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Bush_Sucks Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 03:49 PM
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What the hell is going on?
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 04:00 PM
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1. Tinfoil hat time.
:tinfoilhat:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 04:02 PM
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2. Bush screening US for Mental health.....true or not?
I read that "all consumers" are to undergo psychiatric evaluation as part of a new "freedom" initiative to be announced in July. Is this rumor?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 04:08 PM
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3. Here's the BMJ article:
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 04:09 PM by beam_me_up
Bush plans to screen whole US population for mental illness
Jeanne Lenzer

New York

A sweeping mental health initiative will be unveiled by President George W Bush in July.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/328/7454/1458

I wonder if they'll start with BUSH?

Edit: Oops...it s BMJ, not NYT as originally posted.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 04:15 PM
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4. That's why I ask, what is this "British Medical Journal"...
and why is this not being picked up by our press if true?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:05 PM
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9. Whitehouse Website Info
As linked from BMJ above:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/toc-2004.html
The President's New Freedom Initiative for People with Disabilities:
The 2004 Progress Report



PDF Version of New Freedom Initiative: The 2004 Progress Report
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/newfreedom-report-2004.pdf


Table of Contents:

Executive Summary (HTML)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/summary-2004.html

Background (HTML)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/background-2004.html

Chapter 1. Increasing Access Through Technology (HTML)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/chapter1-2004.html

Chapter 2. Expanding Educational Opportunities for Youth with Disabilities (HTML)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/chapter2-2004.html

Chapter 3. Integrating Americans with Disabilities into the Workplace (HTML)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/chapter3-2004.html

Chapter 4. Promoting Full Access to Community Life (HTML)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/chapter4-2004.html
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Tamiati Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 04:26 PM
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5. Veiled Categorizing
Is this perhaps another example of the way in which we are being labeled and categorized for future "evil" purposes ie; systematic elimination of certain persons??

We already have 2ml in prisons on non-violent offenses, now will start the 2nd process with the mental health issues??

Hmmm...just thinking out loud
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:56 PM
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6. Weeding out the undesirables as labeled by Bush
A mental health census? What will this genius think of next?
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:13 PM
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10. I don't usually wear tinfoil hats
but this subject does get worse. After they diagnose someone as mentally ill, they want to force people to get implants of psychiatric medication or face institutionalization:

Revolutionary treatment or worse thing since the lobotomy
September 26, 2003

(Philadelphia) - Researchers said yesterday that they are prepared to seek FDA approval of a surgically implanted tablet that could deliver daily doses of psychiatric medication for as long as a year.

The implants might revolutionize treatment of chronic mental illnesses like schizophrenia, which now require patients to take daily cocktails of powerful medications.

For some, the implant of haloperidol, a powerful antipsychotic drug, promises to stop the destructive spirals of psychosis that occur when patients stop taking medication because of side effects, logistical barriers, or lapses in memory. But patients' rights advocates say that implants of psychiatric medication would give the state coercive power unmatched since the age of the lobotomy.

story here

To read more about lobotomy victims, check this out www.psychosurgery.org
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:21 PM
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14. Soma.
...
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:59 PM
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7. I wish I owned a tinfoil hat company
I would make a fortune. Just selling to myself and relatives/friends!

Everything is crazy these days.
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King Of Paperboys Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 06:02 PM
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8. If anybody questions my mental health,
I'll cut them like a fish with my razor-sharp hat 'o foil.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:18 PM
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11. I'm embarrassed for some of you!!
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:20 PM
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12. Why is that?
Care to elaborate?
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Tamiati Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:18 PM
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13. Yes, please elaborate
:bounce:
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:24 PM
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15. Follow the money: a friend of BushCo has a mental-examination company?
If that is the case, we will be examined very carefully and very expensively.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:41 PM
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17. we will be examined very carefully
Not with a double layer o' tinfoil they won't.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 10:27 PM
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16. I'm not finding it

I've looked at the document, and find nothing about required "mental health evaluations"..... could someone tell me where this is in te document?

TIA

Kanary
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 11:33 PM
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18. Headline may be "alarmist"
This is the only thing I find in the document. PP33:
The Commission concluded that the mental health service delivery system in the United States must be substantively transformed. In the transformed system: 1) Americans understand that mental health is essential to overall health; 2) mental health care is consumer and family-driven; 3) disparities in mental health services are eliminated; 4) early mental health screening, assessment, and referral to services are common practice; 5) excellent mental health services are delivered and research is accelerated; and 6) technology is used to access mental health care and information.

In creeping fascism I wouldn't expect anything more blatant. This is merely an extension of what is already in progress. Get everyone used to the idea of BEING UNDER CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE, for example. Parents watch their children via monitors and remote cameras. Children go to school where their activities are constantly monitored. The schools, by the way, are more like prisons now; fenced in, metal detectors, etc. More and more children are being "treated" for disorders that no one had even thought of a generation ago. ARE WE BETTER OFF? Or are we just more CONDITIONED to accept a completely artificial (corporate owned and sold back to you) social reality.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:41 AM
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19. Great, so the poster just wanted to shake everyone up
with nothing to substantiate it?

Terrific.

Fear from both sides now.

Just terrific.

But, I thank you for clearing that up.

Kanary
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