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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:00 PM
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CBS News: Saudi Police in on Paul Johnsons Death?
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 05:07 PM by Cush
on now, east coast

new claims that some with Saudi Security helped kidnap Johnson, people want to know how they found the kidnappers so quickly AFTER Johnson was killed.

Plus, a former Saudi Government Worker is now heading the Saudi Al Qaeda cells
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:03 PM
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1. This is how they knew who killed Johnson in the first place.
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 05:08 PM by BullGooseLoony
The other story, that someone witnessed the dumping of the body, didn't make sense, since they didn't HAVE the body.

On edit: This also just goes to show you that the Saudis are willing to make things up and lie to cover their own asses.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:06 PM
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2. al Qaeda operatives are known to inhabit all echelons of the Saudi gov.
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 05:23 PM by Fenris
Policeman by day/terrorist by night. One of the kidnappers was probably working both sides. What better way to ensure you're never implicated? Turn on your associates.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:18 PM
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13. exactly
There are even many members of the Saudi Royal Family who's loyalties lie closer to the Wahhabi nuts than the family itself. The tension between those in power in Saudi who want to "modernise" and those who beleive that this modernisation will destroy the Islamic character of teh nation has been simmering since the 1950's and is set to blow fairly soon
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:50 PM
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14. and oddly, very oddly, they never ever capture any of them?
Not one single Al Qaeda has been brought to justice. All we have are people killed that someone claims are Al Qaeda, or people imprisoned in secret.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:55 PM
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15. Have there been any investigations by the Saudis into
the Al Qaeda infiltration? Has there been one single report issued?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:13 PM
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3. Kick...come on folks...are you putting this together? nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:44 PM
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9. .
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 07:41 PM
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11. Hey, 10 posts.
Alright!!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:02 PM
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16. What does all this mean BullGoose?
Does this mean bushco & family can't escape their association or is saudi exploding and the event bushco needs to cancel elections and declare martial law is in play?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 11:22 PM
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18. Well, for sure it means someone is lying.
Saudi security is much more closely linked to and informed about Al Qaeda than they're willing to admit to.

I'm no researcher, though. We need to get some DU researchers on this.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:14 PM
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4. This all stinks
x(
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:22 PM
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5. do you have a link for this?
i'd like to read the entire story

thanks for the heads up
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:27 PM
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6. Sure thing
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:30 PM
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7. Seems to me
Republicans are patsies. All it takes is money interests.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:32 PM
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8. "Quiet! Let the family grieve in peace!"
That's what was being advised when this horrible murder occured. Anyone who doesn't at least question everything that goes on from now till November is nuts. No tin foil hats needed, just look everything over twice!
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 06:55 PM
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10. ick
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 07:45 PM
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12. So What's The Estimate, Here...
Every Beheading = +3, +4 Points In Bush's Poll Numbers? Looks that way.

Yeah.. It's offensive calculus, but I'd be willing to bet I'm not the only one who's doing it.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:11 PM
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17. People, did you read the transcript from Wolf Blitzer's program today?
If not, you should READ THE WHOLE THING (long sucker...27 pages). But he interviewed a guy from the Saudi government... well let me post the pertinent portion:
Saudi Arabia's foreign policy adviser, Adel al- Jubeir.
snip....
BLITZER: The suggestion has been made by a lot of Saudi observers that, yes, Crown Prince Abdullah, the defense ministry, the security services are working closely with the U.S., cooperating in the war on terror, but the interior ministry, which oversees the religious police -- that there are a lot of sympathizers there within the religious police to al Qaeda. They're giving uniforms, police uniforms, they're giving warnings, they're giving information to these al Qaeda operatives, and Prince Nayef might be behind this.

AL-JUBEIR: I think that's in the realm of fiction. It's very easy to obtain police uniforms and military uniforms in Saudi Arabia, just as it is here. You go to an Army surplus store in the U.S., and you can get any uniform that you want.With regards to vehicles, what we found in the Al Muhaya compound is they took cars to a farm, painted them to look like police cars, and then used them in the attack against the compound.

The interior ministry is on the forefront of the war against terrorism. It is our Mabahath (ph) that is pursuing the terrorists, and they have been very successful at it, and they're getting better at it. The notion that our security services are infiltrated by the terrorists really doesn't hold. If that were the case, they would not be going after soft targets, they would be going after government installations. We haven't seen that.

more at link (a lot more, sigh..)
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0406/20/le.00.html
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