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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:32 PM
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Beheading a big boost for Bush
It show that all muslims are evil (no I don't believe that! I am just demontstrating what our beloved cro-magnons friends will think.)

Whenever an American is brutally savaged, it makes Bush stronger.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:33 PM
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1. The gods demand more heads!
:evilfrown:
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:33 PM
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2. Cui bono?
So who are the beheaders, really? Same guys that did Berg, perhaps?
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:33 PM
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Not in the case of Berg. Maybe not now either.
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vivalarev Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:33 PM
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3. nahhh...
it makes him look like more of an asshole!
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:34 PM
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4. It does? I was thinking * would be blamed.
I blame him, at least in part.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:34 PM
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5. I Disagree

Beheadings are shocking to most Americans. It is barbaric.

Also, this man lived in SA for 10 years - without incident. He was in danger because of Bush's war in Iraq, and I believe specifically because of the torture that happened with the prisoners.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:36 PM
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7. I agree with you
House of Bush - House of Saud
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:36 PM
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9. Well you see it that way, I see it that way,
most of the people on this board see it that way...

At large, out there in the Fox News-fed hinterlands, do they see it that way?

I have my doubts. This story is inflamatory and will only spur Bush & Co on to pursue their policies of idiocy in the Mid-East.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:39 PM
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13. don't look for corporate media
to make that point. they won't.

it will be played as: brown|people|bad

the linkage to American war crimes will NOT be made and more than the linkage to American war criminals bush|cheney|rumsfeld|rice|ashcroft|wolfowitz who encouraged those crimes will be made.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:52 PM
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25. I'm missing something here...
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 02:15 PM by hughee99
Didn't the people who did it say that it was because the Saudi's wouldn't release the Al-Queda prisioners? And aren't the Al-Queda prisoners in jail for terrorism? How would this be different from, for example, the Mafia taking a hostage and executing him for refusal to release their hitmen? I don't really see how this relates to the prison abuse or Iraq directly.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:35 PM
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6. I just wish people would realize
That is isn't the Iraqis who are doing this. If we weren't in Iraq, we could have 130,000 US troops (plus probably a REAL coalition of the willing) hunting these montsters.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:37 PM
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10. Lots of people do realize it
former diplomats, generals, intelligence experts.

Nothing seems to matter to the media... they just keep trying to sell more clips of Cheney pimping that 'connection'.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:36 PM
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8. not this time
the torture scandal has been mentioned as one of the reasons
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:37 PM
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11. Nope. This shows how ineffective his *war on terror* actually is.
You feeling safer???
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:37 PM
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12. Anything that the RW can blame, even remotely, on somebody else helps
Bush in their eyes. But it is a Friday, so I guess this time it is like the media dump.
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:40 PM
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14. Nonsense.
It's because of Bush that these profiteers are in Iraq in the first place.


The Berg video didn't give him a boost.

I think it's sad to speculate on the impact that these things will have on the polls anyway.

It's sad that nice people are forced by economic circumstances to go and be profiteers in Iraq.

Too bad for his family.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:45 PM
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17. uh.... not IRAQ
Johnson was in Saudi Arabia

was there LONG before * was in office. 10+ years.

however, it is because * went to Iraq that Johnson was put in danger.
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:48 PM
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20. Oh.
Didn't have time to read in depth, just assumed...

Then it points up another Bush weakness - his coddling of the pro-terrorist Saudi regime...
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:54 PM
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28. I think you are wrong to assume he was forced. It sounds to me
he and what appears to be his mail order bride liked the country and its values.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:42 PM
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15. So what's with the orange jump suits, anyway?
Are we selling the terrorists orange jump suits as well as arms and training them to boot?
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:55 PM
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30. LOL HI nv whino
Welcome to DU. Glad you're here. :bounce:
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Newkophile Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:42 PM
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16. Not at all - Bush's actions exposed as poorly thought out
What's Bush going to do now? Invade Saudi Arabia because it is harboring al Qaida terrorists? Don't bet on it. The incompetent in chief's actions, poorly thought out, has unleashed an even more tremendous force of hatred and perceived revenge in that part of the world. Who would deny that there are now probably more al Qaida members than before the exposed torture (and that's what it is, Mr. Ashcroft, your "tortured" definition of what constitutes torture notwithstanding) at abu Ghraib?

I feel very sad for Mr. Johnson's family. I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:46 PM
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19. Good Post Welcome

Someone Else made a similiar post on another thread - and I came over here to mention it.

There will be people who will say - invade SA. What is Bush going to do?
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 02:00 PM
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32. It's getting dark all over.
Howdy-doo MSM. Wecome to D Underground. :hi:
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:45 PM
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18. You don't think it might get people thinking about how Iraq
has caused us to take the focus off Al Qaeda? Maybe people should question US/Saudi relations? That's what people need to be asking about. 9/11 terrorists were mostly Saudi's. Now here's a Al Qaeda cell in Saudi that has beheaded an American. You think we will attack Saudi? Hell no. Never. Bush and the House of Saud are too chummy chummy. God, look at the Saudi 9/11 connections! Bush ignored them instead created a red herring connection between AlQaeda and Iraq! Makes me want to scream my head off!!!
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:50 PM
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23. abetting a terrorist group
hes said any country.......hiding terrorist will be treated as a terrorist country.so bomb Saudi......
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:48 PM
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21. Interesting how the FOCUS now seemes to be Saudi Arabia
The House of Saud HELPING the House of Bush!!! :grr:
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:49 PM
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22. Here we go again, timing beyond suspect.
Ba-dum! House of Saud to the rescue. If "Al Queda" really wanted to hurt Bush they wouldn't work so hard for his reelection.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:51 PM
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24. Do you mean that if Bu$h was beheaded, he'd jump in the polls?
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:53 PM
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26. Johnsons familt
My heart goes out to them .I hope bush doesn't try to use this....for the family just might cream is ass in world wide TV........
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:53 PM
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27. Well if it wasn't for bush
Johnson would still be alive . . .

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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:54 PM
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29. Somebody better take that sword away from
the Clenis.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:57 PM
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31. There's a subject heading I'd like to rearrange!
But, on the other hand, do I really need a visit from the FBI?

Must...resist...temptation....
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