Moore is most damning to the news media

[Cocoa]

You can feel it. The media knows that Moore's movie is going to reveal their failings.

Case in point, Michael Isikoff's LAME "debunking" of Bush sitting in the classroom. Isikoff knows people are going to ask, "why hasn't this video ever been on TV?"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5251769/site/newsweek

A report this week by the federal panel investigating 9/11 confirms Bush did remain in the classroom "for another five to seven minutes." It also offers Bush's account: "The president felt he should project strength and calm until he could better understand what was happening," the report states.


First, Moore "unearthed" this video? Anyone with a computer could easily have gotten this. They ALL chose NOT to.

Second, no one EVER asked Bush why he stayed there. Any reporter, including Isikoff, could have asked him, didn't have to wait for the commission to ask him.

Third, Bush's explanation for why he sat there doesn't exactly count as debunking. Never mind that the explanation doesn't make sense.

[Az]

1. Gotta say bull

"The president felt he should project strength and calm until he could better understand what was happening,"

This begs the question who he was projecting strength to. The audience he was sitting before had no idea what was going on. As the president he should have stood up, announced that something very important had come up, and left the freaking building to assume command of the situation. Taking charge does not mean sitting like a bump on a log waiting to be shown how to get out of the room.

The video shows the truth. Not only did he sit there for 20 minutes (not 5-7) but no one approached him to ask for direction. He was the most out of the loop person during the first 20 minutes of 911 of anyone. He was isolated. It is clear no one thought he had to know what was going on beyond what Card told him. He is a figure head. Dressing. All real orders channeled through Cheney.

[StClone]

3. Bush's Problem

He reacts on a gut level while attempting to follow a well-choreographed Rovism. When he ponders in hindsight what his gut has wrought he is first confused because he can assemble why he did what he did when asked to defend it. In the end both he and the decision are confuse incomprehensible messes.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

4. It more begs the question

"How does one 'better understand what was happening' when one sits on one's ass?"

[kerry-is-my-prez]

18. On CNBC some former CEO slammed Bush about this.

He had run several major corporations. He said: "This really concerns me. When I was a CEO and someone told me about some major emergency I didn't just SIT there for 7 minutes doing NOTHING. I would jump up - find the nearest phone - and start making phone calls. He should have been on the phone making calls pronto!"

And I DON'T think this guy was a Democrat. I was pretty stunned. I thought the same thing exactly. When I ran a psych facility and there was some dire emergency - I would have NEVER just sat there for 7 minutes while someone was at risk of dying. Even seriously mentally ill patients knew that if there was an emergency that the staff members would have to "jump up" and take care of the situation IMMEDIATELY. And you know what? They felt a LOT safer because of it... I didn't see any of them being scarred for life or "freaking out" because I had to rush off several times - and to even yell at them and tell them to settle down when there was an emergency.

What a crock of shit that he had to be careful not to upset the children...

[peekaloo]

2. Too bad his little book reading photo op wasn't broadcast

to the people in the WTC......I'm sure his "strength and calm" projecting would have been of great comfort.

[dave29]

5. Projecting Strength

sitting, doing nothing in a class full of kids with a book about a caterpillar. While the country is being attacked. OK. I buy that.

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. All the chimp had to say

was..."I'm sorry children, I have an emergency so I must leave." He IS the POTUS for crying out loud. LAME, LAME, LAME excuse.

This explains why the "media" has been so defensive in their interviews. Remember Hemmer on CNN? He was miffed that the media was being accused of not doing it's job.

[sendero]

7. If that...

...stupid, ridiculous, laughable excuse is the best they can do, they'd better get ready for a reaming in the court of public opinion because my pre-teen kids wouldn't buy that nonsense.

[Oddman]

8. Bush supporters don't care - they are going to vote for him no matter what

He could be a mass murderer (oh, wait, he is a mass murderer) and they would still vote for him.

He could be a c- student (oh, wait, he is a c- student) and they would still vote for him.

He could ruin our country (oh, wait, he did ruin our country) and they would still vote for him.

He could could be an ex con (oh, wait, he is an ex con) and they would still vote for him.

He could be a child molester (oh, wait, is he a child molester? I know he has killed thousands of innocent Iraqi children - does that count? Are they human?) and they would still vote for him.


“Cripes . . .I can’t even spell Preserdent . . .”

[AP]

9. Freak out 30 children or 300 million people? I'm freaked out now that he

just sat there.

As someone pointed out, that video is a home movie. This even wasn't broadcast on TV. He was projecting strenght and calm to about 30 people when he should have been projecting leadership to 300 million by getting his ass out of that chair and "presidenting."

[charlie105]

13. Excellent point. No national telecast, so what's the

point of preening. He probably needed the 7 minutes to get the 'joke'.

When the cop calls to say my son has been in a terrible accident, I'm gonna sit there for 7 minutes looking like a bump on a toad's ass, so as not to panic my wife.

[underpants]

10. 9/11 Commission says he was working on his "remarks"

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Between 9:15 and 9:30, the staff was busy arranging a return to Washington, while the
President consulted his senior advisers about his remarks.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing12/staff_statement_17.pdf

[rocktivity]

11. Didn't he say he didn't want to scare the children?

Then again, since he knew that one of the towers was hit before he left for the school, he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

http://www.tbtmradio.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20040606205339801

:headbang:
rocknation

[gpandas]

16. hope moore's movie makes this salient point. n/t

[Beam Me Up]

12. THE MEDIA IS MOST DMANABLE

The MEDIA has SUSTAINED this pResidency from day one. The CORPORATE OWNED MEDIA obviously WANTS this traitorous, murderous, frat boy DRUNK and his PNAC/neocon entourage to continue their agenda of destroying this country. With very very few exceptions, THEY have lost ALL credibility.

[jackstraw45]

17. The Corporate Media has become the propaganda arm of the the wealthy

in this country.

They do what they are told or their career is OVER.

Not that I liked her but Ashleigh Banfield is a perfect example. She questioned the war and is now GONE.

Bernie Shaw saw it coming and retired.

[skippysmom]

14. Moore has already taken them to task

First in Bowling for Columbine, where he decried their sensationaistic reporting. And now in 9/11 he does it again.

No wonder they hate him.

[yowzayowzayowza]

15. Ahh..

Posing posing as leadership. What a crock.

[DeepModem Mom]

19. I think you could be right! Moore embarrasses the press!

He reveals their uselessness, their total failure to do the job expected of a free press in a democracy. This chubby -- very talented -- Everyman had to go and do that job himself, single-handedly, while they sat on their fat wallets, or social-climbed at D.C. cocktail parties. That's why they're so venomous toward him.