How do you feel about Monica Lewinsky today?

[Paragon]

I bear her no ill will - in fact, I don't think I ever did. She's even kind of cute in her own chunky, airheaded way.

Now Gennifer Flowers and Paula Jones, on the other hand...:mad:

[Fenris]

1. I feel sorry for her. And attracted to her.

[thebobartist]

2. I guess she's okay.

She looks kind of devious and even unintelligent, but I bear her no real ill will because my thoughts on her are only based on what she looks like.

[mitchum]

3. She's just another spoiled Princess...

but the real villain was Tripp. Lewinsky was just a not-too-bright ditz.

[JBoris]

4. I will never forgive her

I'm sorry but she souled have known better. If you are going to get involved with such a high profile man, and if she truly had feelings for him she should have kept quiet or lied or something

[JBoris]

5. she is kinda cute though

[Paragon]

6. Takes two to tango

The blame certainly doesn't lie all at her feet - given her age, it's Bill who really should've known better.

[LittleApple81]

8. I like Clinton but this was his fault. Temptation is always there,

it was up to him to respect the dignity of his job as President.

That said, it was consensual sex and she was a willing participant.

[Skidmore]

24. The saw about her age really has always irked me.

By the time I was her age at the time of those events, I had been working part-time or more for several years, was married, had one child, and was attending university while working full-time. I was an adult with responsibilities. She was no child. She was an adult responsible for her behavior.

[swag]

7. I wouldn't let her suck my cock

[mithnanthy]

14. Don't get me started...

Sure, she seduced Clinton..we know he fell for it. That's been hashed over endlessly. It was very stupid on his part. But WHAT was she, at the time? An innocent young girl? Are you kidding me? Some 16 year old girls (and younger) know how to seduce. She had already had an affair with another married man before Clinton, and nearly distroyed THAT marriage, while "pretending" to the wife, to be an "innocent" young woman, babysitting their children. She's an attention getter, a spoiled Princess, who didn't care if she was after a married man. It didn't stop her in the least. She was a Goddess in her own mind, and any guys who find her behavior "innocent", wait until a "Monica" type of attention getter, causes them more grief than they've ever experienced. I've been in the Nightclub business for over 30 years and see "Monicas" ALL the time. They are ruthless brats, wanting everything, no matter what the "cost". I will NEVER forgive her selfish greedy pursuit of a married man, no matter who he was.

[BiggJawn]

39. Guess I'll never have to wory about that...

"...wait until a "Monica" type of attention getter, causes them more grief than they've ever experienced..."

Being fat, balding, middle-aged, poor and POWERLESS, that type wouldn't even say "excuse me" as she stepped on me....

That said, I'd still enjoy the chance to make Monica forget all about the Big Dawg...:evilgrin:

[mithnanthy]

17. sorry, swag

my reply was meant for the poster. I admire your decision....good for you! (and nicely phrased too!)

[gatlingforme]

27. LOL, VERY CLASSY

[Cheswick2.0]

35. I am sure she is heart broken

[Solly Mack]

9. same as i did back then...don't care /her sex life ain't my business

But I still detest Linda Tripp

[linazelle]

10. I still have my tinfoil hat on re: Monica---the whole thing was too much

of a coincidence even with/without Tripp. I swear if I didn't know better, I'd think Monica was a CIA/undercover plant. Did she give up her life to bring Bill down? We will never know but I wouldn't put it past "them".

[Warren DeMontague]

44. Check This Out...

This is an excerpt from the April 30 entry of my blog. I'm cutting and pasting because I don't feel like typing it again. But suffice it to say that, a) the theory is that, maybe Monica wasn't undercover herself, but certain high-powered folks knew who she was, personality-wise, and knew she would try to seduce Clinton, and put her where she was on purpose... and b) there's a cab driver in DC who's got a full tell-all book-- with lots of dirt, on lots of stuff-- inside him, but he's convinced no one would believe him.

Perhaps the most interesting part of the trip to DC was the cab ride to the airport. We flew out of Dulles, so it was a good hour in the cab. My wife immediately engaged the cab driver in a discussion of the weekend's events. I was sitting in such a way so that I could see the various angels and other religious iconography on the cab driver's dashboard, yet my wife could not. I cringed as I heard her begin discussing the march with him-- I knew the cab ride was going to be long, and I was hoarse and tired and really not up for an hour long argument with someone who was on the other side...
Well, the lesson to yours truly is, I should not pre-judge people, for religion or anything else. The guy was intelligent and sensible and pretty funny. First thing he said when my wife told him we were there to march for choice was, "Good. If you had said you were on the other side, I woulda put you out of the cab right here" ... He then began talking about what a weird place DC is, and how, as a cab driver, he sees all kinds of things that people wouldn't believe. He told us that most of the "Family Values" politicians are hypocrites and drunks-- "just like how you meet the most devils in church".. (Have to remember that one) well, that didn't really surprise me. He told some great stories, though, and-- unlike the high-caliber lies that are coming out of Washington these days- his stories made a lot of sense.

