Disgusting 'guest' on Faux utters 'N' word - no apology from host for it!!

[Lori Price CLG]

Just aired live on Faux, 'Big Story Weekend' with Rita Cosby, guest ('Defense Attorney,' Harvey Slovis) during OJ Simpson segment used the 'N' word.

Racist language for a racist network. The FCC needs to be FLOODED with complaints!!!

Lori Price
http://www.legitgov.org/

[MrSlayer]

1. In what context was it used?

Do you have a quote?

[Stew225]

2. Uh, would you be so kind as to elaborate a little on

what you're talking about. The link that you provided sure doesn't do much, other than strain my eyes. Talk about a busy home page. Was there something on that link that applied to the utterance of the afore-mentioned "n" word?

Signed,

Confused in Ohio

[Lori Price CLG]

5. Here is the context that the word was used.

No, I do NOT have a link. This show reairs, though. The CLG link (beneath my name) is to my website, as I thought the signature feature had been disabled by DU, sorry for that bit of confusion.

Anyway, here is the context, paraphrased: '...the minute Mark Furman used the word N*****, that was it. There would not be a conviction (of OJ.)' My point is, after the word was uttered, host Cosby should have apologized to the audience for the language.

Lori Price

[rooboy]

7. In that context, nobody's being slurred. It's just a quote. n/t

[boxster]

10. It's just a quote.

It obviously wasn't meant in an offensive manner. It was a reference to a statement that was repeated ad infinitum during and after the OJ trial.

And why should Cosby apologize? He didn't say it. Maybe you should demand an apology from Furmann.

This is no different than news reports about Bill Parcells using the word "jap" in a news conference. Should every news station that reported on the story apologize?

[troublemaker]

19. Apologize why? I mean really, why?

[markses]

20. Indirect discourse

We are certainly not so sensitive now as to disallow the word in indirect discourse? In fact, I think such "sensitivity" is actually a way of forgetting the word's real function as a perpetuator of racism. Let's grow up here.

[markses]

21. The term "The N-word" is a lot of white bullshit

Own up to the awful history of this country. "N-word." Bah. Like we're children. Just say it.

[TexasMexican]

23. Heh I concur.

[pauliedangerously]

24. It really depends on what part of the country you live in.

Having lived in NY, TX, VA, and now MN, I can tell you that attitudes are very different from place to place.

[candy331]

32. I agree it's a bunch of bull say the word or give it up.

I hate this n-word crap, just another way to not deal with the real issues.

[Kinkistyle]

25. Thats like saying Bush called a reporter a 'major league asshole'

I'm personally am not calling that reporter an asshole, nor do I approve of using the word "asshole" I am simply quoting Bush in full detail. That doesn't warrant an apology and neither does the person quoting Furman on FAUX.

[Cheswick2.0]

27. it's not like that at all.... for Goodness sake

Are you comparing the word Asshole with the N word (and no I will not say it or type it). What minority group does the word asshole demean?

[galadrium]

3. If the "N" word is going to be used in a hateful manner

then Faux is the place to do it, and get away with it.

[MrSlayer]

4. The guy was commenting on the OJ trial.

He said once the word was brought up in court the trial was over. It wasn't used in a vituperative manner.

[Still_Loves_John]

6. Yeah, exactly

It was a big thing from the trial that one of the cops used that word, so the context makes sense. It would probably be more diplomatic to say "The N-word," but he was quoting, and not using it in an offensive context. There are plenty of examples of disgusting behavior on Fox; this is not one of them.

[Cheswick2.0]

28. I disagree

even in context the word is offensive and should not be used.

[lanparty]

31. Actually it was important ...

... because Mark Furman LIED about having used the word. I don't think there is a single adult person in America who hasn't said "nigger" at one point in their life. Mark Furman lied because he said the answer that he thought would make him the most credible witness INSTEAD of simply telling the truth.

This is the problem. Cops will testify in the way the are SUPPOSED to behave instead of factually presenting their case. They are assuming a role in the justice system that IS NOT THEIRS!!!! It wasn't just Furman, it seemed to be EVERY stinking detective on the case that would do SOMETHING and then lie about it.

[On the Road]

9. Absolutely, The Point He Was Making

was not only legitimate, it revealed how racism was part of the trial.

I hadn't heard that quote from Mark Furman. It helps me to understand how so many blacks still believe in OJ's innocence. If you followed the trial, like many of us did, it's critical hear this quote as part of the racial backdrop of the trial.

Yet most news coverage evidently downplayed or ignored Mark Furman's racist statements. This is not helpful. In fact, I would specifically urge people NOT to complain and drive things like this under the rug again.

[boxster]

11. Furmann's use of the N word was big news at the time.

Many news agencies and pundits noted it and opined that it was going to seriously hurt the prosecution with the jury.

