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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:39 AM
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The Wash Times is critical of BushCo! the sky is falling, folks!
Commentary: Terror reality and rhetoric
By Christian Bourge
UPI Congressional and Policy Correspondent

Washington, DC, Jun. 11 (UPI) -- Claims by President Bush, and embraced by many lawmakers on Capitol Hill, that the United States is winning the war on terror have been shot down by news that the number of terrorist incidents and victims increased sharply in 2003, an important fact buried in today's major newspapers.

The U.S. State Department announced in April that terrorism was on the decline last year, but the agency acknowledged Thursday that the achievement -- touted by the Bush campaign and administration as a sign that the White House policies were, in the words of Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, "prevailing" over the evildoers of the world -- was wrong.

The original report said that terrorist attacks declined to 190 last year, the lowest level in 34 years and down from 198 in 2002 and 346 in 2001, a 45-percent drop since Bush's first year in office.

The agency is not reportedly working to determine what the actual figures are but has said the increase would be marked.

While the numbers are not likely to be as high as 2001, such information should be kept in mind in the face of prognostications from the president and his allies in Congress that the war on terror is being won.

The United States may have won some battles and managed to disrupt plots and global funding for al-Qaida with 10 leading financiers of the group captured or killed in the last two years according to the CIA, but when the number of attacks increases -- even if they are not in the United States -- it means the opposite of this claim is arguably true.

The war is not being won, but is ongoing and could even be interpreted in the short term as going in the favor of terrorists.

snip...
The reality is that the American public needs to recognize that while they should not to be extremely fearful of a possible attack, they are statistically more likely to be killed in a car accident than be killed in a terrorist attack in the United States -- the political rhetoric is spouted by politicians to calm their fears.

More often than not its intent is to disguise the facts about situation in which they have little real expertise.

more at link (worth a read, because of the source and because it IS EXTREMELY CRITICAL).
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040611-010243-9338r.htm

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:49 AM
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1. This friggin administration
just simply can't tell the truth whether it's about rain in Texas or terrorist activities, and they expect people to believe that more people are finding jobs. :crazy:
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:52 AM
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2. Damn! That didn't pull punches at all...
My first inclination was to think they were only trying to justify ramping up the war on terra but I kept on reading they just slap the administration silly all the way through it. Amazing!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:57 AM
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3. Isn't it? I did the same: kept on reading, and reading, looking for
the apologia to BushCo... and NOTHING!!!!
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 03:13 AM
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5. Thx Apple...EOM
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 03:01 AM
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4. wow
goodness...

will wonders ever cease
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 03:27 AM
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6. that was excellent
Not only did it speak the truth, but it told people how they should react to the propaganda. Amazing.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 04:29 AM
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8. Has Moon come to his senses?
Or, is he still a ranting lunatic?

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:21 AM
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22. He would love to see the fall of the American Empire
then he can take over and have the whole place to himself.

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TexasMexican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 04:28 AM
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7. The sky is literally falling guys...
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 06:34 AM
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9. No fair... did you read the post in that thread saying that it might be
frozen feces falling from an airplane???
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 06:56 AM
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10. It's UPI carried by the Wash. Times, not the Wash. Times
n/t
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:37 AM
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17. I have news for you: MOON OWNS UPI also. That is why Helen Thomas
left UPI (she is one of the few honest journalists left...)
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 04:06 PM
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29. I was just being accurate.
It helps occasionally, don't you think?
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 06:56 AM
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11. I want to know
Is the sky falling in big enough pieces that your average freeper will notice?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 10:04 AM
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25. wait til one crushes his outhouse, then he'll see n/t
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 06:59 AM
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12. I'm stunned
Getting the truth from the Washington Times? Think maybe somebody put something in the water over there that makes them tell the truth? If so, I wish they would share it with the NYT so that they could start telling it too. What is the world coming to when you find an article like that one in the Wash. Times, and not in the New York Times? :wtf:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:00 AM
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13. Gee I recalled 2 or 3 bombing a week and did not believe the govt
when they said they were down, when I was hearing about one a day, but then I lived Vietnam and are starting to see the same pattern. No one in this govt tells us anything near the truth. I figured it was Bush and his way with numbers. You know 7 is less than 2 or 3
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:16 AM
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14. Did Raygun's Corpse Wake Up The "PaleoCons"?
Damn that's stinging stuff from the Moonie Times. You wouldn't have seen that article a month ago. But I'm suspicious as all hell. Is this another Rove game of divert, paste blame elsewhere and inoculate your boy from further damage?

It appears last week under Raygun's "glow", the GOOPies really got together for the first time and the angst of some have started to spread to others. There's gotta be a faction growing within even that evil-possesed party to purge the elements that could cost some of these people their offices and power.

