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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:05 PM
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BREAKING: Jack Ryan's (R-senate hopeful in IL) divorce records unsealed
Jeri Ryan alleges that Jack Ryan tried to take her to sex clubs in New Orleans and Paris. He took her to an S&M club and wanted to have sex with another couple watching. It's breaking on the news now. More to come.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:07 PM
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1. More Republican family values, eh? n/t
.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:07 PM
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2. Bwaahahahahaha!
Toast.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:07 PM
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3. ...
Ryan will hold a news conference in a few minutes at the Chicago Hilton and Towers.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:08 PM
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5. Rich Samuels WTTW says there are about 10lbs of records.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:42 PM
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34. What is WTTW??? n/t
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:43 PM
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36. WTTW is a TV station.
n/t
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:16 PM
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94. It is the PBS affiliate here in Chicago..
eom
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:08 PM
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4. Jeri Ryan as in 'Resistance is futile'?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:44 PM
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101. Yup nt
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:08 PM
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6. wasn't this guy vetted before he announced his candidacy?
n/t
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:48 PM
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39. he bought the primary
against much more qualified, but less rich, republicans. I almost feel sorry for the IL GOP. Not really. :-)

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:09 PM
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7. Senator Barack Obama
He's about to become the most powerful black politician in America.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:10 PM
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9. Hey I aint got no problems with a little freaky play. . .
. . .but if he is going to run as a Republican this could be a problem.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:50 PM
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41. His wife had a problem with it.....does that count?
If she had no problem with it them it would be different. But she did.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:55 PM
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45. Yes that does count. . .but I am not going to stand in judgement. . .
. . .that is for Freepers, that fact that he is into freaky stuff is not a problem, the fact that his is alleged to have forced his wife to partake is a problem. Not to mention it makes it hard for him to run a family values campaign.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:09 PM
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8. WAIT! Jeri "7 of 9" Ryan?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:10 PM
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11. Yeap
:kick:
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:14 PM
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19. Sweeeeet...
Think she'd "assimilate" a Democrat now? Like, maybe... me?

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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:31 PM
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78. whoa! no sh*t?
n/t
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dodger501 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:10 PM
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12. Yes, that is her
The lady in the cat suit.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:10 PM
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13. None other. n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:13 PM
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18. well HELL! I wish she'd take ME to an S&M club!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:04 PM
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88. Hell she can take to to an M&M club if she wanted to


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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:12 PM
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16. I met her once
At A Star Trek convention (yes I am a geek). Oh my God, If I were married to her resistance would be futile. She is the best looking woman I have ever seen in person. That Jack Ryan is a frickin moron!!!
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:14 PM
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20. And she cooks too. She was on one of the talk shows, Conan or Leno,
talking about her stint as a line cook for a restaurant in L.A. I believe, a job she did as a fun hobby in her spare time.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:37 PM
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29. Yes...
...that Jeri Ryan. Wanted her to get freaky for public consumption. More GOP family values, he'll have already withdrawn by the time I post this.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:10 PM
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10. Link please?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:11 PM
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14. Its still breaking. . .no link yet
:kick:
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:11 PM
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15. let's not forget
cheney's recent visit to chicago to help raise funds for ryan.

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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:15 PM
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22. Now Jack's off Dick's...
list of favorite people.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:20 PM
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27. did you mean to say
jacks off dicks?

lol
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:14 PM
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92. Good catch, and good play on words!
I'm in awe of you!

Bake
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:12 PM
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17. "I, Barak Obama, do solemnly swear that I will execute the office of...
...United States Senator...."

