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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:50 PM
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Poll question: Who is the leader of our party?
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 10:01 PM by aldian159
Who is the leader of the Democratic Party?
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:52 PM
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1. Al Gore
I've always thought the party's leader was the last presidential nominee, until the next nominee takes the position. Wrong?
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sweetladybug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:58 PM
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5. Al Gore he since he was our last presidential nominee and he should be
sitting in the white house with the title "President Al Gore"
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:55 PM
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2. I had the weirdest feeling... because I really don't know! I chose
Clinton, but he really isn't, is he? I thought that the "leader" should be somebody WORKING ACTIVELY for party issues. And Clinton's position as an ex-president, or the writing of his book, or... so many possible reasons has not really been a "leader of the party." He is a symbol but leader? Help me here.
Daschel is out. Pelosi has been showing more and more courage but not enough coverage by the media. Kerry is our presumptive candidate but if I think about "THE PARTY"... maybe when he is the official candidate or THE PRESIDENT.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:56 PM
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3. When he is POTUS
he'll be the leader of the free world, and the Democratic Party.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:56 PM
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4. Who's John Jerry?
:P
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:59 PM
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6. I am amazed at how much I DON'T READ. Never even noticed it! n/t
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:47 AM
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22. Kerry is beating GB in every poll
Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 12:48 AM by TheWizardOfMudd
John's job is not to stand on a soap box and try to convince everyone to agree with him.

His job is to win the election.

As long as he is ahead, he is doing the correct thing by not making potentially negative waves.

ANYTHING to get that evil, moronic idiot out of office.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:06 AM
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24. Ah??? What is that all about? I didn't notice the poll had Kerry's name
as Jerry.
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:09 AM
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25. What are you? Dyslexic?
Kahn Jerry. Get it straight!

DOH!!!!!!!!!!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:11 AM
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26. I think you need sleep....
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:20 AM
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28. More Scotch
Great idea!
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:00 PM
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7. al gore is MY democratic party leader
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:03 PM
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8. Al Gore - no doubt about it.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:06 PM
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9. Al Gore
<sigh>

Miss him
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WhoDoYouTrust Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:13 PM
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12. Me, too!
Al is the leader of the party.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:02 AM
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30. i trust gore's leadership over all the rest
.
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:10 PM
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10. We lack one, we are the opposition
I don't like John Kerry, but he's better than the alternative.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:12 PM
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11. President-elect Al Gore
At least that's who it should be right now.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:14 PM
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I sense a theme here...
n/t
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:14 PM
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13. Dupe
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 10:14 PM by aldian159
Ignore
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:36 PM
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14. I give it to Nancy
especially when she is the next speaker!
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:57 PM
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15. John Kerry...
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 11:03 PM by flaminbats
Clinton was four years ago, just by virtue of being the Democrat with the most power and influence in government. In 1976 the most powerful Democrat was Mike Mansfield. From 77-81 it was Jimmy Carter. From 81 to 84 it was Tip O'Neill. In 84 Walter Mondale was briefly the leader of the party. Then Jim Wright was, until ousted as House Speaker. In 1988 Dukakis was the Democratic leader. Then the torch was passed to Senate Leader George Mitchell, which he carried until Clinton became President.

It can be argued that Tom Daschle was briefly the leading Democrat after Bush became President. But after the passage of Bush's tax cuts and losing the Senate in 2002...I think it is safe to state that our party has been leaderless until now. Now the question is where shall John Kerry lead us?
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Leprechan29 Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 11:13 PM
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16. Am I the only one
Who doesn't think we have much of a singular leader - We have Pelosi to lead the charge with legislation, Kerry to lead against the pres., and Clinton to provide the ideals...
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 11:21 PM
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18. No. Read my post (# 2). nt
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 11:30 PM
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19. Clinton should provide advice and knowledge...
Pelosi can't do much in a Republican House, which will not even allow votes on Democratic bills or amendments. The best we can hope for is to take every advantage of the filibuster in the Senate...if Daschle wasn't such a wimp!

Kerry IMHO should be providing us with the ideals and the vision. Why have a former President do what the nominee can only do himself?

Billy Joel.."The good ole days weren't always good, and tommorrow ain't as bad as it seems."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 11:19 PM
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17. Other...A bunch of Lobbyists & Pollster who make our party like the Repugs
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 11:21 PM by KoKo01
and Campaign Manager Hacks..that's who really leads our party.

Whom do I wish? Al Gore and Howard Dean.

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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:01 AM
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20. Kerry because
until the election, the party is going to do whatever he tells it to.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:12 AM
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21. Is that what leaders do?
:grouphug:
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:01 AM
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29. In some countries...
...this is what leaders do. Not places that I would want to live in.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:29 AM
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33. You may call them leaders, but I call them rats...
Put them in a maze and we could condition them to move down the path toward cheese or a path toward cocaine. Perhaps, if we really wanted to, we could make the more dominant rat addicted enough to kill other rats for that cocaine.

A leader listens to the people he or she represents, presents them with a vision to win support, and finds ways to inspire them or motivate them to unite behind an achievable objective. I find it doubtful that a rat could ever demonstrate those abilities.

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:51 AM
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23. head says Kerry. Heart says Clinton. I know what Clinton believes in,
and I'm willing to listen to any argument he wants to make, and 9 times out 10 I think I'm going to agree with him.

Whoever says Gore hasn't been reading the books I've been reading. The more I learn about the shit he did under Clinton (helping out wall st, privatization, the telecoms) and the more I read about Joe Lieberman whoring for the accounting firms, the more I think we're lucky this guy isn't hte leader of the party. I'm afraid of what he might have turned the party into.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:17 AM
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27. Kerry is the leader of the Democratic party
Now he just has to start acting like it . . .



I vote, does you?
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:10 AM
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31. We haven't had a leader...
...that consistently appealed to the nation as a whole in so long that I don't know what would happen if we ever found such a person.
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:15 AM
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32. Clinton is the rock star, but how the hell is he the leader?
Exactly in what direction has he led us for the last 3 years? Not to slight him, but has far as I can see, both he and Hillary have backed up Dumbya 100% the whole time. They both supported the invasion and NEVER contested Bush's ludicrous WMD claims.

If anyone, it's Nancy Pelosi. She's doing an admirable job.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 04:16 AM
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34. kick
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 08:42 AM
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37. He has the ability to persuade. And discouraging Democrats from arguing
that Democrats should try not to be perceived as the party that wouldn't look out for Americans' security is not "backing up Dumbya 100%." It's helping Democrats not have a hard time getting elected.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 05:28 AM
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35. We have a leader?!?!?!?
Shiat, I thought we were just a loose conglomerations of disparate (and sometimes diametrically opposed) factions held together only by our loathing of Repukes.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:28 AM
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36. The DLC
Also known as the "moderates". Should be known as the "moderate" wing of the Republicrat Party.
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