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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:59 PM
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Can a Kerry executive order over-ride a Bush executive order?
Was wondering specifically about this because Dubya has made this weird executive order trying to keep former presidents' papers from being released (see text below).

I want to see ALL of Ray-guns papers come to light!

Hoping Kerry, if elected, will overturn Dubya's executive order on this.

Though the library opened in November 1991, only 10% of the papers from Reagan's eight years in office have been released, archivists said. That is partly because of the sheer volume of documents generated during his administration and the painstaking process of preparing such a historical mother lode for release, officials said.

Academics are more worried about an executive order issued by President Bush in 2001 that they say could indefinitely shield from public view, or at least further delay the release of, some of the late president's most sensitive documents.

The order bars archivists from releasing any former president's records without the approval of the sitting president and the former president, or a representative. Currently being challenged in court, the order overrides the Presidential Records Act of 1978, which established that a president's papers were not private property and set a 12-year limit on keeping communications between a president and his advisors secret.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20040613/ts_latimes/recordstrickleoutofreaganlibrary


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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:00 PM
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1. Yes
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:03 PM
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3. Good argument - very eloquent!
:bounce:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:06 PM
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4. Hey I answered the question legally..he can! What do you want?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:02 PM
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2. Yes
Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 02:03 PM by WilliamPitt
http://www.free-definition.com/Executive-order.html

Executive order

- definition, meaning, explanation & information in free-definition.com -

An executive order is a legally binding edict issued by a member of the executive branch of a government, usually the head of that branch.

In the United States, Presidents have issued executive orders since 1789. There is no Constitutional law or statute that explicitly permits this, aside from the vague grant of "executive power" given in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution and the statement "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" in Article II, Section 3. However, executive orders have legal force unless in conflict with a law approved by the Legislative or a court decision by the Judicial branch of government.

Most executive orders are directed to various Federal Administrative Agencies or departments of the Executive Branch to help orchestrate those agencies in their duties. Other executive orders, called Proclamations, serve a more ceremonial purpose, such as declaring new holidays and celebrations. Others, known as National Security Directives or Presidential Decision Directives, deal with national security and defense.

Until the early 1900s, executive orders went mostly unannounced and undocumented, seen only by the agencies to which they were directed. Others have simply been lost due to natural decay and poor record keeping. However, the State Department instituted a numbering system for executive orders in the early 1900s, starting retroactively with President Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation in 1862. Today, only those executive orders dealing with issues of national security are kept from the public.

Until the 1950s, there were no rules or guidelines outlining what the President could or could not do through an executive order. However, the Supreme Court ruled that an executive order from President Harry S. Truman that placed all steel mills in the country under federal control was invalid because it attempted to make law, rather than clarify or act to further a law put forth by the Congress or the Constitution. Presidents since this decision have generally been careful to cite which specific laws they are allegedly furthering when making new executive orders.

Many critics have accused the Presidents of abusing executive orders, both to make new laws without Congressional approval and to move existing laws away from their original mandates. Large policy changes with wide-ranging effects have been passed into law through executive order, including the integration of the Armed Forces under Harry Truman and the desegregation of public schools under Dwight D. Eisenhower. Even entire wars have been fought upon executive order, including Bill Clinton's 1999 Kosovo War. Critics fear that the President could make himself a de facto dictator by side-stepping the other branches of government and making autocratic laws. The Presidents, however, cite executive order as often the only way to clarify laws passed through the Congress, laws which often require vague wording in order to please all political parties involved in their creation.

To date, the courts have only overturned two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order, and a 1996 order issued by President Bill Clinton which attempted to prevent the U.S. government from contracting with organizations that had "strikebreakers" on the payroll. Likewise, the Congress may also overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it or refusing to approve funding to enforce it. Because the President retains the power to veto such a decision, however, the Congress usually needs a 2/3 majority to override a veto and truly end an executive order.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:07 PM
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5. Thanks for clarifying that.... I've been meaning to research the issue...
But just hadn't gotten around to it.

Reassuring and something we will have to "get on" when (I dearly pray) Kerry takes office...
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I thought so. Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:08 PM
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6. Yes. And also,
Kerry can use the Patriot Act to clean up the rest of the mess.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:13 PM
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7. I guess Dubya's also trying to shield Poppy
and his criminal buddies shipping arms to terrorists during Iran-Contra--I'm sure some interesting info will come to light on all that.

I'd love to see all these papers come to light.

Nobody better put Reagan's name on another GD thing until we all get a look at these papers.





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