:bounce::party:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:15 PM
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21. Don't count on it yet...
Is it too late for Illinois Republicans to choose a different nominee ? Ryan may drop out.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:17 PM
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25. It won't matter--- the wound is fatal.
They blew it with Ryan...
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:18 PM
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26. ryan is already gone......Jim Edgar is Bush's Illinois campaign manager
so he still has a hand in

I bet he knew about this a long time ago, and, heart/wifey wife willing, he'd be more than happy to step right in

that could make it interesting, cause, for whatever reason, he's very popular in Illinois
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:26 PM
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28. Evidently, replacing Ryan on the ballott has been considered.
State Republican leaders asked the Republican National Committee recently whether they had the authority to name a replacement candidate if Ryan decided to withdraw, according to a GOP source speaking only on condition of anonymity. The source said the RNC told them the state party did have such authority.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/061804_ap_ns_jackryan.html

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:16 PM
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23. They never cease to amaze me. NEVER!!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:16 PM
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24. Illinois Repukes are saying she made it all up on WTTW
:kick:
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:38 PM
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30. Let's compile details on the hypocrisy of Jack Ryan:
From the Chicago Sun Times, May 24, 2004, an unsigned editorial:
Is this how it's going to be? The U.S. Senate race in Illinois is just beginning to awaken from its post-primary nap, and the first story out of the box is about Republican Jack Ryan dispatching a lackey with a video camera to dog his Democratic rival, state Sen. Barack Obama. This employee has been following Obama everywhere, even to the bathroom, recording his phone calls to his wife, sticking a camera in his face, heckling him while he talks to the press.

We thought better of Ryan. A class act with a closet full of skeletons himself, we expected he'd want to stay on the high road. But as bad as a renegade campaign worker would have been, the truth behind Justin Warfel, Ryan's 24-year-old cameraman, is worse. It's a deliberate attempt, Ryan's campaign says, to "make sure that message is consistent."

We think it's worse than that. We think it's harassment, and a sign of premature desperation from Ryan, who trails in the polls. Obama has not been caught in any contradictions by this stunt, but Ryan has been exposed as a candidate willing to resort to unprecedented tactics -- which in Illinois is saying a mouthful -- to shore up his sagging hopes. If this is any indication of how the campaign will unfold, hang on to your hats. It's going to be a wild ride.


More on it from the Chicago Sun Times, from Richard Roeper on May 24:
Eight columns for the price of one: Is there anyone who wasn't creeped out by the story about the guy from the Jack Ryan campaign who's following state Sen. Barack Obama with a hand-held video camera? Even when you're running for the U.S. Senate, you should not have to contend with a mope who stalks you all the way to the bathroom door. And if anyone should be sensitive to the privacy rights of political candidates, it should be Ryan, who wants his divorce records to remain sealed.

Over the weekend, a spokeswoman for Ryan apologized and said the vid-stalker has been told to maintain a "comfortable distance" -- but the best public relations move would be to pull the guy from active duty.


From the AP, on March 17:
Ryan, a millionaire investment banker who later became a high school teacher, again refused Wednesday to release all the documents from his 1995 divorce from "Star Trek: Voyager" and "Boston Public" actress Jeri Ryan. Jack Ryan says he has released everything except for documents pertaining to his 9-year-old son.

So, in other words, either the documents involving all of this also applied to his son (ick!), or he's lying. I wonder which one?

Anybody else got anything? I'd love to see his public comments on matters of sexuality... if he's for keeping people's private lives private, then he shouldn't be attacked on this, but if he's not, then he brought it upon himself.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:39 PM
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31. For us non Illinois people
I wonder if anyone could tell us how the race was going until now? Who was ahead? It was my understanding that the Democrat was leading, but I read that weeks ago.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:40 PM
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32. Obama already had a good lead. . .
:kick:
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:48 PM
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96. This is just another nail in the GOP coffin in Illinois.
They are total idiots. The former governor, Governor Ryan, spent his entire term with the "licenses for bribes" scandal hanging over his head. I believe he has now been indicted. Then the idiots of Illinois who vote GOP, gave the nod in the primary to another Ryan.

As the top, and perhaps only top Republican in Illinois said recently, the GOP in Illinois is in deep water and far from shore.

