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anti_shrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:04 PM
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Here's a question for the doubters: Why help elect Bush?
To all the people with furrowed brows over the fact that Kerry doesn't meet your candidate requirements 100%, why do you think keeping someone who meets maybe 10% of your requirements is better?

This year, your voting options are basically this:

A. Kerry

B. Bush

C. Nader

D. Don't Vote


Choosing B, C, and D ensure that nothing you want done will get done.

So does failing to choose A.


Kerry's not perfect but how can anyone even question that he's a vast improvement over what we currently are subjected to? At least Kerry isn't locked into a religiously mandated ideology while completely walling himself in from anyone who has a dissenting opinion.


Please don't forget that this election is so much bigger than the Presidency. Whoever is in power the next 4 years will probably have to replace at least one or maybe even 2 Supreme Court justices. Do you really want to have Bush be the one who gets to stock the highest court in the land with judges who want to party like its 1955?

I'm sure I'll get arrows flung by people who say that people who point out things like these are trying to bully people into voting for Kerry. The truth is that people like me simply cannot fathom why anyone would even consider doing something that will help Bush stay in power for another term.


If its the war, I don't know what to tell you. Some folks here seem reluctant to support anyone who won't immediately pull all troops out of Iraq. Guess what, that isn't possible because of the mess BUSH made. It sucks, but the next Dem to be President is going to be spending a considerable amount of time cleaning up Bush's messes in nearly every aspect. If we pull out before we have any semblance of order in Iraq, you have a very high chance of creating another hostile Islamic theocracy like Iran. We need to break the cycle of Republican Presidents creating enemies that future Republican Presidents send our troops in to fight against.

I know that the thought of voting for Kerry is very off putting for a lot of you, but the thought of people on our side not doing everything they can to unseat the Bush cabal is off-putting to a greater number.

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Leprechan29 Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:07 PM
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1. Well put
and calmly nonetheless...
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:09 PM
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2. Of course you're right.
The election is between Kerry and Bush. If we still have to explain that here, it becomes tiring.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:10 PM
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3. I think JK is the best candidate for the job
since a large part of it will be cleaning up the messes Bush left us. We need a man who can deal on a world wide stage, as well as knowing how to get things done on the Hill

JK is the only choice IMHO
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:15 PM
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4. I was ABB, now I am WBWCDB (warm body who can defeat bush).
And at this point in the game it IS Kerry.

I dislike the body politics. I am on DU not because I like politics but because I am worried about America and the world. I am not fascinated by Kerry. He has a very liberal voting record in the Senate and that is a PLUS for me. But being a politician in Washington for, how many years, over 30? is not a very HIGH recommendation in my book about anybody.

Again, at this point in the game it is Kerry or (shudder, cry, weep for America) GWB.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:18 PM
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5. his years in DC are one of the things going for him
I am tired of watching governors come in and not be able to get a darn thing done in Washington

Let's let an old DC dog take em on :)
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:22 PM
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7. As I said, for my own reasons, Kerry must be it for me. I am too
terrified of the alternative...not only for AMERICA but for the world.
Have you heard Sibel Edmonds's interview today with Mark Levine? (I have a thread about it in GD?) IT IS SO DEPRESSING. I HOPE WE WILL SUCCEED AND SAVE NOT ONLY normal people but THE FUNDIE RIGHTWINGERS despite their stupidity.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:23 PM
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8. thanks for the Siebel Edmunds thing, saw her on Democracy Now!
Edited on Mon Jun-14-04 11:23 PM by AZDemDist6
but that has been a while
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 10:20 PM
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6. bwah ha ha 10% my tush. there is no 10% i like about bushie boy
ya boy, you boy you. use to call him pig. was a terret thing and pig would come out. now, he is a bushie boy to me. emphasis on boy
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:26 PM
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9. your list is a bit premature....
Edited on Mon Jun-14-04 11:30 PM by mike_c
The Greens haven't had their convention yet, although there remains a chance that they will endorse Nader's campaign. And IIRC there is a libertarian candidate too.

All these suggestions that folks who can't vote for Kerry in good conscience because he doesn't "meet (their) candidate requirements 100%" seek to create the impression that we're all a bunch of nit-picking ninnies who can't see the forest for the trees. Kerry doesn't "meet my candidate requirements" even 50 percent-- he doesn't come close on the liberal, progressive, anti-war issues that are important to me. He's Bush lite, without the neo-con puppet masters.

on edit: if we take Kerry at his words, choosing A will equally insure that the left doesn't get what it wants. I think Kerry is going to win by a landslide. I just wish a real liberal were in that position.
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:27 PM
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10. You have no argument from me. The message needs to be hammered home!
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