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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:22 PM
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The loss of America's soul...
*We can have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. - Louis Brandeis

*Andy Young, former mayor of Atlanta, once observed: "Nothing is illegal if a hundred businessmen decide to do it."

*Experience declares that man is the only animal which devours his own kind; for I can apply no milder term to . . . the general prey of the rich on the poor - Thomas Jefferson


*There is no sickness in the world that can be cured by propaganda.-Thomas Merton

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As a native of the South, I grew up with the burden of Southern history: the legacy of overt and violent racism that soiled every Southern's soul. As a child of the 60's, I watched the news reports of Dr. King and the other prominent members of the civil rights movement and tried to square their calls of love and nonviolence with the anger and hatred spewing forth from the mouths of white people,friends and even relatives that I knew and loved. It was hard to reconcile the two.

And then, in the 1970's, something happened. Schools were desegregated and I began to know black folks as equals, and it seemed as if the burden was lifted; that the struggles of the 50's and 60's and somehow redeemed the land.

And in 1976, a native Southerner, Jimmy Carter got elected, and the State of Mississippi gave President Carter the deciding electoral votes. Hundreds of thousands of black Mississippians and white moderates banded together to carry the state for a native of the South and a moderate Democrat to boot.

It got even better. Jimmy Carter held a town meeting in Yazoo City, Mississippi, a national town meeting on network television, to extoll the successful integration of public schools. It seemed as if the United States was moving into a new era, where the original sin of race in America was being overcome in the WORST place for race relations.

Then, in 1980, it all seemed to change.

Ronald Reagan came to Philadelphia MS (Philadelphia, the city of love) and 17 years and 17 miles from the murders of three nonviolent civil rights workers, and invoked the phrase "states rights." There it was an appeal to history; an appeal to the buried racists who had been in retreat; an appeal to the very worst in our nature.

And at that point, the Republicans made their deal with the devil. They knew that they had to take back the South to get control of this country. So, they did what old Southern politicians had done for 100 years. They divided and conquered. They reopened the historical divide between blue collar folks and black folks. They did it on the basis of race.

Then, they joined hands with the moral majority and utilized the wedge issues of abortion and the death penalty and organized the theology and preaching of ministers across the South, and these preachers stood in their pulpits and told these people that America had lost its way. That the liberals in America had taken this country down the wrong path, and that they had to vote for the conservatives to do God's will. And the people in these congregations, with simple understandings of faith and a belief in the authority of preachers, believed what they were told. And so the Republicans divided people on the basis of religion.

And then Reagan won.

All of a sudden, it changed. All of a sudden we were in dirty wars in South and Central America. All of a sudden, the Republican Party became strong in the South and America as a whole.

All of a sudden, there were tax breaks for the wealthy. And the military industrial complex was fed, and more wealthy people made more money.

It all changed with Reagan.

Now, some twenty five years down the road, America is the most divided it has been since the civil war.

The Republicans have been successful in doing in America as a whole, what had been done by Southern politicians for years and years, dividing and conquering.

And it is all intentional, of course. Divide and conquer. Keep the average people fighting among themselves. Distract them with wedge issues, so that they can enrich themselves.

It is all about money, you know.

That's what it is all about.

Just my two cents on a rainy MOnday afternoon.






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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:27 PM
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1. The Begining of The End
was when the supreme court granted personhood to corporations. I believe that this is the most important issue of our time - the divide between the have and have nots. Those with the money control the agenda - that is not democracy. Perhaps this is why the roar over electronic voting equipment isn't as loud as one would imagine - there's lots of rich democrats in washington too.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:40 PM
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6. I couldn't agree with you more! Corporate Personhood . . .
...was the beginning of the fall of democracy. I can't believe how many people are oblivious of this issue & worse, how few care when I mention it.