Now we get to replace our stealth GOP senator, Fitzgerald, with a terrific Democrat.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:41 PM
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33. nahnahnah nahnahnahnah!
hey hey hey goodbye. Instant karma just got Jack ryan, maybe next time he won't some asswad with a video camera stalk down his opponent.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:42 PM
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35. I hear Tom Clancy is PISSED...
n/t


:evilgrin:
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:09 PM
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57. ah yes, Mr. Moral Outrage himself....that man needs to get laid...
...in the worst way.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:49 PM
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84. Indeed, but he note that "Jack Ryan" is his main character's name!
Though, to Mr. Clancy's credit, he has expresed a lot of disgust with the Bush Admin., saying they are ruining the military and he's very much against the Iraq War, on a operational level...of course.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:03 PM
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87. I heard a talk show with him once...
... and he was spewing the RW talking points like they were tattooed on his arm.

I have zero respect for him, even if he was the last moron in the country to figure out what a cluster-eff Iraq is.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:46 PM
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37. what do we tell our children?
maybe Ryan friend Bill Bennett can help us through this difficult time...

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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:48 PM
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38. Well his press conference should be good
:kick:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:54 PM
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43. Kinky with Jeri...
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:02 PM
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49. Ouch, why did you have to do that to me - now I am having trouble
breathing correctly!! lol - 7 of 9 my ass - she's 10 of 9 !!! HAHAHAHA

Where Bob Barr the pornographer when you need him??
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Baltimoreboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:09 PM
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56. The photo alone was worth reading for
Wow.

Wow again.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #43
89. that is so right its wrong.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #37
72. Is that photo shopped?
They have so much in common as well as their mannerisms.
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:48 PM
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40. Please provide a link when one is available
Edited on Mon Jun-21-04 07:49 PM by tcfrogs
I've been searching all the local Chicago websites, and nothing about the details you included.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:50 PM
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42. Will do
:kick:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:27 PM
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74. 2 sides of ryan
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:33 PM
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98. You gotta love the pious holy roller thing. I know little about this race
aside fromt his scandal, the fact that this guy is rich and Obama is black. But just from what little I've read, with the stunt of harrassing the Dem with the videotape drone, I've got no respect for this guy (Ryan). I mean what kind of scum would do something like that?

Even now has he discontinued the videotaping harrassment? I would imagine much more interesting videotape could be obtained of Jack Ryan's nocturnal escapades. "Candidates gone wild".

How much more good money after bad are Repubs in Illinois and nationally going to throw into this loser's race?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:54 PM
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44. For real?
I thought this might not really be true but I spread it anyways. Personally I could care less if someone wants to hump in front of another couple but I guess it might have gotten pretty creepy if it ended up in divorce records.
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:58 PM
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46. A LINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040621ryan,0,4704601.story?coll=chi-newsbreaking-hed

subscription required, but here's the story:

Ryan papers contain charges he pressured wife for public sex

By Maura Kelly Lannan
The Associated Press
Published June 21, 2004, 7:49 PM CDT

Republican Senate candidate Jack Ryan pressured his wife, actress Jeri Lynn Ryan, to have sex in clubs while others watched, she charged in divorce documents released Monday.

The "Boston Public" and "Star Trek: Voyager" actress said she angered Ryan by refusing. She did acknowledge infidelity on her part, which she said took place after their marriage was irretrievably broken.

In the documents Ryan denied the allegations, saying he had been "faithful and loyal" to his wife.

Jeri Lynn Ryan charged during a custody hearing that Ryan took her on surprise trips to New Orleans, New York and Paris in 1998, and that he insisted she go to sex clubs with him on each trip.

She said that after going out to dinner with Ryan in New York, he demanded that she go to a club with him.

"It was a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling," she said. She said Ryan asked her to perform a sexual act while others watched, and she refused.

She said they left and Ryan apologized to her and said it was out of his system. But then, she said, he took her to Paris and again took her to a sex club.

She said she cried and became physically ill at the club, and her husband got angry with her. She said she could never get over that incident.

"I did arrange romantic getaways for us, but that did not include the type of activity she described," Ryan said in the papers. "We did go to one avant-garde nightclub in Paris which was more than either one of us felt comfortable with. We left and vowed never to return," he told the court.

