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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:18 PM
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Is it true Ollie North got contract to "interrogate" prisoners in Iraq?
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 04:29 PM by kentuck
I recall reading that someplace this morning? Was that on DU? If so, what are the details about that? Does he own the company? Was the company one of the private firms accused of torture? Can anyone help with this info?
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Jabbery Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:21 PM
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1. Yes - he has ownership
It is true. North has ownership in the company in question. That criminal felon puswad continues to wallow in an ever deepening ocean of slime and evil. He is the anti-Christ.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:24 PM
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3. well holy schmoly....
funny how things still shock you even though you feel you are jaded enough to withstand anything...

Maybe THIS had something to do with him not showing up for Runny's funeral, and not what he said about 'taking away the spotlight from him'.

jebus this is getting nuts.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:41 PM
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8. Jabbery, do you have a link?
in regards to Ollie and ownership related to Abu. please.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:24 PM
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2. You know what would be truly shocking?
If North had no connection to it and spoke out against that sort of behavior.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:27 PM
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4. Where is the link, this will be the one piece that pushes me off the edge.
No way, Ollie owns a piece of the corporation responsible for the contractors, responsible for the torture? That is it for me, there will be no Congressperson that get's a moment of rest from the phone calls, faxes and negative PR they are about to receive for this travesty if it is true. I won't stop screaming till the BrownShirts come to get me!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:31 PM
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5. Here's the link
there may be more on Buzzflash too.

<http://globalresearch.ca/articles/STA406A.html>
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:38 PM
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6. Just found it by going to google........and mods, this is fair use........
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 04:40 PM by anarchy1999
Torture Incorporated
Oliver North Joins the Party
by John Stanton and Wayne Madsen
www.globalresearch.ca 14 June 2004
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/STA406A.html


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The U.S. Army has employed as many as 27 contractors to run its interrogation operations, according to media reports. But while CACI and Titan are getting all the mainstream media play, it appears that far more than 27 contract employees were involved in recruiting and placing interrogators in various locations. Some of the firms involved in the Bush administration’s "TortureGate" include an odd assortment of telecommunications companies and executive placement firms that have jumped into the lucrative torture business in Guantanamo Bay, Afghanistan, Iraq and at secret locations throughout Central Asia and North Africa.

Interrogators can earn up to $120,000 per year plying their trade and most are former military and law enforcement personnel. More ominously, these so-called "private military contractors" are nothing of the sort. They are paramilitary organizations that are funded by the US Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of State, and assorted other agencies through contract vehicles known as Basic Ordering Agreements or "BOAs" hidden throughout the vast US government bureaucracy. It now is well known that CACI got its money through a BOA with the Department of the Interior.

Ollie -- He’s Baaack!

On January 12, 2004, United Placements ran an advertisement for Army Interrogators.

"Job State: IRAQ, Job Number: 8. Interrogators: 30 Positions. Compensation to $120,000. Individuals must be trained Interrogators with at least five years of experience in interrogation. Individuals must be knowledgeable of Army/Joint interrogation procedures, data processing systems such as CHIMs and SIPRNET search engines. Knowledge of the Arabic language and culture a plus…Candidates must have documented in their resumes five years of Humint collection and/or interrogation experience. This is a requirement of the client. Some locations require individuals to work and live in a field environment with minimum medical facilities. Must possess the ability to work extended work hours in difficult surroundings for up to one year."

United Placements’ lists none other than Oliver North--a member of Ronald Reagan’s NSC and focal point of the Iran-Contra scandal in the 1980’s—as one of its two "Industry Associates." North is currently the host of Fox News Channel’s "War Stories." United Placement’s second "Industry Associate" is Intelligencecareers.com run by former intelligence analyst Bill Goldman.

While TortureGate festers, it is noteworthy that as late as May 7, 2004 the same posting for interrogators was listed through Design Staffing LLC. Evidently, a new batch of interrogators is needed to replace those now under criminal investigation.

