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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:11 PM
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Isn't it better to make pro/positive statements/campaigns?
This isn't really in response to anything in particuliar. It has developed in response over time to people getting offended by things and such. People tend to get offended when we attack their deep seated beliefs and values. If it is possible, we should avoid doing so and instead promote our position. Perhaps there are things in our position that they will relate to. Focusing on negative can get someone turned off before they really hear our position. Yes promoting the opposite of their values may still be perceived as offensive to them but it isn't as obvious. It takes thinking to get offended when statements are purely positive.
I know that it is easy to be inclined to negative statements and I am guilty myself. I am mainly thinking of this as far as winning people over. For example to promote gay marriage, we would say that freedom to marry should be a right and so forth while trying to avoid saying "Those crazy Fundies are trying to impose their religion on everyone." This is just one example.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:14 PM
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1. I agree
It is easier to make negative statements than positive statements, I've noticed. But probably this is a better and more helpful way.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:16 PM
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2. What's important is showing strong leadership
and making clear the distinction between one candidate and another. I tend to think there's a certain amount of negative campaigning that goes into that.

Some people need to be shamed for the positions they've taken.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:17 PM
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3. Yeah but by some people do you mean
Bush administration figures and of coures President Bush himself? Or do you mean members of Democratic Underground?

Bryant
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:25 PM
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6. DUers?
Well there are some that I disagree with here, but none of them hold positions that they should be ashamed of. We're all good folks, here.

I was referring to Bushco, and, actually, their supporters, too. The ignorant clowns who so vocally agree with what Bushco has done ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:18 PM
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4. How to win friends and influence people
It helps to listen to the person and see if you can find out what he likes/what bothers him. The person who may be anti-gay marriage may be someone who cherishes their overtime, for example. Talking to him about gay marriage might get you nowhere, but talking about overtime might. Once you've got him listening, if he brings up gay marriage, explain about 'wedge issues' and ask if he thinks those guys are really backing up his beliefs or only doing a snow job to get his support so they can do more things against his own interest. Stay polite and focused. The person may not admit you've made a point, but you will have opened his mind a crack.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:18 PM
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5. in the best of all possible worlds, sure.
In this world, dogs die, credit card payments are sent late and Democrats from the center leftwards are under heavy, negative attack. It's nice to be able to believe, a la Neville Chamberlain, in "peace in our time", but it's not going to happen.
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exgop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:03 PM
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7. This is like asking which is better: offense or defense?
The answer is that both are required to win. If you are a challenger to an incumbent, you have to give voters a reason to seek change (the negative attack) and a reason to want you (the positive vision).

It takes both to be successful.
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