He said he felt bad for their son that she would falsely accuse him and said she said she knew he had political aspirations.

Judge Robert Schnider of Superior Court in Los Angeles ordered Friday the unsealing of portions of the records, whose release was sought by the Chicago Tribune and Chicago TV station WLS.

The two had vigorously fought the public disclosure of the files since before Jack Ryan's win in the March 16 Republican primary. They have argued making them public would be harmful to their 9-year-old son, Alex.

The Ryans said they were "disturbed and angered" by the decision but decided not to appeal.

Ryan had repeatedly assured GOP leaders the files contain nothing embarrassing enough to torpedo his bid for the Senate against Democrat Barack Obama.

Rumors about the documents' contents have been circulating since before the March 16 primary. Some of his GOP opponents raised them as an issue in that campaign, but Ryan won the primary handily.

Schnider said making the records public would prove harmful to the Ryans' son, and could prove embarrassing to the former investment banker and teacher. But he said the public deserved to know the contents.
Copyright © 2004, The Associated Press

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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:01 PM
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48. Press conference is on
:kick:
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:06 PM
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53. Translation:
""We did go to one avant-garde nightclub in Paris ...."

means

"Um, there was probably a witness in Paris. Nobody knew us in New York and we wore masks in New Orleans."
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:00 PM
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47. woaaah....Illinois is alot of fun, politcally, huh?
Actually, I dont have any problem with a little kink.

But the GOP are such hypocrites on this stuff.

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:03 PM
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50. So let me get this straight.....
This Ryan character was married to "7 of 9" from the Star Trek series? The incredibly gorgeous one in the skintight suit? And he wanted other men to have sex with her?

Ok, Daily Show Moment..... WHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA????????
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:04 PM
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51. Yup you got it right
:kick:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:05 PM
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52. The supporters is saying Jack's business is Jack's business. . .
. . .I guess that only applies to Repukes and not Clenis.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:06 PM
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54. Ryan speaking now. . .
. . .talking about fatherhood.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:07 PM
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55. He is talking about protecting children. . .
. . .BS.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:10 PM
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58. Hey e-mail this to Howard Stern. . .
:kick:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:11 PM
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59. Oh Oh here come the questions!
:kick:
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:12 PM
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60. Yep
Is her full name JeriLynne? That's what he keeps calling her.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:13 PM
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61. Do tell!
More info please, if you have a chance!

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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:14 PM
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62. He is dodging and ducking
:kick:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:19 PM
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63. LOL
Drudge has got it. . .LOL

Republican Senate candidate 'pressured wife for public sex'...
http://cbs2chicago.com/illinois/IL--SenateRace-in/resources_news_html
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 04:02 PM
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104. "public sex..." I think I get it now...!
Those damn Republicans want to privatize everything EXCEPT sex!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:20 PM
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64. OMFG!!! I THINK THE MORAN IS STAYING IN THE RACE!!!!!!
He's gonna had the Senate seat to Barack Obama on a silver platter!
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:20 PM
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65. I Love It When Republicans Self-Destruct
And then are too egotistical and self-centered to realize it. :-)

DTH
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:20 PM
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66. Anyone remember who came in 2nd during the primary?
Was it the racist Oberweis?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:24 PM
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67. No idea
:kick:
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:27 PM
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69. Rauschenberger (sp?)
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:27 PM
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73. Thanks.
He's from Elgin. I have to go to his district on Saturday.