[On the Road]

12. I Obviously Didn't Follow it That Closely

or else forgot about it. Thanks for mentioning it. I still think the point holds. I think eliminating the N-word even when discussing the term negatively is a bad idea.

I went to a segregated school system for three years and I know what old-school institutional racism looks and feels like. Partly as a result of cultural oversensitivity, most people under 40 today have absolutely no context and no way of grasping this. It decreases racial understanding and prevents blacks from understanding their own past.

Avoiding the N-word as an epithet or a description should not prevent it's being referred to in a discussion of what someone else said in a significant situation. In any case, I think bowdlerism of any kind is dopey and counterproductive.

[boxster]

14. Most of that trial ended up being overshadowed by Cochran's performance.

I think a lot of the "real" issues in the OJ trial were completely overshadowed and buried by Cochran's demonstrative closing statements.

[On the Road]

16. The Prosecution Certainly Made a Lot of Mistakes

I was reading one of Michael Moore's books and he persuaded me to be quite skeptical about the case against OJ. I wasn't convinced of his guilt until the civil trial -- his lying about the Bruno Magli shoes pretty much nailed it for me along with his whole behavior pattern.

Plus the Chinese expert on blood spatter patterns didn't help the prosecution when he said "I can't say for sure the evidence has been fabricated -- all I can is 'something's wrong.'"

[Lori Price CLG]

18. Right, and the threshold is (until AshKKKan changes it) 'beyond a...

...reasonable doubt.' Hence, I likely would have voted for acquittal within the parameters, if I was a member of that jury.

Lori Price

[Lori Price CLG]

13. The POINT was, if a guest said the f-bomb, Reichwing Faux...

would have been all over the apology circuit like a duck on a June bug. OF COURSE the guest (who was NOT quoting -- he was SUMMARIZING Furman's comments) SHOULD have said, 'Furman used the N-word, and then there was no conviction' instead of actually SAYING the N-word on cable television.

BTW, racist/Nazi Furman not only lied about not having used the N-word, but he likely planted evidence on OJ and TONS of other African-Americans. He *admitted* to planting evidence on people (not OJ) to a playwright who interviewed him, prior to the Simpson case. That having been said... evidence planted, or not - OJ may very well have been guilty. I do not know enough about the case to make a judgment.

Lori Price

[boxster]

15. "I do not know enough about the case...."

Then, you obviously do not understand how huge an issue this was at the time. This wasn't merely about Furmann using the N word. It was about the racist attitude that permeated everything Furmann said and did in this case.

Instead of being upset with a guest on a talk show ten years later who is merely explaining why OJ "won", perhaps you should review the information available on the case itself where Furmann is concerned and the ramifications of his racist attitude.

And, as I stated in another response, this is not much different than news reports about Bill Parcells using the word "jap" in a news conference this week.

Should every news station that reported on the story apologize? Or is "jap" (which they all quoted, by the way) just not as offensive as the N word?

If your answer is that it is not, perhaps it depends on whom you ask.

[Lori Price CLG]

17. Once again: the guest (Slovis) was not *quoting,* hence, ...

there was ZERO NEED, even in the context of quoting 'accurately' to actually SAY the N-word on Faux. Since he was SUMMARIZING Furman's comments, he CERTAINLY should have said, 'Furman used the N-word, which...' within his commentary. Other networks, even while QUOTING someone stating the N-word, use the term N-word, and not the ACTUAL foul word.

I don't know what 'Jap' has to do with ANYTHING that I stated, at all. I didn't want to reopen the Simpson case in this thread. My point (which was purposely been obscured) was that any other network would not allow that term to hit air, or they would have apologized for its airing, if it could not have been stopped with delay technology.

Lori Price

[boxster]

26. Thank you for making my point for me.

Excuse me? You don't know what "Jap" has to do with your discussion?

"Jap" is a racist term, and to the Japanese it is JUST as offensive as the N-word is to African-Americans. In fact, it's probably more offensive, because the Japanese certainly don't refer to each other as "Japs".

But, since you don't seem to understand the problem with it, I guess it's ok by you to use it on TV. Nearly every news agency that covered the story quoted Parcells and didn't apologize.

Nor should they. They were referencing Parcells' quote, not making a racist remark about a group of people. Which is EXACTLY what was happening in your example.

And, sorry, but you're wrong. I've heard the N-word on most of the major networks at one time or another, usually in the context of historical references or quotes, which is EXACTLY what this was.

[Cheswick2.0]

29. Lori, you are absolutely correct

Thanks for making the point so clearly. Unfortunately some people just love to argue the politically incorrect view point at every occassion.

[Cronus Protagonist]

8. "Neoconservative" isn't racist

Oh, you mean the other n word....

BLAME BUSH FIRST!

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[Norquist Nemesis]

22. ROFLMFAO!!!

Cronus! That deserves some sort of DU trophy!

[lanparty]

30. Does Chappel and Snoop Dog apologize?????

If it's said in the context of allusion, then there is no need to apologize.