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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:15 AM
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Michael Medved trashing FH 9/11 on CNN NOW
Ugh
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:16 AM
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1. Fuck CNN
I haven't watched that shit intentionally in nearly 5 years now.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:21 AM
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11. its been three months for me
I am so glad that Air America is around...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:22 AM
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12. its been three months for me
I am so glad that Air America is around...
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:17 AM
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2. "they CAN'T all be TRUE"
why not you RW POS? why not???
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:17 AM
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3. Nobody gives a crap what he thinks n/t
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 10:17 AM by new_beawr
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:24 AM
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didn't know his politics
I've never paid any attention to Medved - I read movie reviews by Ebert if I bother to read them at all before seeing a movie.

I'm glad Michael Moore embraced all the negative publicity on the Daily Show last night. I think he is right that it will help the film - up to a point. I live in a small town in Alabama, which gives me, um, access, to more of the people who really NEED to see this movie than I might have if I still lived in DC, as I did a few years ago. I think the jury is still out as to whether all the negative publicity will galvanize this large part of the American population to go see FH 9/11.

That said, I'm going to do all I can to get folks to the theaters in the next few weeks - I'm still an optimist!
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:30 AM
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17. Good luck! Great that its playing there....n/t
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:45 AM
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20. Not playing here...
...but it is playing 45 miles away, so we are making the trek tonight. If it was playing here, I'd have a lot more folks (fence-sitters) there for opening weekend, but I can only work with the hand I'm dealt!

I hope all of us can take seriously the challenge to take someone to the movie that wouldn't have gone otherwise. I know it is a hell of a lot more convenient and fun to go with like-minded friends, but that doesn't do any more than provide a great night out.

People respond to other people, period. This movie won't change anyone's mind about Bush unless they actually see it. And I think we are kidding ourselves if we think that the average American will be driven to see this film by its publicity, positive or negative. Most fence-sitters (not to mention Republicans) will only go if they are asked by someone they know and trust.

It is easy to be optimistic about swinging folks to our side if you live and work among other activists. I've been there. To us, these issues are so clear. But that isn't the reality that the vast majority of Americans live in. Most are far more concerned about the cost of day care or whether or not they'll ever be able to own their own home (or any number of other things that directly impact them on a daily basis) than national politics. Most can't see the very real connection between the actions of the administration and these daily concerns, because it isn't Bush calling because the rent is late or behind the counter at the gas station.

We have to reach out to those who need this movie, rather than sit back and revel in how superior we all are to the rest of the sheep. Otherwise, that self-congratulation will be cold comfort in November.

Sorry for the rant.
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jdsmith Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:09 AM
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30. After being marginally cool for a bit, Medved went way crazy-ass right
At first, he and his brother were the authors of a couple of Movies-that-Suck books (_The Golden Turkey Awards_) that were pretty funny when you pulled them off the same shelves as your _National Lampoon_ books. But he found out how to cash in VERY fast.

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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:18 AM
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4. What????
Michael Medved??? Attacking F 9/11?????

Noooooo. Unbelievable. Absolutely astounding. I'm in shock. Never thought I'd live to see the day.

Sorry, just kidding you a little. Could anyone have thought Medved would do otherwise? ;)
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:23 AM
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14. Next thing you know, Jonah Goldberg will be slamming it!!
:evilgrin:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:46 AM
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21. ***snarf***
Good one!
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:57 AM
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25. Michelle Malkin didn't like it either!
In fact, in an article pining for the good old days of "Yankee Doodle Dandy" and "Sergeant York", she called it a "schlockumentary"!

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Slashingly witty!!
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:18 AM
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5. Damn Michael is getting the Mother of All
Free Publicity campaigns!\

When the historians look back on this, they will perhaps call this Rove's darkest hour, when his spin and slash strategy turned on him with a vengence...
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:24 AM
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15. I am of the belief that in 60 years from now, my great grandchildren
will watch this film as a part of History Class.

If the chimp gets 4 more years, my great grand kids will watch this film and say to themselves, "How did he get re-(s)elected?"