:eyes:
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:38 PM
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80. I was wrong
Ryan 35.5%, Oberweis 23.5%, Rauschenberger 20.0%
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:39 PM
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81. Thanks again.
So it's the racist.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:13 PM
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91. Why do you say that Jim Oberweis is a racist?
Because he wants to keep ILLEGAL immigrants out of the US?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:28 PM
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76. I thought so.
Edited on Mon Jun-21-04 08:29 PM by Tatiana
Obama in a LANDSLIDE, ya heard!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:25 PM
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68. He just promised never to step foot in a sex club
:kick:
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:27 PM
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70. And how to hell will he prove it?
LMAO, this is too funny for words.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:28 PM
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75. He gave us his word. . .
. . .that should be enough, shouldn't it? LOL
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:27 PM
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71. Now our work is cut out for us.
We've gotta find a way to trick him into doing just that! Maybe cover all the cages with tarps and put red white and blue bunting and crepe paper all around and disguise it as a campaign office and invite him! Then in a flash the tarps come down and the cameras start snapping!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:29 PM
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77. With Katherine Harris doing a pole dance!
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:44 PM
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82. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Will I ever feel clean again? ;^) n/t
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:15 PM
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93. Um, that's Katherine Whoress!!
N/M
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:45 PM
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83. Shades of Gary Hart, he is as good as inviting the press to tail him. n/t
Edited on Mon Jun-21-04 08:46 PM by indie_voter
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:32 PM
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79. FWIW--I think a Dem will get Edwards' Sen. seat in NC
I think Erskine Bowles will win John Edwards' Senate seat in NC.

My hope is that we Dems take back the Senate by a few seats. Sounds like Obama is sure to win now since he was already up anyway.


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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:52 PM
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85. Did he want to have sex w/ the couple watching?
Or just let them watch while he and his wife were having sex?

Clearly, this failure in the moral fabric in the family is Bill Clinton's fault. If he had not seduced all of those innocent young girls, then American morality would not be on the decline as it is today. Once again, good Republicans everywhere have been victimised by Billary Klintoon. Or at least this is what people will be calling in to say on Pig Boy's show tomorrow.

And, perhaps more importantly, should "Pig Boy" be one word or two?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:59 PM
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86. trib will probably endorse him anyway
they pretty much go 100% GOP in the contested races.

He's got a nice Bushesque set of props behind him - two black men, one white woman, and one white male.
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:09 PM
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90. Not necessarily
If Ryan is too damaged of a candidate, and falls even further behind, they might endores Obama.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:18 PM
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95. "nothing “embarrassing” would be revealed": (this morning's news)
Most of the campaign consultants interviewed saw that the first mistake Ryan made was not to unseal the child custody records as soon as their existence was known. While the contents of the divorce records ultimately destroyed Democratic U.S. Senate primary candidate Blair Hull’s campaign in March, Hull chose to volunteer the contents before the Chicago Tribune’s lawsuit forced the revelation. Sources within the Hull campaign said that media sources are able to open sealed documents 90 percent of the time, and they knew the salacious nature of the Hull divorce proceedings would eventually get out, causing them to reveal the records themselves.

“I would have told Ryan to open the records early on, right away, and get them off the table,” Leahy, who worked on dairyman Jim Oberweis’ primary campaign, said. “He didn’t do that, hoping that he would be able to keep embarrassing things covered up. Now his credibility is at stake, and now it depends on what the files actually say.”

Ryan has insisted since the beginning of the controversy that he would not open the records because they would harm his son. Republican party leaders report that he told them nothing “embarrassing” would be revealed even if the records were unsealed.

Again, he said, he was concerned only about his son’s welfare.


http://www.illinoisleader.com/news/newsview.asp?c=16849
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:26 PM
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97. Well, if my wife looked like her...
...I'd probably want to be seen with her.

But this is taking it a little too far.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:36 PM
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99. I laughed my ass off when I heard the news tonight!
No wonder!!!!!! he wanted them sealed! He's finished! Buh Bye Jackie! Hello, Obama!!! WooHoo! Republican Family Values INDEED!
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thebigmansentme Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:37 PM
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100. i think i know what this calls for
Edited on Mon Jun-21-04 11:39 PM by thebigmansentme














now what in the world posessed her to marry a republican ?!!!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:48 PM
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102. I need a NAME
... of ANY sex club in New Orleans that's mentioned. I may be able to find out something, as I have played in a number of clubs and know quite a few people in the French Quarter.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 03:36 PM
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103. Who knows. . .
. . .they are not mentioned.
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