Corporate Personhood
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:27 PM
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2. capitalism and democracy cannot co-exist
We can have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. - Louis Brandeis

great quote from Brandeis !!!

this is fundamentally, at least for me, the objection the left has with the democratic party ... democrats continue to endorse free market capitalism ... and as long as they do, our government will continue to be sold to the highest bidder ...

the amassing of great wealth will always destroy the highest ideals of democracy ... it is folly to believe that mechanisms can be invented to keep the greediest in government from taking handouts from those who wish to buy their favors ...
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:48 PM
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9. A very limited democracy.
What Michael Lind called "The Confederate Theory of the Constitution".
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 06:28 PM
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13. not familiar with this theory
sounds like being "a little bit pregnant" to me ...
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:28 PM
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16. Michael Lind...wrote "Up From Conservatism"
One of their young golden boys, Lind was an early Conservative apostate, and wrote a book deconstructing the ideology. One of the chapters was "The Confederate Theory of the Constitution", where he discusses how the right likes limited goverment.

But the Federalist Society is interested in a challenge of a different kind. To its credit, the organization operates with an open and very public agenda. On its web page, for example, it lays out its conservative agenda. "The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities."

Even conservative writer Michael Lind would call this 19th-century view "the Confederate theory of the Constitution."

Speakers at one national Federalist Society-sponsored lawyers convention proposed far-reaching judicial reforms that included the abolition of judicial review, limiting the powers of federal courts and stripping the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over certain matters.


http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/hijakjustice.html

Up From Conservatism at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684831864/102-7878744-2573703?v=glance

meet Michael Lind:
http://www.newamerica.net/index.cfm?pg=Bio&contactID=57
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:29 PM
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3. There never has been nor will there ever be a finer analysis than this!
One of the best pieces I have ever seen on DU. It should be a wake up call to all who read it.
Thank you!
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:34 PM
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4. Another Great "Speech" on this topic
Read this - same subject matter

http://www.alternet.org/story/18954/
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:47 PM
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8. What can you say about Bill Moyers?
Has he ever written anything that wasn't just riviting?
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:52 PM
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10. Wasnt Biil Moyers a preacher at one time?
Seems like I heard that somewhere.
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:06 PM
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14. Yes,he was a moderate Southern Baptist one, before they went Fundamentali
And he was even from TEXAS. Wow, times have really changed.

Love Bill Moyers & wish he would reconsider about retiring unless he has some health issues or something. This country needs him!
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:35 PM
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5. Your $.02 is worth a million bucks
to those who have eyes to see. Thanks for an insightful and heartfelt post.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 05:46 PM
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7. Pretty good post, but I think its about more than money....
...theres as sort of dark side going on thats hard to put my finger on....more than just greed.
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:11 PM
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15. I agree. It's also about a sort of totalitarianism of power and the evil
of putting others down (or oppressing them) to gain admiration from others of their ilk. It's like wanting to be God and to be admired & envied to the point of worship.

I don't know about what I just said, but it's pretty easy to see that power is right up there with the corruption of excess wealth.

I wouldn't know, but maybe they get past the point of wanting any more wealth, so they turn to power grabs.

I don't think those people believe they can ever have enough power or money for themselves.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 06:04 PM
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11. Yes, it's all about $$$$$. Exactly. To them, that is.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 06:19 PM
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12. I remember the hope and optimism with Jimmy Carter also....
...and how it all disappeared with the election of Ronald Reagan.
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Tamiati Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:39 PM
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17. Even though
the economic state of the country at the time was depressed, it was ALL of the country........we saw Jimmy Carter as our hope for humanity his choices were realistic and he cared about equality for the poor & oppressed without regard to color.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:56 PM
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18. There was no depression....there was a temporary inflation....
I know if you listen to the Repubs tell it, it was worse that the Great Depression. Unfortunately, Ronald Reagan ran up huge deficits and made the high interest rates and inflation stay around longer than it probably would have under Jimmy Carter. I do not know your age Tamiati, but I don't recall it that way at all. The unemployment rate under was lower under Carter than the 8-year average under Reagan. Yes, there was high inflation in his last year or so due to gas prices doubling...but he made changes that Reagan used to his advantage to help bring down inflation, including Fed Chair Paul Volcker...
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