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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:29 PM
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Ashcroft's bloodlust spitting on the law again...
In a nutshell-- Alejandro Sanchez has been extradited from the Dominican Republic to be tried here on drug and murder charges. The Dominican judge who signed the extradition order signed it with the restriction that prosecutors would not seek the death penalty.

This is a common provision in extradition, since most countries don't have capital punishement, and generally refuse to extradite if the penalties are significantly harsher than they have, like execution. This concept is pretty well carved in stone in international law.

Well, although the Justice Department eventually agreed to not seek the death penalty, it did say that the Dominican judge's restriction was "non-binding."

WHAT????!!!!

So, we can now extradite and agree to conditions, but then simply say "fuck you" when we have the suspect on ice?

Lawyers quoted in the article say, essentially, that fat chance we can get future extraditions from or cooperation with other countries when they can't take our word that a deal is a deal.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/19/nyregion/19death.html?ex=1088615373&ei=1&en=90a92661c38a9344
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:33 PM
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1. Stop acting shocked. Just stop.
I just can't register shock anymore. This is the logical, unspectacular next step in their very public, very known reasoning.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:39 PM
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2. Ashcroft lacks a sense of decency.
Ashcroft lacks a sense of decency.

It's all a might-makes-right, I'll do whatever I want unless someone can stop me.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:42 PM
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3. Yep, extradition will never occur again
Pissing on the world will only get us killed.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:47 PM
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4. No more extraditions to the U.S. that's for sure.
Ashwipe is unbelievable. Wouldn't you hate to be in business with this guy. We had a contract! Well, just because I signed it doesn't mean I agreed to it!

Geeeezzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeee. The laws of our land don't mean sh** and our word is as good as sh**! Ain't that great.

That scum and his boss are going to get us all killed.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:58 PM
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5. No, he's saying the law of the land is what the executive says,
at least as far as anything outside the country is concerned. Therefore there can be no binding deal; because the non-bindingness of international law is inherent in the executive's power.

Read your Federalist Society law theory and you'll find this is not a surprise. Evil, perhaps, but not a surprise.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:58 AM
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6. Have you ever seen an extradition agreement????
It is a contract between the U.S. and another nation signed by the Attorney General, legal counsel for the United States.
It's kinda that easy, why you guys have to through out the Federal Society garbage is beyond me. Worse than any theory of government that these madmen may be pursuing is the fact that the U.S. does not honor its agreements, our word means nothing, WE CANNOT BE TRUSTED.

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