He said that, as a cab driver, he heard things no one else did- first off, he catches all these politicians when they're drunk, or with their illicit lovers, or whatever-- and, like most arrogant sumbitches in this country, they figure that a peon cab driver isn't paying attention, and most likely doesn't even speak much English. He also mentioned how, in the run-up to the 1996 election, he gave a ride to two Republicans discussing strategy for the Dole Campaign...
"I asked them, 'do you think he has any chance of winning'?" he said.. "'hell no'. They replied-- 'But Clinton will never finish his second term, anyway... Remember these initials-- M.L.'"...

In effect, the cab driver said, the whole Monica Lewinsky thing had been planned, in advance. The GOP knew who she was, and that she would try to seduce the President, and that he would take her up on it and then lie about it... So they arranged to have her work in close proximity to him. Okay, maybe this was all a big bunch of BS. But this guy had no reason to make a story like that up.. Looking at the Monica Lewinsky timeline, maybe what happened was that the information was already out in some circles by that time.. Who knows. But I wouldn't be surprised if, on some level, the whole thing was some kind of set-up. Guess they misjudged one thing, however-- the American people's capacity for outrage over a friggin blowjob was not as great as they suspected... (Unfortunately, it seems that the American people's capacity for outrage at being lied into a pointless war has been misjudged by some of us, as well.)

[ArkDem]

53. I thought she was the one who went down.

[Tamiati]

11. Rather have

Monica & Bill and a little dily dalying (which is HIS problem, not OURS)

than BUSH & IRAQ...hell now look what we have now going on & our great leaders (?) are not UP IN ARMS in ACTION or anything.....WTF

PLeaZZZZ, when are they gonna wake up and smell the bacon burning anyway??

Makes ya wonder if we ain't gonna get what we have coming to us anyway....(that is a joke...ok....kinda)

[Aidoneus]

12. didn't give a damn then

or now..

[unteagles]

13. Wake up!

This falls squarely on the shoulders of Clinton. As a good liberal, I've defended him and his record and will continue to do so, but I acknowledge that his behavior with Lewinsky was reprehensible. He should've been above the flirtations of one infatuated with power. He should've respected his marraige.

As a man, he was average. As a husband, he may have been failed (who will decide but Hillary and himself). As a world leader, though, he was excellent.

[TexasBushwhacker]

18. If I was Hilary ....

I would have said "NO FEMALE INTERNS"!

Monica had an agenda. She told someone she was going to get her "presidential knee pads". Good grief. Clinton is a very intelligent, skilled politician and I think he was a good president, but when came to Monica he was just a typical stupid man. Geez, what a disappointment.

[Mike Daniels]

37. Agreed

Clinton didn't learn from his experienced during the campaign and he should have had more common sense than he displayed.

Clinton alone f'ed up and he alone bares the blame for the hell he went through. If he had kept it zipped up none of this would ever have happened.

[GarySeven]

15. The only reason to keep the dress ...

was for blackmail. She either was a SET UP by the Republicans or she was planning on shaking him down for herself. Either way, Clinton should have known he was vulnerable to blackmail, if not from miss googly-eye, then from the repugs or a foreign power. For playing along, she should burn in hell.

[Randypiper]

34. She didn't clean the dress

because she was waiting for a larger load. I admire her somewhat because she never turned on him during the whole ordeal.

[RobinA]

71. Agree Here

I kept waiting for her to turn on him and she did not, for which I give her major credit. Flicking her thong at a married man was classless on her part, but he gets the blame for falling for it.

She kept the dress as a trophy, no set-up required. Everybody's got something stashed in a drawer somewhere, and if you've bagged the leader of the free world you ain't gonna let it go without a memento or two.

[theboss]

36. She could have been protecting herself too

It's obvious that Clinton was willing to throw her under the bus when the story came out. If she hadn't kept the dress, we'd all be calling her a liar and stalker today.

[Laszlo_Hollyfeld]

16. The same way I did back then

I just don't give a rat's ass.

[no_hypocrisy]

19. She's toast. Her future is permanently based on her past. If she dies

at age 100, the papers will tie her to President Clinton.

I don't think she really took into consideration the damage she was doing to her future as well as Clinton's, not to forget the history of this country. She is reduced to being a historical spoiler.

