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chrisdfer Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 02:10 PM
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Disgusting game that need attention.
Apparently there is a new game being made that "honors" the IDF and its murder of young children and women. The goal of the game is to kill as many Palestinians as possible. I suggest everyone does whatever it takes to get this game stopped and off the internet. http://members.lycos.co.uk/idfffi/index.php? is a link to the website.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 02:11 PM
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1. Welcome to DU and thank for the heads up.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 02:15 PM
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2. Sorry,the game may be disgusting
but I'm not going to try to ban it.As a gamer I know I wouldn't want a game I liked banned because people didn't like the content.

I will say this though;it'll be interesting to see what Joe Lieberman thinks about this game.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 04:26 PM
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17. You said it. I'll bet Joe won't have anything to say about
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 04:27 PM by Cat Atomic
this particular brand of violence. Just like he didn't seem to mind America's Army, the violent video game produced in cooperation with the government as a recruitment tool.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 04:43 PM
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19. What if the point of the game was to act as
a concentration camp guard and see how many Jews you could pick off?

There is just some content that goes beyond the pale. Just because the game glorifies the Israeli Defense Forces does not mean it can't be odious. It is but another way to further dehumanize the Palestinians.

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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 02:37 PM
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3. I'm not in favor of banning this
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 02:39 PM by RatTerrier
I don't care if it may offend, but the practice of censorship is simply falling into the trap of the right wing. This is the way they want to play. I for one believe in a limited government that allows me the freedom to play, read, listen to or watch whatever I want. There's some things out there that offend me, but with freedom comes things we may not necessarily like. I can live with that.

This is the same line of thought as RWers wanting to ban F-9/11, or violent movies and other video games, or musical artists like Marilyn Manson. I believe in the First Amendment, and also believe that the more attention brought to it, the more people will want to check it out.

Fortunately, for our side, RWers wanting to ban F-9/11 are just giving the movie more publicity, and making people want to see exactly what it is they want to hide from us.

Never underestimate human curiosity.
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chrisdfer Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:07 PM
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4. I don't agree.
Well I think the game needs to be stopped. Any game that shows the Jews as being "goog guys" shouldn't be allowed. We should at least do something to keep this game from being supported. They host files on a website called file planet, perhaps if enough people contact that website then they will take it off.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:11 PM
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5. Why can't the Jews be good guys?
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 03:12 PM by Forkboy
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JHBowden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:13 PM
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6. I'm not Lieberman-style.
If someone wants to play a game others find offensive, that is their right. You won't see me freeping others.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:22 PM
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7. Zionists are getting desperate. I hate fanatics of all stripes.
If I had my druthers I would have not only that site removed but also AQ sites praising maryts and enlisting supporters removed, White Supremacy sites removed, Neo Nazi sites removed.

Sadly it ain't gonna happen. If people's sole source of informtion is a game than there is no hope for them so why worry.

If its of any consolation Zionists are losing the war of public opinion. They are going to need a lot more than a game to change opinion.

BTW Welcome to DU :hi:
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mellowinman Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:30 PM
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9. WTF?
Is this tongue in cheek?

{Any game that shows the Jews as being "goog guys" shouldn't be allowed.}

I find this comment beyond disturbing.

What do you have against Jews?

You got a problem with Jews?

Spell it out, if you have the balls.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:38 PM
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10. I've been waiting for an answer myself
Hope to see one.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 04:16 PM
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15. kick
:kick:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:36 PM
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21. Think I'll kick this again
to see if this poster has any courage to explain himself or not.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:55 PM
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14. Well, I don't want the Jews to be "goog guys" either. . .
at least, not until I know what that means. :)
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:38 PM
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11. Free speech ain't about popular speech....
it's about UNPOPULAR speech.

They've got a right to put out the game, and your indication that they need "to be stopped" puts you SQUARELY on the Fascist side of the equation.

Who the F*$& do you think you are to say that people should stop political speech? Who gave you the power to decide what should be "allowed" and what "shouldn't be allowed"?

FOAD....
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 04:46 PM
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20. chrisdfer, first of all welcome to DU....and now to the point
of my post. Israeli Defense Forces does not equal Jews. While Israel is a majority Jewish state (as the US is a majority Christian country) it does not mean all Jews support what is done by the Israeli government.

This game is not presenting JEWS as the good guys but is presenting the MILITARY of a sovereign nation as the good guys.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:26 PM
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8. There is a lot of sick stuff on the internet
I wish you luck on shutting the site down, but there are tons of trash on the internet that really shouldn't be there. The only real option is to not go to those kind of sites.
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:40 PM
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12. I find nothing wrong with it.
It looks like a mod of Battlefield 1942, of course a WW2 video game. Nothing I saw on the website was hateful. In any first person shooter there are "good guys" and "bad guys" and while I may not see eye to eye with the person who makes this mod, I don't see where I could rightfully want to get the game banned when there are games of all kinds that are similar.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:55 PM
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13. yes, i don't like it, but i don't believe you should try stop it.
these guys probably knew teh debate this mod would spring up, that is probably why they went ahead with it. any publicity is good publicity.
i wouldn't worry about it the game will probably suck and no one will play it anyway.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 04:18 PM
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16. Apparently disgusting game that needs attention, yes..
shut down, no. I find the 'IDF' to be a disgusting entity and anything that glorifies it repulses me.. but, I wouldn't want it shut down.

For some balance,
http://www.specialforce.net/english/indexeng.htm

:shrug:
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 04:40 PM
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18. It's a mod of an existing game, not an original game.
Anyone can mod a game. A few amateurs can do it in their free time, and the huge majority never make any money off of them. It's not being produced by some game studio.

Also, it doesn't appear to me that this mod is about killing Palestinian civilians. They say on their main page that they've nearly finished building the 3-D elements for the Israeli army, and now they're focussing on the Arab countries.

It looks like they're focussing on the 6-Day War, the conflicts around Israel's founding, etc.

I'm not a supporter of Israel's policies, but I'm not going to attack the creators of this mod just because their politics differ from my own.
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