"Job Nr 85832--Conduct interrogations. Conduct pre-brief and debrief preparation which includes researching, compiling, and preparing supporting material; prepare all-source target overview/summaries to include cultural, religious, and sociological factors; and identify information required for immediate processing and dissemination including support to ongoing and planned operations and force protection. This listing opened 07-May-04 and is valid for 90 days."

The listing goes on to say that the openings will be available "until filled." It was listed under the categories "Analyst (Intelligence) & Knowledge Specialists.

Another company, ZKD, Inc. ran advertisements for interrogators on February 4, 2004. "This listing opened 10-Feb-04 and is valid for 180 days. The company's closing date comments for this listing are: "Open Till Filled. Category: Military Arts, Operations and Science. Send resume to careers@zkdinc.com." It seems interrogators are not only knowledge specialists but artists too.

Who Are Those Guys?

Just who are these people? It shouldn’t be a surprise that Oliver North is back in the war crimes business, but some of the organizations getting into the act seemingly don’t belong in the murky field of recruitment for the US military’s shadow paramilitary force. But, then again, some of these groups have some of the trademarks of CIA or other intelligence agency cut-out operations. Flush with seed money from existing government contracts, small and medium-sized government contractors and recruiting firms were able to launch major drives to draft language-capable interrogators from the ranks of America’s ex-military, law enforcement, and intelligence cadres and the immigrant community.

ZKD, Inc., located in Fairfax, Virginia, bills itself as a veteran-owned, minority owned and women owned firm that provides "Staffing Solutions, Security and Language Services." It’s President and CEO is Zachary K. Duck. The May 2004 issue of Black Enterprise states that ZKD, "as a staffing agency, analyzes current labor market trends and matches qualified applicants with employment opportunities. After 9-11, the company doubled its efforts to provide security services to meet increased demand. ZKD also offers a comprehensive communications service." ZKD has seen a meteoric rise in profits thanks mostly to the Pentagon and Transportation Security Administration. Black Enterprise states that ZKD was founded in 2001 with only two employees but now has more than 250 people with revenues totaling more than $ 10 million in 2003.

ZKD has a growing roster of clients, including the Transportation Security Administration and McNeil Technologies. In January of this year, ZKD was awarded a five-year, $ 53.7 million contract from the Department of Defense. The company now enjoys a solid $34.5 million in contracts for 2004 with another $13 million in the contracting queue.

It is noteworthy that according to The Washington Post, CACI and McNeil Technologies are the recipients of Federal contracts to process Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests for Federal agencies, including the Pentagon and Homeland Security and Justice Departments. In what could be a major conflict of interest, any FOIA request from the public or the media for information on Pentagon or intelligence agency contracts with CACI or ZKD on their interrogation/translation work abroad could be handled by employees of CACI, an interrogation contractor, or McNeil, a client of ZKD, another interrogation contractor.

Design Staffing, LLC is located in Boyds, Maryland has all the trademarks of an operation run by an ex-military or intelligence agency veteran. The language is classic military gangland style "Beyond core categories, we also assist companies with those hard-to-fill positions that do not fit in the traditional molds. Our method, which we call the Design Staffing Approach, DSA, is critical to the success of our business -- and yours. The DSA model is an innovative systematic, seven-tier approach…"

A search of the U.S. Business Directory reveals Design Staffing, LLC is an "employment agency & opportunities firm" and has one employee, an unknown credit status, and a business address at 14024 Clopper Road, Boyds, Maryland. Its principal--listed by email as mpoage@designstaffing.com --is very particular about what he/she is looking for in an interrogator.

"For interrogators I look for experience conducting interrogations, conduct of personnel screenings of local nationals and conduct of tactical debriefings." He/she goes on to imply that embellishment of experience may not be a bad idea to make the resume look stronger to the customer.

If North is There, the Carlyle Group Can’t be Far Behind

Then there’s CalNet, a Vienna, Virginia-based company that says it provides "Agile Solutions for the New Customer Economy." It is run by President and CEO Kaleem Shah. The U.S. Business Directory provides the following sketchy information on CalNet: its description is "Computer-Systems Designers and Consultants," and it has four employees. A CalNet Ltd., also listed as a "computer related" company and located in West Yorkshire, England, was dissolved on March 20, 2001.