[TheWizardOfMudd]

20. With my hands and lips

Okay. So I was fantasizing!!!!!!

[Zorra]

21. Hey, guys: If you were a young intern working for a Prez that was

one of the most attractive, powerful, intelligent and sexy women in the world, (and she was married), and you had the opportunity to fuck her, what, honestly, would you do?

[RobinA]

72. I'm a Female

and given the opportunity you describe (given a male Pres.) I'd'a done it in a New York minute. Ya better believe it. AND I'd have kept the dress. Although, what I would not have done would be tell anybody.

[Pepperbelly]

22. I am a well-wisher who notes that ...

her worst mistake was trusting that vicious bitch Tripp.

[Killarney]

23. I think she's a whore.

But I think that of any tramp that would do that with a married man.

However, I do think she's a step up from Jones or Flowers because I think she truly cared about him and didn't want to ruin his life.

But, she's still a homewrecking whore.

And I think Bill's a horrible husband, but a great president. Sometimes it makes me so mad that he couldn't keep his dick in his pants because his penis casts a large shadow over all his accomplishments. I watched him on Oprah yesterday and all the questions were sex, sex, sex. I'm like... this man accomplished so much! You have one hour to talk with an intelligent former President about anything and all you want to talk about is sex. It's a damn shame is what it is. He could have gone down in history for changing the world if he hadn't been saddled with all of this. :(

[Warren DeMontague]

47. Yeah, I've been irritated about the fact

that they've condensed the man's eight years as President and lifetime of accomplishments down to an event that probably wasn't, unless Monica was a completely ineffective fellatrix, more than 15 minutes, tops.

Yeah, he shouldn't have done it. Yeah, it was stupid. But it also says something about us, and the corporate-dominated media, that we still feel the need to relegate the man to dirty joke status. I mean, okay, yes he made a dumb move- but it never should have become the major issue that it did. The only two people who really had a legitimate gripe with what he did with his dick were Hillary and Chelsea. And more power to 'em, if they wanted to kick him in the ass and tell him he's a shitty husband and father. But that had zip zilch zero to do with the man as president. I wish it wouldn't have cast such a big shadow over his accomplishments, either, but is that really in proportion to the magnitude of the "crime"? Reagan broke the law, gave the finger to the constitution, sold arms to Iran, probably flooded the LA Basin with Crack, and managed to illegally finance a swath of rape, mutilation, murder and terror across Nicaragua so as to make that nation safe for ex-Somoza thugs and United Fruit. And the man is eulogized as a hero in big type, with Iran-Contra as a footnote. Whereas Clinton's blowjob is the big type, and the "hero" part is the footnote. That part of the story isn't Clinton's fault.

[Mandate My Ass]

50. huh huh...huh huh, he said "fellatrix"

Seriously you summed it up perfectly.

The only two people who really had a legitimate gripe with what he did with his dick were Hillary and Chelsea. :yourock:

Every time we have a conversation about what should have been a nine days wonder, at most, the RW wins. Six years and 70 million dollars later, this is one very dead horse whose ragged hide gets dragged out of mothballs and flayed and personally, it makes me :puke:

[Cleita]

75. I think Oprah and the other talk show mavens who have

concentrated their questions on the Lewinsky scandal have missed a historical, one time opportunity to really plumb the depths of the intellect of this man. Instead they have thrown this plum away for cheap ratings.

[porphyrian]

25. I Still Don't Give A Shit, And Don't Understand Everyone's Obsession -n/t

[Skittles]

26. she's a skank

nt

[0007]

60. 'She's a skunk' and what everever a "skank" is, Monica is that too!

[gatlingforme]

28. I do not care one way or the other, she should live her life lika

anybody else. I wish her the best.

[SarahB]

29. She handled it all with poor judgement.

A grown woman knows when to keep her mouth shut. Trusting someone like Linda Tripp (she had a history back then) was rather naive. I think naive summed her up pretty good back then. I don't know about now. I guess I feel sorry for her she's so stigmatized. Very few of us have "spotless" histories ourselves.

[LynneSin]

30. I respect the fact that she's tried to stay out of the limelight

I mean, sure, she published the required book but in general she hasn't tried to over capitlized on her norority. Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers and Linda Tripp are still trying to make money off of their association with Clinton. They are whores - all 3 of them.

[Yupster]

54. There's the book

then I saw her on an HBO special talking about Clinton and then she's hawking Monicaware on the internet.

I'd hardly call her out of the limelight. She's made money from her notoriety at least three ways I know about.

[hatrack]

31. I don't give a single solitary damn about her

Was there a certain way I was supposed to feel about her? Was an emotional investment mandatory? ML - Feh!

