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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:37 AM
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John Dean: Bush broke these laws if he knew CIA name was being leaked:

United States Code
TITLE 50 - WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE
CHAPTER 15 - NATIONAL SECURITY
SUBCHAPTER IV - PROTECTION OF CERTAIN NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION

Section 421. Protection of identities of certain United States undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants, and sources

(a) Disclosure of information by persons having or having had
access to classified information that identifies covert agent
Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified
information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses
any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not
authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the
information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the
United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert
agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be
fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or
both.

(b) Disclosure of information by persons who learn identity of
covert agents as result of having access to classified
information
Whoever, as a result of having authorized access to classified
information, learns the identify of a covert agent and
intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert
agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified
information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies
such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative
measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship
to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned
not more than five years, or both.

(c) Disclosure of information by persons in course of pattern of
activities intended to identify and expose covert agents
Whoever, in the course of a pattern of activities intended to
identify and expose covert agents and with reason to believe that
such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence
activities of the United States, discloses any information that
identifies an individual as a covert agent to any individual not
authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the
information disclosed so identifies such individual and that the
United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such
individual's classified intelligence relationship to the United
States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than
three years, or both.

(d) Imposition of consecutive sentences
A term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be
consecutive to any other sentence of imprisonment.


AND

United States Code
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 19 - CONSPIRACY

Section 371. Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense
against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any
agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of
such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy,
each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object
of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such
conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for
such misdemeanor.

Dean: http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20040604.html

But from what I have learned from those who have been quizzed by the Fitzgerald investigators it seems unlikely that they are interviewing the President merely as a matter of completeness, or in order to be able to defend their actions in front of the public. Asking a President to testify - or even be interviewed - remains a serious, sensitive and rare occasion. It is not done lightly. Doing so raises separation of powers concerns that continue to worry many.

Instead, it seems the investigators are seeking to connect up with, and then speak with, persons who have links to and from the leaked information - and those persons, it seems, probably include the President. (I should stress, however, that I do not have access to grand jury testimony, and that grand jury proceedings are secret. But the facts that are properly public do allow some inference and commentary about what likely is occurring in the grand jury.)

-snip-

If Bush is called before the grand jury, it is likely because Fitzgerald believes that he knows much more about this leak than he has stated publicly.

Perhaps Bush may have knowledge not only of the leaker, but also of efforts to make this issue go away - if indeed there have been any. It is remarkably easy to obstruct justice, and this matter has been under various phases of an investigation by the Justice Department since it was referred by the CIA last summer.

-SNIP-

ALL I CAN SAY IS: GIULIANI/SHELBY '04??
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:39 AM
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1. How fast can we move on all of this, though?
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:41 AM
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2. The Answer is we can't move on it
Congress is controlled by the Repukes and the high courts in the back pockets of these buggers.

With the Attorney General being a nazi who the hell is going to do anything?

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:50 AM
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4. Hello! You're missing something important here.
This is a smoking gun, something they never had on Clinton. This wouldn't be like the long, drawn out Clinton impeachment trial, it would be shorter than the Nixon impeachment, which took 6 weeks from the smoking gun being revealed to his resignation.

With Cable News shouting that the President has been indicted for knowing that Plame's name was going to be leaked by Rove and Cheney, and then him doing his famous nothing, he would last 2 or 3 weeks.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:58 AM
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9. It depends on the democrats
They can force the republicans to act if they demand this be addressed. They have to go to the media, talk about it on the senate floor and not shut up until they shame the pugs into action. If they think they are in good shape to win anyway I doubt they will do the right thing.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:00 PM
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10. Unfortunately, we're stuck with the democrats we have in Congress
Limp as can be, for the most part.

Only is the six months have a few of them shown some life.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:45 AM
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3. In Watergate, it took about 6 weeks.
If Fitzgerald announces Bush/Cheney indictiments in the Cable News Era it would probably only take 2 to 3 weeks in an election year as the Repubs in Congress will scramble to keep their seats and the plush perks and salaries. With the Nixon precedent, just the confirmation of impeachment and both would be gone before the actual articles are voted on.

Then Giuliani pardons both of them before they have to do hard time.

Maybe Giuliani/Graham (Lindsey)?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:53 AM
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5. Witnesses drop the dime on Bush
Witnesses told a federal grand jury President George W. Bush knew about, and took no action to stop, the release of a covert CIA operative's name to a journalist in an attempt to discredit her husband, a critic of administration policy in Iraq.

Their damning testimony has prompted Bush to contact an outside lawyer for legal advice because evidence increasingly points to his involvement in the leak of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame's name to syndicated columnist Robert Novak.
The move suggests the president anticipates being questioned by prosecutors. Sources say grand jury witnesses have implicated the President and his top advisor, Karl Rove.

White House spokesmen, however, dismiss the hiring of outside counsel as a routine precaution.

-snip-


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4629.shtml
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:21 AM
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6. kick
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:31 AM
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8. Unsourced and suspicious as hell...
Can't figure if the Capitol Hil Blue is reliable or a rag....I'm leaning toward the latter although I home it's the former. :)
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:28 AM
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7. You can't "impeach" a "Dictator for Life."
OOps.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 05:12 PM
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11. Kick for Lady Liberty
:)
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