OK. We're definitely back in the '50s

[gauguin57]

The Freepers are dissing the practice of water floridation. For God's sake.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1152599/posts

Didn't we dispense with this nonsense in the 1950s, when it was determined that floridation was NOT a Communist plot to control our minds?

This is Pat Robertsonesque wack-job stuff.

Wow. Dubya really has taken us back to the '50s. Creepy.

[bobbieinok]

1. really working hard to take us back to the Gilded Age before TRoosevelt

[Cleita]

2. No I was alive in the fifties and it was a lot better than it was

since the eighties in this country. In the fifties the majority of the population had decent jobs and homes. There were no homeless. He has taken us back to the depression of the thirties, Hoovervilles and dust bowls. It's just our variation on the same theme.

[shraby]

3. Kids in school weren't a threat

to their teachers or others beyond a fist-fight between a couple of teen-age boys, cops could be trusted, we learned in school, drugs were something we saw in the movies, Moms were in the home for the most part unless they wanted a new washing machine. Anyone want to add?

[Cleita]

5. Well it wasn't that idyllic for the moms especially the single ones

as I remember. It was a sexist kind of slavery, but that could be a whole other thread, so I'll drop it for now. However, ordinary families were better off and yes kids were safer and teachers. I was in high school then.

[Nevernose]

20. School voilence is actually down...

...from where we began taking note of it, in the mid-sixties. The illageal drug rate has goen up, but the use of alcohol has actually declined. A substantial portion of cops have always been corrupt; ever see "The Untouchables?". The myth of stay-at-home-moms is just that -- a myth. Most mothers in urban areas have worked outside the home, at least since the industrial revolution of the 1880's.

[T Town Jake]

6. Well...

...I'd sure like to have the economic prosperity of the 1950's back, but there are a few things I'm glad we don't have around anymore. Like segregation, Joe McCarthy, and every woman expected to be a Stepford wife...to name a few.

[Cleita]

10. This is true. But what happened that we had to give up the

things that worked for us? Instead of moving forward to fix the wrong things, we lost it all. Of course Vietnam had so much to do with it. This wrongness has seemed to have consumed most of my life and I feel that I have been helpless in stopping it.

[T Town Jake]

12. Excellent point...

...I wonder sometimes about this. I think some of it definitely had to do with the events in Dallas, Texas on Nov. 22, 1963. LBJ meant well, he gave us the Great Society, after all, but Vietnam was handled so poorly that the backlash gave us Nixon. Had my avatar lived, and beaten Nixon, I think alot of things would've been sorted out. Not perfectly, maybe, but a hell of a lot better than what we ended up with.
I'm rambling, I know, but that's a big subject to consider. I guess I just really don't have a ready-made answer. :shrug:
It is definitely worth thinking about, though.

[Cleita]

14. I just saw something so interesting tonight and I never

connected the dots. But it was about Bobby Kennedy's pursuit of Jimmy Hoffa because he was connected to the mob. When John Kennedy was assassinated Bobby lost interest in pursuing Hoffa anymore. Then of course he was assassinated by Sirhan after that. I actually watched his death on TV that awful night. But this new perspective started a bunch of questions in my mind tonight. What do you think?

[T Town Jake]

16. Well...

...I know that Hoffa did wind up in a Federal prison, and that Nixon pardoned him. There was so much funny business going on back then. I was very, very young, and only came to be a huge Bobby Kennedy fan later, after reading about him in college. But I do remember, young as I was, to look out whenever the networks would cut into programming with "This is a bulletin from ABC/CBS/NBC news..." (on a side note: my children simply REFUSE to believe me when I tell them I grew up with exactly FOUR stations to watch - the three networks and PBS! LOL). That always meant bad stuff was about to announced - I could see my parent's reaction. They usually sent me out of the room. Even for a youngster like myself, it seemed a troubling time in the big world outside of the four walls of our home, though my parents shielded me from it as best they could.
BTW, what program was that? I'd be interested in seeing it.

[Cleita]

17. You know what I think there was more quality programming

back when we only had four or five stations. I mean it was inexpensively produced, but the quality of the subject matter, writing acting or journalism, depending on what you were watching was much better. I know the sets and lighting were often cheesy, but you didn't notice that much because you let your imagination compensate for it.

[Blue Wally]

23. Fifties not all that great

We went into a recession in 1958 that pretty much lasted until the Kennedy tax cuts kicked in. Unemployment (at least in Detroit) was high in the 58-62 era.

[StClone]

4. Rebut these silly statements!

1) It violates the individual's right to informed consent to medication.
2) The municipality cannot control the dose of the patient.
3) The municipality cannot track each individual's response.
4) It ignores the fact that some people are more vulnerable to fluoride's toxic effects than others. Some people will suffer while others may benefit.
5) It violates the Nuremberg code for human experimentation

[xxqqqzme]

7. why? let them wallow in their

ignorance. pathetic

[lectrobyte]

8. I guess they can no longer, in the words of General "Jack" Ripper,

sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

[lectrobyte]

9. that's a Dr. Strangelove ref, in case anyone doesn't get the joke <nt>

[No2W2004]

11. Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.

Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.

You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

[Arianrhod]

13. They were preparing us for 1947.

It's a fact we didn't have microwave ovens before then.

[Cleita]

15. I didn't have a microwave until 1977.

eom

[TheWizardOfMudd]

18. Don't most nutritionists say that flouride is bad for our bodies?

Not in a paranoid or conspiratorial way, but as a scientific matter?

[Kazak]

19. Hmmm, well...

the fifties were a response to the attack on Pearl Harbor...so, you may be onto something there, though following strictly that logic, that would put us in the mid to late forties.

[fujiyama]

21. If we're back in the fifties

I'll take Eisenhower over Bush any day of the week.

[neverborn]

22. We must not allow a mine shaft gap!

[timtom]

24. I'd say that there's cause for alarm

or at least extreme caution.

A quick Google revealed this link:

http://www.nofluoride.com/

(Sorry about not making the link active -- I have my Javascript turned off and I can't remember the DU code)

[timtom]

25. (I didn't need to do anything to make the link active)

I just wanted to point out that I've never cared one way or the other about this issue. It's just that in the past year or two, I've been aware of some health issues at stake with fluoride. I haven't critically analyzed that site. Just thought it might be a good place to start.