[Hubert Flottz]

32. She Sucks!

Always reminds me of a Mitch Ryder tune!('Devil With A Blue Dress On')

EDIT}Ken Starr was the real Ho in that story!

[Justice]

33. I Still Think She Was a Plant

I always thought she was a plant/partisan plant, that there was more to the story than we knew.

[imax2268]

38. I wonder

if she has trouble dating...?

I feel sorry for her...but then again...I don't...

[gpandas]

40. i feel nothing, just don't care n/t

[SheepyMcSheepster]

41. monica who...........?

i could care less about monica.

[bitchkitty]

42. She's boring. n/t

[dryan]

45. Thoughts on Monica

One of the great mysterys of life is why does a man who is married to an attractive, intelligent, "soul mate" type of woman run around with a dimwit. Clinton is not alone in this. Still trying to figure out Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles attraction but that's another story.

My husband says that Monica having grown up in Hollywood was willing to sell her soul to be involved with a celebrity--and the President of the United States is the ultimate celebrity. Unfortunately, she wasn't mature enough to know that the first rule of being a mistress of a powerful man is to keep your mouth shut. She also is guilty of picking the wrong friends. Linda Tripp was the total Iago in this story. She used Monica for her own agenda. Waiting in the wings was Starr and Company who were just waiting for a chance to prosecute the President.

[bitchkitty]

51. Not a mystery darling,

just an age old secret: blow jobs. Sorry for being crude, but there it is.

[RobinA]

73. Clinton Clearly

likes bimbos in the bedroom. He had the sense not to marry one. Adult Bill married Hillary, Teenaged Bill still wants to pick up bimboes in the El Camino.

To me, Prince Charles and Camilla make perfect sense. It was Charles/Diana that was clearly a set up. I just wish Chales would marry Camilla and live happily ever after. Do you realize how long-term that relationship has been?

[dryan]

76. I was speaking metaphorically.

[Ironpost]

43. probably shouldn't say this, but have to

I think Bill is a a hero for pulling that chunk of meat out of her troat. Coulda' choked on it.

[LTR]

46. She has some serious mental issues, was made a pawn by Clinton's enemies

Sure, she made a terrible mistake. But many women, young and old, are drawn that way to powerful, married men. Bill was very vulnerable at the time, and also made a terrible error in judgement.

I still don't feel the offense, as well as the perjury, were grounds for impeachment. Many other elected officials lied even worse to the country and the courts. Nixon, for one, got away with it thanks to a pardon.

This whole thing started as an investigation of a bad real estate deal (Whitewater) where the Clintons got snookered by James McDougal. They lost money on it, and the only one who broke the law there was Mr. McDougal. It mushroomed into questionable accusations by a vindictive golddigger (Paula Jones), a house cleaning of a corrupt government organization (travel office), Vince Foster's death (an obvious suicide of a man who became frustrated with the evils of federal politics), and many other things. The Starr investigation is one of the sleaziest witch hunts in American history, it was basically the practice of "throw everything against the wall and see if it sticks". They hit paydirt with a stupid blowjob, and milked it for all it's worth, not caring about who they destroyed along the way, even Ms. Lewinsky.

Ken Starr is a vile, corrupt, evil human being. And he was supported by even more vile, corrupt human beings like Richard Sciafe, Linda Tripp, Lucianne Goldberg, Newt Gingrich (who cheated on TWO wives), Bob Barr, and the rest of the pathetic lot. Eventually the tide will completely turn in Clinton's favor. The bastards in Congress who tried to bring him down are nobodys now due to their own hypocricy (bye bye Newt and Bob).

Monica Lewinsky is not a bad person. She was stupid in getting involved with Bill Clinton, and I'm sure she feels terrible about the whole ordeal.

Let's hope we never have another "Special Prosecutor Law". It may have served a purpose during the Watergate controversy, but it spiralled out of control and became as Clinton claimed "a fourth branch of government". This should not be. And I'm glad the law died a quick, quiet death. It brings a bad precedent, even if used for our current president. I'd hate to see an ongoing internal war within our government.

[funkybutt]

48. Did any of you see her special on HBO?

I watched it and was kind of surprised that she came off as kind of the normal ditsy rich chick you run across from time to time. I was also surprised that she seemed more intelligent than i had percieved her to be. She was sincere. I believe she was a lonely girl who pretty easily manipulated and used by the right. I forgive her...lets move on.

[Ripley]

49. Slut. No respect for her.

I mean who lifts her dress to reveal her thong to a President while he's givine a radio address? (I didn't read the Starr Porno manual...I just recall hearing this one instance from somwhere and it stuck.)

