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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:03 PM
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Jones (from MONTY PYTHON) on Rumsfeld approving torture. FUNNY.
This won't hurt much

Terry Jones
Wednesday June 16, 2004
The Guardian

For some time now, I've been trying to find out where my son goes after choir practice. He simply refuses to tell me. He says it's no business of mine where he goes after choir practice and it's a free country.
Now it may be a free country, but if people start going just anywhere they like after choir practice, goodness knows whether we'll have a country left to be free. I mean, he might be going to anarchist meetings or Islamic study groups. How do I know?

The thing is, if people don't say where they're going after choir practice, this country is at risk. So I have been applying a certain amount of pressure on my son to tell me where he's going. To begin with I simply put a bag over his head and chained him to a radiator. But did that persuade him? Does the Pope eat kosher?

snip.... (funny)

I hesitated to gravitate to harsher interrogation methods because, after all, he is my son. Then Donald Rumsfeld came to my rescue.

snip...

What this means in understandable English is that if a parent, in his anxiety to know where his son goes after choir practice, does something that will cause severe pain to his son, it is only "torture" if the causing of that severe pain is his objective. If his objective is something else - such as finding out where his son goes after choir practice - then it is not torture.

Mr Rumsfeld's memo goes on: "a defendant" (by which he means a concerned parent) "is guilty of torture only if he acts with the express purpose of inflicting severe pain or suffering on a person within his control". Couldn't be clearer. If your intention is to extract information, you cannot be accused of torture.

· Terry Jones is a writer, film director, actor and Python

More at link... worth reading, seriously.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1239688,00.html
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VideoBrit Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:08 PM
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1. Oh yeah
Yup, I've read that. Terry Jones is one funny mofo. It seems like all of the cool British people are writing intelligent articles against the war - Terry Jones, Brian Eno... hell, even Eric Idle wrote a song against Bush (i.e. "Fuck you very much, the FCC").
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:27 PM
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4. Welcome to DU. :^) Terry Jones is my very fave Welshman.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:23 PM
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2. Absolutely
Brilliant.

Im off to "get some info" from the kids..................
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:26 PM
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3. Okay...now I need a radiator to chain someone too!
what a great article...
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:28 PM
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5. heh, you can almost hear the excited Welsh voice...
So glad Terry Jones has been churning out a barrage of great columns on the current Bad Times... he should get a book out this year!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:44 PM
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6. By the way, anybody has seen "Life of Brian" again? I did. It is so
wonderful... Monty Python's legacy is a treasure.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:47 PM
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7. Terry Jones is my (secret) favorite Python member.
Always played the most whacked-out characters with the strangest voices.
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