What we might be starting to see is a "wedge"...a place Repugnicans can run to so they can play "deaf & dumb" as the regime goes down. Those who go on record now before the real shit hits can always cite back to this article or that TV appearance and try to save their asses.

As I kept thinking and saying last week, we're in for some fun weeks ahead here.

Cheers!
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:23 AM
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15. Like rats deserting a shinking ship. . .
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:32 AM
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16. These Rats Should Be Singled Out...
Just like we saw a decade ago when Clinton went from media darling (and, yes he was for a brief wink of time) to "Slick Willie" there were "journalists" like Hitchens and others who used the opportunity to hop on the growing "Conservative" wave...it also opened the gates for "moderates" to lean right as well. I think we might be seeing the first movements of the pendulum coming back the other way.

As a creature of the 60's and 70's, I remember when there was a vibrant "counter-culture"...where it was "cool" to be anti-establishment. I know it sounds so passe and "That 70's Show-ish" now, but it was a real feeling that bonded a generation in those days. I think many of us can relate to the feeling that a majority of those under 30 were of a liberal or progressive mindset...and I believe that still remains in that majority, it's just been busys the past 25 years surviving, raising families but is now starting to awake...unfortunately to a similar mess that we were confronted with back in 1968.

I keep tempering my more "excited" liberal and progressive friends that we've seen the crest of the Conservative wave and the overplaying of their hand. Right now, I'm enjoying watching the GOOPies attempt to justify among themselves the many hypocricies that are in ever growing conflict.

Popcorn anyone?
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:02 AM
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20. Criticism from paleocons had already begun with Pat Buchanan.
He has consistently opposed the neocons and Bushco ever since the "war" began.

(I put "war" in quotemarks because THERE HAS BEEN NO FORMAL DECLARATION OF WAR BY CONGRESS. Still, it's wrong, no matter what you call it.)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:18 AM
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21. Pat Was An Early, Lone Voice...
And look what MessyNBC did with him and Bill Press during the height of Bushbotmania...they first got buried (like CNN did with Crossfire) and then cancelled them. Pitchfork Pat had to cool his heels for a while with John McLaughlin, but lately has been getting more and more mug time.

I respect Pat for sticking to his convictions of non-intervention throughout and he's one of those now giving shelter to selected "bretheren" who will soon be looking for "dissenter" like Buchanan or McCain.

There are times when I wish that Buchanan was again the only wingnut voice on the tube...but then we'd have to relive Tom Braden.

Cheers!
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:27 AM
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23. Whether you love him or hate him, he's been right
I don't agree with much of what Pat says about domestic affairs, but he has been right all along about the Chimp's foreign adventure.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:46 AM
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18. Bush will just use it as an exuse. Remember his 'war on terror'
would be long and his goal is to kill the terrorists (I don't believe this steaming pile of crazy cattle cack about bringing them to "justice" one bit. They don't know what justice is, they'd knock off any dissenters dead tomorrow if they could.)

Is * making more terrorists DELIBERATELY? That is the question.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 08:53 AM
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19. kick for the morning crowd. n/t
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:53 AM
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24. LittleApple81
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
news source.

Thank you.


DU Moderator
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 10:24 AM
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27. Sorry. I did it really late last night. Must have miscounted.
Since I cannot edit now, could you do it for me? I don't want to get DU or me into trouble.
Thanks.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 10:19 AM
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26. "The most lying, crooked..." n/t
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 11:11 AM
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28. Is Moon trying to assert some power over the WH?
That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Despite the Wash. Times' claims, there is strong evidence that it does not have editorial independence from Moon and his followers:

http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2003/12/washington-times-cult-favorite.html
http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2003/11/think-of-excitement-if-scientology.html
http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2004/01/times-insight-supplement-increasingly.html
http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2003/11/new-upi-editors-journalism-oath-to-rev.html

I am constanly dumbfounded by the fact that a true story as sensational as Moon, his media ownership, and his influence in politics has not been covered in-depth by other mainstream media.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 04:35 PM
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30. Waxman gets a thank you call from me tomorrow...
"The original figures were challenged by Rep. Henry A. Waxman, D-Calif., who is proving to be a continuous thorn in the side of the Bush White House on several high-profile policy issues."

His "thorniness" is deserving of a thanks!

800-839-5276

Thanks for the article!

Kanary
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 04:37 PM
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31. I sure hope the Kerry campaign is paying attention........
"If used properly, the news of faulty Bush administration boasts could be a boost to Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, who is trailing Bush on the issue of national security. "

Let's hope another opportunity isn't passed by.....

Kanary
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