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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 07:55 AM
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Do you think maybe bush ENJOYS killing women & children?
i've never heard him apologize for the 'collateral damage' that we've caused in iraq. that's military spin/talk for innocent people who were unfortunate enough to be near where bombs might fall.

surely he knows that over 30,000 INNOCENT people have died since he began his death march cult. yet we barely ever hear them mentioned.
instead we get constant bloviating about the awful beheadings, to remind us bluntly that all those damn muslims are killers who hate us for no apparent reason.

do you think bush loses any sleep thinking about the conflict of claiming to love christ yet SLAUGHTERING MOTHERS AND CHILDREN?

or do you imagine he sleeps as well an any vampire or ghoul? we all know how he mocked karla faye tucker's impending execution. he got a big grinch grin and leaned into the camera a smirked eerily when he mocked her doom, knowing that he ordered it.

mr. bush seemingly enjoys torture too, because he officially sanctioned soldiers to revert to beasts and nazis in his name and in america's name. i'm beginning to think that he may not actually have ever gotten christ's message at all. how could he have forgotten those words from jesus?

when i see him speak here lately, when he's not reading the words written for him, you can see the ever growing madness in his eyes and demeanor. he is truly as equally insane as hitler before him.
he is truly a psychopath, and a sociopath. and he has the football.
the briefcase, always close, with the very means to destroy the world and hasten armageddon.

i want a president who backs up his claim of religious faith with action. compassion, love, forgiveness, tolerance, benevolence.
not a man who enjoys torturing, raping, and slaughtering thousands of innocent people in a land far, far away.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:07 AM
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1. Damn right he does!
You spend your childhood blowing up frogs with firecracker enemas and then you move on to bigger game.

I suspect Little George is trying to show Poppy what a badass he is.

DISCLAIMER: mopaul is making us look baa-aad to the Freeps! They'll think he speaks for ALL OF DU! Waaaaaaaah! Mommy, make him stop! He's SCARING me again!

:evilgrin:
dbt
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:11 AM
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3. now stop that
he does seem like a classic sadist without normal human remorse or compassion. he seems removed from his actions on the surface, but i'll bet he enjoys the mass slaughter, and it's an emotional release for him, like all sadistic killers.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:27 AM
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7. He is like someone from the middle ages. All for our good.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:20 PM
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defoliate_bush Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:08 PM
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33. Yes, it's horrible
It's okay that people are dying by the thousands as long as it's not Americans. Disgusting. Conservatives never cease to amaze me.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 11:11 PM
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36. "George" isn't trying to save anyone from anything
Your link to Michael Wiener's website and reporting on the beheading of Paul Johnson should have a warning if there are graphic pictures.

And it's far more likely that "George" is ultimately responsible for Mr. Johnson's death than that he was trying to protect anyone other than his own sorry ass.

Tansy Gold, not making accusations but thinking them
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:09 AM
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2. I think he enjoys the sense of power he has

and is basically somewhat sociopathic in that the consequences of his choices dont really reach him and he doesnt concern himself unduly with them.

It's why, for one, he was never concerned about actually reviewing the pending death penalty cases when he was Governor of Texas and just approved them with little or no attention paid.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:14 AM
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4. imagine how you or i would feel even if we accidently killed someone
we'd be eaten up with grief and remorse. or if we had to kill in self defense even. but there are some who are beyond 'sentimentality' altogether. they have to remove themselves from the actual carnage, and remove their natural sympathy for human suffering. no empathy, much like a serial killer objectifies his victim. not a real person actually, more of a toy.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:19 AM
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5. As a devotee of Oswald Chambers, Bush believes that killing people
is his Christian duty. It's not his place to be merciful or sympathetic or the weeest bit concerned with the souls of other people. It's up to God to judge souls, and his judgement is absolute.

