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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:06 AM
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MP morale is low at Iraqi prisons. Boo-frickin-hoo.
As Dubya might mangle, you reap what you sow.

Prison guards dispirited by scandal
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5227395

BAGHDAD - Sgt. Adam Baker never imagined that when he shipped out to Iraq it would be to a prison camp 300 miles south of the capital in the middle of a desert of blowing white sand.

Baker was trained as a forward observer in a National Guard field artillery unit. Rather than scouting enemy troop positions, he stands guard over security detainees at Camp Bucca, a U.S. military holding facility for more than 2,000 prisoners. He said his job has been made more difficult by the abuse scandal at the Abu Ghraib prison west of Baghdad.

"I can't tell you the anguish you go through," said Baker, 22, a short, baby-faced soldier from Pittsburgh. "All this goes down at Abu Ghraib. You can't do anything about it, and you feel" miserable...
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:08 AM
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1. Karpinski was grossly incompetent
I wonder why they kept her in charge for that long.
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Torgo4 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:18 AM
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3. Karpinski is gonna drag down Sanchez and the whole crew of Gulag Guys!
I do believe the spooks/MI types ordered her to:
Do what they say and,
Keep quiet.

And that it came all the way from Cheney/Rummy down the chain, FYI to Dubya who doesn't read anyway.

Turn 'em over to Iraqis, from lowest private to highest civilian.

Apologize, and begin the generation-long-at-a-minimum work to rehabilitate US image.

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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:11 AM
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2. Boo-frickin-hoo indeed.
These soldiers can atone for their comrades by demonstrating the highest degree of professionalism, and REFUSING orders to TORTURE.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:21 AM
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4. This is the fault of Bush, not the MP.
Unless we are going to have the troops decide which orders they want to follow and which they do not, I'd say that the blame rests with those who put them in the situation. They did not sow what they are reaping.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:23 AM
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6. Paid assassins always reap what they sow
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:30 AM
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8. They're OUR paid assassins, bucko...
... if you want to get bitchy about it.

If you just have some moral problem with militaries, fine. I'll just tell my dad and my uncle that they were nothing but paid assassins.
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pnb Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:30 PM
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9. Every soldier is a paid assassin?
If not, what do you mean?
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pnb Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:23 AM
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5. What's with the "boo-frickin-hoo" crap?
Baker and others should be smeared by the actions of other assholes?

I say, save the "boo-frickin-hoo" unless the current crop wind up guilty of the same offenses. Until then, you can acknowledge that their predecessors did put them in a tougher position then necessary.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:23 AM
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7. It's not just there
Morale's been pretty low in the US, too, since 2000.

Sabriel
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