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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:10 PM
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Al Qaeda-tied terrorist nabbed in Iraq
From David Ensor
CNN Washington Bureau
Wednesday, April 30, 2003 Posted: 2:13 AM EDT (0613 GMT)
( back on APRIL 30 !! 2003 !! , who thinks thinks this whole deal is
is a scam ??) // wag the f*cking terroist //

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/29/sprj.irq.terrorist.capture


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Senior Bush administration officials Tuesday said a member of an al Qaeda-affiliated terror group operating in Iraq has been captured by U.S. forces.

Sources said the individual is a member of a group operating in western Baghdad under the leadership of Abu Musab al Zarqawi, a Jordanian believed by the United States to have been the mastermind behind the assassination of American diplomat Lawrence Foley in Amman last October.

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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:14 PM
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1. Let's face it. I bet no one on this board can name more that 2
real al Qaeda members. The government keeps nabbing these people - supposidly. There are no trails, no lawyers. They are wisked away into secret jails to be tortured and come up with interesting information. The government hasn't told the truth about anything in 3 years. I find it hard to believe there are that many top al Qaeda folks out there getting caught.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:18 PM
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2. and the bush admin for that matter
Let's face it. I bet no one on this board can name more that 2
real al Qaeda members

is Zarqawi even alive

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084

Iraq militants claim al-Zarqawi is dead

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A Jordanian extremist suspected of bloody suicide attacks in Iraq was killed some time ago in U.S. bombing and a letter outlining plans for fomenting sectarian war is a forgery, a statement allegedly from an insurgent group west of the capital said.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:23 PM
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3. Lot's of questions for me regarding al-Qaeda...
-snip

Dolnik and McCloud - who first started studying terrorism at the prestigious Monterey Institute of International Studies in California - claim it was Western officials who imposed the name 'al-Qaeda' on to disparate radical Islamic groups and who blew Osama bin Laden's power and reach 'out of proportion'. Both are concerned about the threat of terror, but argue that we should 'debunk the myth of al-Qaeda'

-snip

So where did 'al-Qaeda' come from? Dolink says there are a number of theories - that the term was first used by bin Laden's spiritual mentor Abdullah Azzam, who wrote of al Qaeda al Sulbah, meaning the 'solid base', in 1988; or that it derives from a bin Laden-sponsored safehouse in Afghanistan in the 1980s, when he was part of the mujahideen fighting against the Soviet invasion, again referring to a physical 'base' rather than to a distinct organisation. But in terms of 'al-Qaeda' then being used to define a group of operatives around bin Laden - that, says Dolnik, originated in the West.

-snip

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1422


on edit:

disclaimer, i have no idea what that site that i linked is all about, and I've posted it before, i just know that it came when i was googling around trying find out more about al-qaeda. it's for discussion purposes only. (i don't normally link to sites that claim to be "the voice of the right"). :)
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:31 PM
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4. yes what exactly is 'al-Qaeda' ? good question
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 09:34 PM by number6
"But in terms of 'al-Qaeda' then being used to define a group of operatives around bin Laden - that, says Dolnik, originated in the West."

"it's time we 'defused the widespread image
of al-Qaeda as a ubiquitous, super-organised terror network and call it as it is: a loose collection of groups and individuals that doesn't even refer to itself as al-Qaeda'"
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:35 PM
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5. We need another deck of playing cards dammit!
NumbsNuts has always trumpeted the fact that 2/3 of AQ's members have been captured or killed yet it's that pesky remaining 1/3 doing all this "evility".
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:35 PM
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6. Why is Musab al Zarqawi still not on
the fbi's most wanted list? That other guy that beheaded Mr. Johnson, he's not on the list either.
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