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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:25 PM
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What Star Trek said about US torture in 1995
I was just watching an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine that Tivo grabbed for me ("Little Green Men, 1995"). The Ferrengis Quark, Nog, and Rom somehow go back in time and end up being the Roswell aliens.

Things go bad, and the US military wants answers. After 5 injections of sodium pentathol that don't work, the MP is about to start torturing Quark.

The dialog:

Rom: Don't you people have laws against this kind of thing?
MP: Not when it comes to national security.

sheesh. did they call it or what?
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:28 PM
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1. You just as nerdy as I am....
I like the part were their women must remain home neked...I was like right on bro you tell em :evilgrin:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:32 PM
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2. Loved that episode.
After being stuck in Roswell for a few days due to a broken down rig, I truly believe that Quark, Rom and Nog had some time to do a little gene spreading into the population.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:35 PM
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3. OMG!!!...........Prophetic or what!!!
U*n believable!!!!!!
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:37 PM
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4. Cool point
(sigh) I long for when Star Trek didn't suck like it does now.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:43 PM
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5. I've been thinking about DS9 a lot lately
and the episode arc where Starfleet essentially declares martial law on Earth due to the threat from the Dominion. There's a particularly poignant episode where Sisko's father, in a direct conflict with his son, refuses to have his blood tested to prove that he isn't a Founder.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:48 PM
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6. I Remember That Episode
And if you'll recall, in that very same episode, one of the Starfleet Admirals faked a Dominion "terrorist attack" that caused a blackout on Earth in an attempt to gain power and impose strict limitations on personal liberties.

Interesting...

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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:52 PM
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7. It's funny how that show has come to mirror life today.
That was such a great show. For me Star Trek died in 1999 when DS9 went off the air. Maybe it came back briefly in Nemesis but that is it.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:54 PM
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8. Deep space nine
has to be the best Star Trek Series, with some of the worst individual episodes.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:56 PM
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9. Which ones did you think were awful?
TNG and DS9 were both great but they each had a couple of episodes that were bad.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 10:02 PM
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10. The original Star Trek was "fascinating"
because almost every episode was a metaphor for current social issues.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 10:09 PM
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11. my FAVORITE Quark quote:
You know, Commander, I think I've figured out why humans don't like Ferengi. The way I see it, humans used to be a lot like Ferengi: greedy, acquisitive, interested only in profit. We're a constant reminder of a part of your past you'd like to forget. But you're overlooking something. Humans used to be a lot worse than the Ferengi. Slavery, concentration camps, interstellar wars - we have nothing in our past that approaches that kind of barbarism. You see? We're nothing like you. We're better.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 10:12 PM
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12. Ok...we need perspective here
There is no "bad" Star Trek...just less good!!! ;-)
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:18 PM
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13. Ha! but Voyager
asymptopically approached 'bad' at an ever accelerating rate. Enterprise skirts the whole good/bad issue altogether by running a parallel course to both curves, although right up to the very end of this season I thought that perhaps they might just be operating in a space with a positive curvature where at some imaginary point they might run tangentially to good. However, at that last moment they veered off into a right-angle dimension of total suckiness.
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