http://www.myutmost.org/05/0503.html

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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:34 AM
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10. You are confusing Christian duty with satanic devotion
in this case. I do not think Bush is confusded, though. I think he is dedicated to his mentor and "saviour" the King of Hell
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:26 AM
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6. He compartmentalizes everything
It's us v. them. In his dichotomous mind, he doesn't even connect the fact that "them" are humans. Either you are with us or you are an evil doer. Dehumanizing the enemy is nothing new. Bush is just a master of this tactic. I honestly think that he doesn't even think about the fact that these are people with families. To him they are simply evil doers - subhuman nothings. Look back in history and you'll see many precedents. Slaves were only 3/5ths of a human being, Native Americans were savages. It's a mark of imperialism to believe that the occupying force is somehow coming in to subdue the barbarian savages. Also, you cannot dismiss the religious mindset, that these are not only barbarians, but they are infidels as well. It's the crusades all over again (no coincidence that Bush declared this a crusade). The most ironic thing is, the terrorists think of Americans the same way Bush thinks of them. In their view, we are the barbarians, we are the infidels, we are the ones who are subhuman. Bush has far more in common with Islamic extremists (his mindset) than he does the rest of the modern thinking world.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:40 AM
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12. I agree with your analysis
and the saddest part is with Bush and the terrorists in charge, there will likely be more and more innocents killed-and not just in Iraq. We're already seeing it starting to happen in Saudi Arabia. Who knows what country is next.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:46 AM
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15. It's a hallmark of a sociopath to view human beings as a means ...
... rather than an end in themselves. Smirky Sockpuppet McFascist is a manipulated sociopath ... and Puppeteer Cheney is a megalomaniacal sadist.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:30 AM
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8. of course he enjoys it....
as any sadistic psychopath would.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:32 AM
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9. Bush, Rummy, Cheney Sharon et al are NECROPHILIACS!!!
They love the bloodlusting orgy of death they control

It is a mental disease and the sure result of "eugenic" thinking and of eugenecists like these men.

Tim Robbins touches on this in his play EMBEDDED where Cheney, Condo et all (in hideous masks) have a simultaneous orgasm at the deaths and bloodshed they have caused in Iraq and Adghanistan under the tutelage of the dead fascist Leo Straus

chillingly like the vomitoriums and bloodsports and orgy rooms of the Roman imperial era (like Abu Ghraib)

NECROPHILIC

they LOVE blood, spilled entrails, and death

it gives them pleasure
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:36 AM
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11. some fundies I know
are saying that Bush is the anti-Christ.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:47 PM
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32. That's good news...
If his base starts turning on him, he's done.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:40 AM
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13. He could never be the baby killer he is
without the support of 1/2 of Amerika.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:42 AM
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14. No. They just aren't a factor in his thinking.
I have yet to hear him speak of any regret about the many non-combatants. That's a big mistake on his part. It is unpresidential.

Bush is intoxicated with power. He believes he has a calling. His ego won't let him see the truth, that he is just the kid of a former president who would be nothing but for his father's achievements.

Bush wasn't raised right. He sees himself as the center of everything. He considers the deaths of women and children side issues to the historic, consequential fate he believes himself worthy of. Deaths (and worse) of the innocent are just nuances in his Bush-centric big picture. And we know how he deals with nuance.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:08 AM
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18. he doesn't even speak with regret of the deaths of the soldiers
he sends to their deaths, soldiers who are dying FOR HIM and HIS WAR.

In my unprofessional opinion, he's a sociopath and maybe even a psychopath.

But look, his parents were so unmoved by their daughter's death that they went out and played golf the next day, adn while I agree that many people have different ways of coping with loss, that has to be just a little callous.

His mother felt no shame at going on tv and admitting that her mind is too beautiful to be bothered with thoughts and pictures of body bags and death in any form.

There is evidence to support the notion that he used his wife's teen-age auto accident in which a friend was killed as a get-even tool in the 2000 campaign. Didn't he have any feelings for how Laura might react? I don't think so.