She's a gold-digger. She will try to use her infamy to suck money out of any enterprise she can. I heard Bill say yesterday that he hoped she could go on and have a full life outside of her notoriety. What? Bill, get a clue. She's gonna use this "President's Mistress" until the day she dies.

[Commendatori]

52. Pathetic skank who I'm really tired of, and

I don't even think she's cute.

[noonwitch]

55. I always felt bad for her because of the way Starr treated her

Threatening her with prosecution, denying her access to a lawyer when they questioned her, and god knows what other constitutional abuses. Not to mention the betrayal of her "friend" Linda Tripp.

I don't feel bad for her over the relationship with Clinton-she was an adult, she knew better.

[johnfunk]

56. She had serious maturity issues, was forced...

... to grow up in public (as Lou Reed would say), was a victim of a whore press, and I'd wager she's probably gotten it together better than the majority of women her age by now.

I am just hoping that someday, somewhere, Lewinsky and Kenneth Starr cross paths and she slaps his fat, sanctimonious face.

ON EDIT: Misspelled word in header.

[dr.strangelove]

57. I am angry but not at Monica

I'm still angry at President Clinton. While I believe he is likely the greatest world leader of the last 50 years, his lapse of judgment has left a dark mark on the Democratic policy, and it likely hurt Gore in the 2000 election. I forgive the President, only because he has shown regret and understands his error, but I am still angry that it took place.

[librechik]

58. I hate her. She could have done the right thing and said NO!

but she went after him. Skank. Brought the US low, and helped the Republicans ruin another Democrat president.

Sure, Clinton is responsible too. But Monica could have stopped it right off and she didn't. Stupid unpatriotic ho.

[Gruenemann]

59. she shoulda kept her mouth shut.

interpret that statement as you will.

[TrustingDog]

61. I thought she got a real raw deal...

all along.
Typical outcome tho - she ends up being the laughing stock pariah and Clinton can joke about it all now. But the real blame lies on that fuckwad Ken Starr and whoever sic'ed him on Clinton for this expensive nonstory. What a nest of vipers.

[Delano]

62. She's gone from chunky to damn near obese lately

I don't think much of slatterns who come on to married men, nor the ones who can't bring themselves to say "no" to a married man.

There are ffar worse people in the world, and Clinton's as guilty as she is, but he has achieved much in his life. All she ever achieved was nearly bringing down a president.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

63. Her 15 minutes of fame lasted way too long.

Thanks to Clinton, who should have told the press that his sex life is none of their goddamned business instead of trying to cover it up.

[edbermac]

64. Not a bad face...however...

Well, like Marlene Dietrich said to Orson Welles in Touch of Evil...

"You better lay off those candy bars...."

[texas is the reason]

65. i'd hit it!

well, maybe after :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[Catherine Vincent]

66. I don't really feel anything about her now but

I do wished she hadn't revealed everything her and big dog did. A classy woman never kiss and tell.

[gauguin57]

67. Go to Europe with Linda Tripp

So I recently openend a little newspaper in Middleburg, VA, and I see an ad for a fall tour to Europe, escorted by Linda Tripp and her fiancee, who run a Christmas shop together in Middleburg.

Doesn't THAT sound like a good time?

BITCH!

[oasis]

74. Tripp's relationship with Lucianne Goldberg has never been examined or

explained to my satisfaction.

There's definitely more there than the lame story they sold the public.

[qwertyMike]

68. One tidbit always intrigued me

Buried in the reports is a statement where she said. "In fact I had an orgasm before Bill did. I was first"

Think about it.

I admire here entrepreneurial spirit. Back home before she left she said she was donning her Presidentail kneepads and she was going to Washington to blow the Prez. And by god she did!. That's spirit!

Of course the Big Dog wasn't hard to conquer ;)

[JPJones]

69. She should have taken the fall

The Ken Star witchhunt was as immoral as Clinton's actions. If she had read Thoreau instead of Cosmo, she would have realized that the situation called for civil disobedience. Take the jail term to protect our Consitution.

[TexasSissy]

70. Stupid girl. Stupid stupid stupid. (But I blame Bill)

[mvd]

77. Well, I think she was suckered in by Tripp

I don't think she's too bright. Otherwise, Clinton was the elder so he has more responsibilty for what happened IMO. And she didn't force Partisan Prosecutor Starr to make up what looked like a porn report.

[donhakman]

79. I had a blind date with

[NoBushLite]

78. Troll alert?

Is this the real deal? Am I missing someting?

[Paragon]

80. Yeah, about 7000 less posts than me.

:eyes:

[guitar man]

81. I'd do her...............<nt>