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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:24 AM
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Ashcroft press confrence RE Ohio AlQeada bomb plot suspects
Edited on Mon Jun-14-04 10:42 AM by cheezus
just heard on msnbc. expected at 11:30 est

on now, 11:42 est
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:28 AM
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1. Not another!
This A-hole is always coming out with his big announcements and they almost always turn out to be bogus.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:30 AM
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2. the teaser they gave the networks was...
that they caught guys with arab sounding names in ohio that were planning on bombing shopping malls in ohio.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:32 AM
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4. specifics, from msnbc
crimal charges filed against
neredne abde, 32, of somolia (name NOT spelled close to right)
associate of iman ferris
plotting to blow up shopping malls in the columbus ohio area
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:38 AM
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6. I bet there are dozens by now
This why I shop at outlet stores. Seriously.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:45 AM
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10. I'd guess you run a higher risk driving to the store
than being blown up there. Terrorism is just another random, rarely occuring, low chance of being involved event that can kill us. I'm not going to change my life.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:12 AM
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18. you're right...
... automobile accidents are still a higher killer than anything in the US. I could be wrong, but I think that statistic still stands.

I have a sister-in-law that's still afraid to get on a plane because of 9/11. Even though, on that day, the American citizen had a 1/1,000,000 chance of physically being involved in that horror.

Human beings are so irrational sometimes, well, most of the time actually.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:31 AM
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Is this the old case or the new case....
They've been picking up arabs in the northeastern part of the state (I'd guess about a dozen now) since 9/11. Several were charged in money funneling cases back to bogus charities in the Middle East. By bogus, I mean charities on the terror list. I can't recall a case where someone was a bombmaker.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:31 AM
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3. Is this the old case or the new case....
They've been picking up arabs in the northeastern part of the state (I'd guess about a dozen now) since 9/11. Several were charged in money funneling cases back to bogus charities in the Middle East. By bogus, I mean charities on the terror list. I can't recall a case where someone was a bombmaker.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:40 AM
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7. Probably not a case at all.
Just another publicity stunt.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:32 AM
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5. Yeah. . .another Padilla. . .
:kick:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:43 AM
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8. Will He Also Bungle This Case Like He's Bungled Every Other Case?
"Judge, I have double top-secret evidence that they are guilty of what I say they're guilty of. I wish I could show you the evidence, but like I said, it's double top-secret, so you'll just have to take my word that's it's very damning! Look, these guys aren't white, so they MUST be terrorists! Trust me!"
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:25 AM
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20. "Barring that, your honor, find some technicality that will allow me to
hold him until Kerry is elected and he becomes their problem!"
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:43 AM
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9. started at 11:42 est
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onefodderunit Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:46 AM
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11. Ohio is a Battleground State After All
Just call me Cynic in Chief.

Have there been ANY successful prosecutions yet by the best and the brightest at the DOJ in this "War on terror".
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:51 AM
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14. Actually, yes, a few
They busted some guys who were in Buffalo, I think there were like 5 of them. If I remember correctly, some of them testified against each other. I believe they convicted some of them, or all, can't remember.

There have also been dozens of charges and convictions concerning money laundering back to groups on the terror lists.

They just arrested some blind cleric out in Oregon also. Set for trial.

But, overall, they are far behind Reno's DOJ in terms of convictions.
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onefodderunit Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:14 AM
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19. Well, by crikey a few convictions are worth all of it!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 01:26 PM
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22. Hi onefodderunit!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:47 AM
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12. hmm... so law enforcement IS the way to get terrorists
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:50 AM
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13. cnn and msnbc just left it.......too boooooooooring
everyone already knows what he has to say
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:58 AM
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15. Lemme guess. This plot was foiled using the super secret domestic
spying provisions of the Patriot Act monitoring message traffic on Democratic message boards and library usage patterns of liberal housewives. Torture was needed to obtain the information for the arrests, but thousands of lives were saved. The operation was a great success and we have the suspects dead to rights but we are unable to charge them with any crime or allow them to see a lawyer and must detain them in this status indefinitely because of the doctrine of necessity.

The foiled terrorists all were wearing John Kerry 2004 T-Shirts when arrested.

Did I miss anything?
:eyes:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:01 AM
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16. damn! what are you a psychic?
Edited on Mon Jun-14-04 11:01 AM by mopaul
you didn't even see it and you recited it verbatim. amazing psychic powers! do you also talk to the dead? i'd like to ask reagan a few things.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:10 AM
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17. I AM good, aren't I? It's just that I'm completely in tune with this
administration now... I can see it all so clearly, the need for, the wisdom of all these wack policies...

As clearly as if I was shot through the forehead with a diamond bullet...

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 12:02 PM
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21. Nobody believes him anymore. WHICH IS DANGEROUS like crying wolf.
Did you see the Wash TIMES article on DU yesterday? they were talking about Ashcroft's alarms!!!the moonie paper, the Washington Times.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1781377
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