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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:14 AM
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A coworker of mine just said Michael Moore is full of delusional facts
and should be shot

Guess what - he hasn't seen the movie!
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DBtv Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:16 AM
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1. Self delusion is the greatest delusion.
The time of reckoning for morans is at hand.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:16 AM
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2. It's either 'delusional' or a 'fact'...
...but it can't be both.

- Never debate with the mentally ill.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:22 AM
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9. yes, that's proof that the person is an idiot
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:16 AM
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3. i hear that all the time
people are so ready to jump to conclusions based on nothing. stupid people.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:17 AM
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4. Send him this pic for me, would ya?
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:11 AM
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19. You do realize you have misspelled the word "MORONS" . . .
right? I noticed other posters spell morons as "morans" Is there a reason they do this that I am missing?

Not trying to be anal about it but just wondering why everyone misspells "MORONS?" :think:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:14 AM
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21. It's a play on that photo in the post
The guy holding the sign that says, "Get a brain! Morans!!", he's the one who couldn't spell "moron," and he was at a pro-war demonstration, ergo, a freeper/idiot. "Moran" has been a long-standing joke at DU--not a spelling error. It refers to the fact that freepers are too stupid to even spell "moron" correctly.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:17 AM
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5. There is a Hindu word, I believe it is "avidya"
or something like that. It means "not wanting to know." Avidya comes into play when the truth threatens to disrupt cherished illusions.

I would invite such a person to see the movie, as my treat, and then to discuss the alleged "delusional facts."

If he or she says no, then that person's opinion carries absolutely no weight, for it is based on actively chosen ignorance.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:19 AM
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6. then Avidya means the same as "cognitive dissonance"
cool :)

A new word to add to my vocab! Thanks!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:20 AM
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7. I like that concept
"delusional facts".
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:21 AM
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8. that must be from one of the radio shows, my con cow-orkers
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 08:22 AM by lectrobyte
were having a field day giving me grief over all the "made up" stuff supposedly in F911 (they hadn't seen, I haven't either, yet). I said, what, upset about getting reminded about * flying Osama's relatives out of the country (that's all I remembered from the trailer).
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:27 AM
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10. Delusional Facts: The Story of the Bush Administration
I see a best seller on the horizon!

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I there are untruths in Moore's film, why
isn't anyone threatening him with legal action instead of just attacking him
and trying to prevent his film from being seen?
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:27 AM
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11. Could he have seen
the movie already or is he just a KNEE JERK apologist?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:29 AM
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12. Just say this: YOU CAN"T HANDLE DELUSIONAL FACTS!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:32 AM
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14. ROFL nt
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:30 AM
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13. just talk to him
like our wonderful VP talked to Leary yesterday.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:35 AM
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15. Delusional facts trump delusional opinions
Which is pretty much the stuff of the BFEE.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:37 AM
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16. "Facts are stupid things" - the Great Communicator
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 08:40 AM
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17. "Those are just facts honey. You can use facts to prove anything ..
you want." Homer Simpson
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:06 AM
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18. Well that is a perfect example of an
oxymoron. Delusional facts. Wonder if it was Hannity, Boortz, etc., who came up with that one?

I know she had to get it from one of their talking heads because these people cannot make a comment using their own brains. Every time I watch Washington Journal, the ones that call in hollering at the hosts are ALWAYS Republicants, and they are repeating what one of their talking heads said the day before, or crying over how unfair the hosts are . . . they let the dems talk longer, they don't cut off the dems, they are obviously liberal, etc., etc.

I don't know how these people on Washington Journal keep their cool with these idiots. They must get paid really well to sit there.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:14 AM
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20. Your co-worker hasn't quite grasped the meaning of the word delusional
has he?...It goes without saying the word fact escapes him.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:17 AM
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22. I'm sorry you have to work with stupid people. - n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:19 AM
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23. Paula Zahn last night...
"But, it's so humiliating to the President..." in referring to a clip where Bush talks tough on terror and turns around and says, "... now watch this drive!" (They had one two folks to debate the movie - some schlub from Citizens United and some Democratic media guy) The Citizens United guy, I think, said he had not seen the movie.

My thought was, sure it's humiliating... but, it is Bush in his own words. He is shooting himself in the foot. How is that wrong? Would Clinton have done something as publicly tactless as that? Heck, I think even Bush 41 would have known better.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:20 AM
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24. Ask him if he knows who James R Bath is?
Odds are, he'll say, "No." Then you give him the lowdown on Bush's Texas ANG buddy who went on to become the US business agent for the bin Mahfouz and bin Laden clans. Then tell him Bath sank the Saudi's money in Bush's HARKEN Energy. And then you might add that if he doesn't believe you, he can GOOGLE the names and terms and find out for himself. Or he can go see "Fahrenheit 9/11."
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:20 AM
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25. ****HE ALSO REFUSES TO SEE IT***********
Won't see any of his films. Says Moore would be killed if he lived in any other country and is lucky to live in the US. This is surprising from such a mild mannered guy. I'm shocked!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:30 AM
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26. According to Dick Clarke's testimony before the 9/11 Commission...
Michael Moore is absolutely correct in saying the bin Laden family and the Saudis were flown out while the embargo was still in effect. Here is his testimony taken from the archives of the Commission:

MR. KEAN: Senator Gorton?

MR. GORTON: One more question on that subject. When the approvals were finally made, and when the flight left, was the flight embargo still in effect or were we flying -- or was that over? We were flying once again?

MR. CLARKE: No, sir. No, Senator. The reason that a decision was needed was because the flight embargo -- the grounding was still in effect.

Here is the link for those who wish to check it out. Please use this testimony to refute the only argument that the right wingers seem to have re Moore's movie and it's accuracy.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing8/9-11Commission_Hearing_2004-03-24.htm#clarke

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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:21 AM
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27. Flights

Moore was on the Daily Show last night and I think I heard him say that the Saudi's were flown around on smaller planes to get to one place and as soon as the flight ban was lifted they flew out of the U.S. Did I hear that correctly all you Jon Stewart fans?

A Jon Stewart fan! That guy is so funny. He was hilarious interviewing Kevin Kline. Oops, I digress.

Skarbrowe
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:48 AM
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28. Better deluded by truth than pacified by lies
Hope you don't work in a hospital or a nuclear plant. With co-workers like that...
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