According to its website, "Since 1989, CalNet has used its business and technology consultancy to help many of the largest telecom, financial, public sector, high-tech and services organizations remain agile by obtaining explicit business results through the rapid application and delivery of advanced information and telecom solutions." That may be so, but CalNet posted the same interrogators-wanted ad that United Placements ran in January of 2004. Interested parties are encouraged to apply for a position with the Iraq Survey Group. "…please send resume to bcoleman@CALNET.com . Reference job number DISG2."

USIS, or U.S. Investigations Services, bills itself as "one of the largest Intelligence and Security Services companies in North America." Hoover’s Company Capsules has a very unusual descriptive background for the firm. "Formally a US government agency, USIS was spun off as a private company in 1996." A recent job fair it hosted in Falls Church, Virginia, sought "Interrogators, Strategic Debriefers and Protection Specialists for Overseas Assignments."

One of the USIS investors is the omnipresent Carlyle Group, a multibillion-dollar venture capital firm with close ties to George H. W. Bush, former British Prime Minister John Major, and former Secretary of State James Baker, and past ties to the Saudi Bin Laden Companies, which has its tentacles into many of the Bush administration’s major foreign adventures. USIS also owns a subsidiary, Total Information Services, Inc., of Tulsa, Oklahoma, which ironically is similar to the name of the defunct Pentagon program to glean personal information from databases on U.S. and foreign citizens. That program, called the Total Information Awareness (TIA) system was headed by Iran-contra felon retired Admiral John Poindexter before he resigned. TIA, according to media reports, is alive and well in the offices of DARPA in Northern Virginia.

Since the US Congress, the Pentagon, the White House and US Department of Justice seem determined to sweep the entire TortureGate disaster under the rug before the November 2004 elections, the only check on their power appears to be the financial markets. As was recently reported by the Washington Post, directors of one of CACI’s pension funds, the California Public Employees' Retirement System, or Calpers, planned to meet with CACI in early July "…to discuss concerns about management controls, training and legal procedures at the Arlington-based government contractor… What the management of this company owes is a full explanation of exactly what has occurred, exactly who was responsible and a full accounting of what will be done to reform its practices."

Maybe if the money talks, Bush--and the Gordon Gecko’s of the defense contracting world--will walk.



John Stanton is a Virginia-based writer specializing in national security and political matters. He is the author of the forthcoming book, "A Power, But Not Super." Reach John at cioran123@yahoo.com . Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and columnist. His forthcoming book is titled: "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil, Black Ops, and Brass Plates." Reach Wayne at wmadsen777@aol.com . Stanton and Madsen authored America’s Nightmare: The Presidency of George Bush II released in May 2003.
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I don't know how everyone else feels about this, but I sure do know how I feel and this is the ultimate outrage!!!!!!!!!!

Thank god it is only Thursday, who else can and wants to help tomorrow to phone and fax every media and congressperson there is? This is unacceptable~!!! M, F, I am so angry right now, how did this happen?
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:40 PM
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7. But it's OK, torture saves American lives...
Phil Hendrie, Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell, Art Bell and Dennis Miller say so
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:42 PM
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9. god in heaven.........reading that link of yours now
how does one describe the disgust one feels at reading about this creature inflicting himself on the world once again, and making money off it?

The U.S. Army has employed as many as 27 contractors to run its interrogation operations, according to media reports. But while CACI and Titan are getting all the mainstream media play, it appears that far more than 27 contract employees were involved in recruiting and placing interrogators in various locations. Some of the firms involved in the Bush administration’s "TortureGate" include an odd assortment of telecommunications companies and executive placement firms that have jumped into the lucrative torture business in Guantanamo Bay, Afghanistan, Iraq and at secret locations throughout Central Asia and North Africa.

