Johnsons body

[bluedog]

this news conference going on now says that the Saudis are looking for his body..My paper this morning says that found the body 20 miles from the capitol city and thats where the suspects were dumping tham and they got caught............Whats up with this .......

[Lestat]

1. Yeah...I read on CNN.com that they found his body.

I don't know what's going on...:shrug:

[shraby]

2. link?

[Must_B_Free]

3. That contradicts the official story

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040619/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_kidnapped_american_64

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Saudi TV broadcast pictures Saturday of four bloodied bodies that authorities identified as the reputed leader of al-Qaida in the kingdom and three other militants killed in a gunbattle after dumping the mutilated body of an American hostage.
...
After news of Johnson's death was released Friday, a witness reportedly saw his body dumped from a car just outside Riyadh and informed police of the car's license number.
...
I guess they just never recovered the body, they just killed the suspects based on the lady's statement and never actually took posession of the body?

[Tinoire]

4. So many liars involved in this story- they can't keep the lies straight

They found the body, they didn't find the body.
Berg was in US custody, was not in US custody.
WMDs in Iraq, no WMDs in Iraq.

Anyway... what's a few little lies when you've sold the biggest one of them all and you're still left standing?

[Must_B_Free]

7. If you look at the details

- he looked like a typical war supporter. To say "He's one of you".
- Drudge is the one selling the Photos - the hand servant of the right.
- Drudge is telling us the intended interpretation - "SAVAGES!"

Clearly this is a calculated act of psychological warfare.

We know who the target of this warfare is - people who look like Paul Johnson; people who would identify with his character at a glance.

What is it trying to tell them?

Do the architects of this message want to say "Hey - do you understand to do what we say?" Because if it is they have miscalculated their target audience horribly.

Rather, it seems to "Hey - don't give up support for the war and your president, because we are evil savages who still need to be destroyed."

Anyone care to defeat this reasoning?

[Tinoire]

10. Can't... I'm with you 100%

:)

[KharmaTrain]

11. Defeat It? I'd Amplify It...

Notice how these "beheadings" are taking place...generally when there's another big news story happening that needs to be diverted...such as Abu Gabril and now the 9/11 findings. A lot of pieces fit, some don't...I'll try to sort a couple...

That fit:

- "Guy Next Door" look...could have been any Freeper's uncle or boyfriend or both.
- Plain "American Name"...not like that Jewish Berg guy...he was good for shock value, like Pearl, for getting the media to go in a frenzy...and yes, it was SAVAGES...now the "real" reason we invaded...somehow we know more about how these people should live and co-exist than they do.
- Saudi Arabia/Iraq....doesn't matter if there's no tangible connection between any "Al Queda" cell except these guys speak Arabic, walk around with draperies on their heads and have mustaches. It's as if we're attacked in Australia, that means the bad guys in Canada are to blame since they all speak English.

That don't:

- Weasel Prince Bandar claims that the body wasn't found or identified...but somehow the killers were still caught within minutes of the release of the video, I predicted this was going to happen. I wonder why?
- None of the killers were captured, they were all "killed", thus preventing them from either being interogated by Americans (and I've heard reports the Saudis still refuse to allow FBI agents to hold any real active investigation inside Saudi Arabia despite Bandars lies) or to be deported or even proven they were who they were. Everything went "according to plan"
- Financial and bank records involving Saudis remain "unavailable", thus no way to prove or dis-prove connections and making money laudering, that is a perfected art in that world, to world class status.

I could go on...and I'm sure you could, as well. This is another playing of the "Fear Card"...what's quickly becoming the only real "platform" this regime is running on. Scare the sheeple! Pity us if that turns into more than 45% in the popular vote. If it is, we're screwed!

[bluedog]

5. check this out

Witness saw U.S. hostage’s body dumped from car, alerted police

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5196406/


The men were killed in a shootout on Friday night as they tried to dispose of the body of Johnson, who was beheaded after the Saudi government refused to free Islamist prisoners by a Friday deadline set by Muqrin's cell.

Muqrin's group had posted photographs of Johnson's severed head on a Web site, six days after the 49-year-old aviation engineer was kidnapped in Riyadh.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5462482

[bluedog]

6. Now they THINK they know where it is..........lying....big time!!

crime."


Hours after Johnson's slaying, security forces at a roadblock intercepted al-Moqrin and the other militants in their car, sparking a gunbattle that ended with the four being killed, Adel al-Jubeir, foreign affairs adviser to Crown Prince Abdullah, told reporters at the Saudi Embassy in Washington.


He said initial reports from Saudi officials that the militants were traced after a witness saw them dumping Johnson's body were incorrect.


Johnson's body has not been found, he said. "We think we know the area where it is," and security forces are searching in an area north of the capital, al-Jubeir said.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=716&e=2&u=/ap/20040619/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_kidnapped_american

[Spazito]

8. Hmmm, the fact that the conflicting facts are being made public...

causes me to think that there is some evidence that the Saudis and others are lying through their teeth and that evidence will be coming out.

[bluedog]

9. sounds to me like

they just killed a few people on the streets and called them the terrorists............this stinks to high heaven......

[TrustingDog]

12. reminds me of the Berg timing....

wasn't he found dead on a certain date but the vid had a date stamp after?

oiy veh. can't keep up with the Office of Strategic Influence ....

http://foi.missouri.edu/osi/pentagondisinfo.html