I think one of the reasons boosh went after Iraq was that he had to "test" himself against Saddam. Saddam had seized and enjoyed virtually absolute power. He wasn't just a billionaire terrorist hiding in a cave; Saddam was a real bad-ass, and boosh ahd to prove himself against "the best." Or at least start moving his way up. More than likely, Saudi Arabia, where they still have "real" kings, is next.

Boosh is one sick puppy, and I think there will be a great deal of dancing in the streets if and when he is removed. I wish I could be more confident and not put the "if" in there, but . . ..
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Fear Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:48 AM
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16. George W. Bush is a great fan of executions.
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 08:50 AM by Fear
George W. Bush is a great fan of executions. He presided over 152 of them during his six years as Governor of Texas.


"George W. Bush knew that he was not going to reprieve Karla Faye Tucker. He could have told her that the day before," Mauro explained. "He could have told her a week before. But he waited until the six o'clock prime time news, knowing she was strapped to a gurney still having hope about her life, and he grandstanded on her." Bush went further when he joked about Karla Faye Tucker's desperate plea for life, which had been aired on Larry King Live. During an interview with Talk Magazine, Bush mocked Karla Faye, whimpering "Please, don't kill me" in an imitation of her voice . — Who Is George W. Bush?
http://www.monitor.net/monitor/0001a/fortunateson.html

GOP presidential candidate Gary Bauer, himself an evangelical Christian: "I think it is nothing short of unbelievable that the governor of a major state running for president thought it was acceptable to mock a woman he decided to put to death." — Wayne Madsen, Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult: Concerns Raised by the Vatican


From:
http://www.billstclair.com/Serendipity/wtcm040419/wot/bushflub.htm



Transcript of Larry King show
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1998/tucker.execution/transcripts/trans.1.14.html
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:47 AM
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17. kick
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disinfo_guy Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:19 AM
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22. hey mopaul, great picture!
I saved that one, hope you don't mind if I use it later?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:21 AM
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23. feel free....while you can
go ahead disinfo, it's the people's propmoganda
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:13 AM
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19. He enjoys people dying because of him.
Lethal injections, daisy cutters, tactical nukes, you name it. It's all about other people dying because of something he did or said. He loves it!
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:15 AM
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20. He would deny it - but I'm sure he gets off on the power of it
I remember him mocking Karla Faye. He enjoys having the power of life and death over others. That's what makes him so fucking scary....
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:16 AM
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21. Absolutely!
Nothing else would explain every single thing he has ever done in his life.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:43 AM
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24. I don't view him as being connected enough to care one way,...
,...or another. He lives in an "ivory white tower" above clouds which block from his view the horrifying consequences of his decisions. He hasn't a clue about the real world the majority of people live in. He lives in a fairy tale, a kind of fantasy. That's why I view him as incredibly dangerous. He is disconnected.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:46 AM
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25. Bush does not have a conscience
killing anyone does not bother him a bit.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:47 AM
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26. he loves killing period
sociopath
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caffefwee Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:32 PM
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27. Is he Bush or Ted Bundy
The two look a lot a like. Maybe they were separated at birth. Bundy got the chair, Bush became president. :evilgrin:
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:43 PM
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28. There's still time.... n/t
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:43 PM
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29. Certainly...
especially when it brings more profit for him and his cronies.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:14 PM
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30. Absolutely no question about it.
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 09:16 PM by sfg25
And this is what I saw at Walgreens yesterday:



http://newjersey.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/12697

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2cents Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:46 PM
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34. Yes
I think he consciously enjoys it - the smirk when he talks about death and destruction is a "dead" give away.

But he seems to be getting progressively screwier. I wonder if his subconscious is giving him some problems.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:49 PM
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35. Sociopaths like Bush* generally don't enjoy killing
There is neither joy nor guilt. People are just pawns to them--not sympathetic human beings--merely means to an end.

The real joy is the power that such life and death control represents to them.
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