Interrogators can earn up to $120,000 per year plying their trade and most are former military and law enforcement personnel. More ominously, these so-called "private military contractors" are nothing of the sort. They are paramilitary organizations that are funded by the US Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of State, and assorted other agencies through contract vehicles known as Basic Ordering Agreements or "BOAs" hidden throughout the vast US government bureaucracy. It now is well known that CACI got its money through a BOA with the Department of the Interior.

Ollie -- He’s Baaack!

On January 12, 2004, United Placements ran an advertisement for Army Interrogators.

"Job State: IRAQ, Job Number: 8. Interrogators: 30 Positions. Compensation to $120,000. Individuals must be trained Interrogators with at least five years of experience in interrogation. Individuals must be knowledgeable of Army/Joint interrogation procedures, data processing systems such as CHIMs and SIPRNET search engines. Knowledge of the Arabic language and culture a plus…Candidates must have documented in their resumes five years of Humint collection and/or interrogation experience. This is a requirement of the client. Some locations require individuals to work and live in a field environment with minimum medical facilities. Must possess the ability to work extended work hours in difficult surroundings for up to one year."

United Placements’ lists none other than Oliver North--a member of Ronald Reagan’s NSC and focal point of the Iran-Contra scandal in the 1980’s—as one of its two "Industry Associates." North is currently the host of Fox News Channel’s "War Stories." United Placement’s second "Industry Associate" is Intelligencecareers.com run by former intelligence analyst Bill Goldman.


tell me we haven't turned into a police state on the order of Nazi Germany
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:49 PM
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12. Okay, we haven't, feel better yet?
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 04:51 PM by anarchy1999
me either.......... How did we let this happen??? It is us, we the people, we let it and Will says it best and Moyers says it best we are responsible, even Nader says it and Granny D and Molly I and Greg Palast and, and , and ,,,,,,,,,, It's up to us everyone and I personally, IMHO, I don't think the world or us, we the people of the US can afford to wait till November! If we do, we are through.

DEMOCRACY IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT!!!!!!!!!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:42 PM
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10. here's a link...sorry if it's a dupe
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:44 PM
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11. I don't know why...
but this sickens me more than anything I've heard to this point. It's the friccken straw that broke this camels back.

I want to puke and punch something right about now.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:04 PM
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13. What is an "Industry Associate"?
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 05:04 PM by anarchy1999
n/t
What does that mean? Something like Poppy being a "consultant" for Carlyle?

Just tell me really, what is the use in protesting this bunch of criminal, corrupt, evil bunch of evil doer's?

Just for the fact that they are back, how can we ever really be rid of them? We obviously never got rid of the criminals in the first place. Just think about it, laugh yourself all the way into their minds. Crimes against the nation, lying to Congress and all ways for democracy and freedom. Do we stand a chance in hell? I don't think so, much as I wish not to believe this way.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:10 PM
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15. What I want to know, is WILL KERRY DO ANYTHING about
these spawn of SChool of America mindset if he gets in office?

think it's going to change?

unfortunately, this is the war on terra, and they're going to try to convince the people that companies like this are necessary to fight it.

Gore Vidal's been calling it the National Security State for a long time, and, with each revelation like this (which is no revelation at all, given that all this crap is ADVERTISED), it becomes more obvious how low we've sunk, and how much like those who we've supposedly fought against we've become.

where's my barf bag?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:07 PM
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14. Well, now we know what the sumbeach was doin' in Iraq earlier.
Makes me want to hurl. How I'd love to get a hold of the fundy-ass preacher that was extolling the virtues of good ol' Ollie. :grr:
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:12 PM
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16. Gee...I Though Ollie Was There Reporting for Faux News
Guess he was moonlighting....
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:14 PM
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17. Is there anyone we can call and complain to? Kentuck there has to
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 05:14 PM by anarchy1999
be something we can do, isn't there? I'm starting to feel pretty hopeless right about now...... any encouraging words? Thanks for starting the thread though, I needed this kick.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 07:44 PM
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18. Fucking A!
:grr::puke::argh:
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