily shot. No rules apply.

War really sucks - that's why it should always be the absolute last resort.

[StephanKetz]

20. Perfect addition

I absolutely agree!

[RummyTheDummy]

16. Did they really have to go over it a second time?

I mean, after the first go-over I think the car was pretty much done. Ahhhhh winning the hearts and minds.

Gotta love OUR troops.