History will not look kindly on this administration. They will make Nixon's administration look like child's play.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:06 AM
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27. they will wonder how
the clearly incompetent, unqualified piece of shit ever became "president"
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:19 AM
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33. I wonder how this incompetent, unqualified, piece of shit
ever became "president". It has been 3+ years and I still don't know what that dumbass is doing in the oval office! :)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 05:15 PM
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38. you don't know the half of it
that bastard was my governor for years - imagine how Texas Dems feel. :o
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:18 AM
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6. the kagan whore
"it shouldn't have a POV"

could she be any DUMBER???
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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:21 AM
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10. I thought she played it just right--
especially with the "like the vice-president?" comment.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:18 AM
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7. Haha! He's trying to make a point about the f-word being in there
and she says "Like the vice president."

CLASSIC!
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:03 PM
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37. What was his point about the word?
I can't even imagine what kind idiotic point he tried to make.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 05:27 PM
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40. using the f word turned the movie from a documentary into a puff piece
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:18 AM
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8. Anti-military...
...my ass! I am going to see the film tonight with two people who have both served years in the Navy. I highly doubt they will leave angry with Michael Moore...
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:19 AM
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9. Medved is a paid for Bush whore
This fuck wad fellates Bush with such abandon that it goes beyond simple whoredom - it may be a psychosis...
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:20 PM
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46. you mean...
.. felches.

Nothing cracks me up more than when a media whore complains about "bias". The hypocrisy is beyond belief.

I like all this negative brouhaha. These people assume the American public is infinitely stupid, when in fact they are mostly not paying attention.

I especially like it when the rah-rah the economy. See, anyone out there that is in business or knows how things are really going KNOWS this crap about jobs and growth is all happy-talk lies.

The more they say things that folks know is bullshit, the farther their credibility sinks. It won't have to sink much lower before nobody believes a word they say.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:22 AM
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13. Medved is a rotten critic
Just where are this whiny little freeper bastard's 'reviews' published.

And no, his horrible Bush ass-kissing, 'virtuous', 'wholesome' radio show on Salem doesn't count.

I've heard his show before, and he is a major POS hypocrite.
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:25 AM
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16. who's this douche and why should I care what he says?
:eyes:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:11 AM
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31. Michael Medved used to be a movie critic, then he became a
Michael Medved used to be a movie critic, then he became a guest-host for "Rush Limbaugh," and now he has his own rightwing radio show.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:38 AM
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18. It wasn't only him
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 10:39 AM by DemonFighterLives
Kagan had an interview with Michael. And another movie critc. I have not seen a kind review of the film, except here. I guess the whore media is in full force. I'm going tonight.
I felt moved to write CNN. Not the best letter, but what do you DU'ers think.
Quote:
Why are all the sappy reviews of Fahrenheit 9/11 so anti- Moore? That is the whole problem that moore is attempting to correct. Mindless adoration by the media of the Bush Administration. Let's investigate 9/11 and get on with life. I have been watching CNN for years, but have about had it. I could just as well watch that goofy Fox station. Ask some questions of this corrupt administration and quit bashing Moore.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:42 AM
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19. Some day the rest of Medved's body will be sucked through
that huge pucker in his butt and he will disappear completely.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:47 AM
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22. Medved wouldn't know a "fact" if one jumped up and pissed on his head...
I have long watched this media hack with horror and fascination. He is one of the most truly biased and idiotic of the reich-wingers. That people still take him seriously is no end of wonderment to me.
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prowler Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:16 PM
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45. Medved
He's good at half truths, one of the best i've seen as far as snake propoganda. He has successfuly made all the accusations of giving Saddam weapons into old wives tales (at least among his fans), but only because he isolates it to the topic of strictly "weapons". He overlooks dual use technology and loans. He admits we helped Saddam, but only in context of the threat of Iran, which he likens to us aiding Russia during WWII. But, when Saddam gruesomely gassed the kurds, when congress wanted punitive measures against Iraq and Bush was against it, it was way after the threat of Iran.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:57 AM
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23. kick
kick
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Innoma Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:57 AM
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24. Medved is a hack....
Ol' Medved has been unwatchable for years, as far as I'm concerned -- he's exactly one of those junket-going hacks that get paid to come up with exciting snippets like "an exciting roller coaster ride of a movie!" that always seems to get attached to films that require an IQ of about 10 to appreciate. And, if you happen to watch him speaking, he exhibits that kind of breathless, false enthusiasm that you just know is the kind of thing the film backers are paying for.

I find it interesting that, last time I looked today, the Yahoo database of critics reviews pegs the film at around an A- (when I had been expecting it to come in around B- or C+; the user reviews so far have been polarized at C+, with the films fans rating it an A+ and its detractors rating it an F -- pretty much what you'd expect from the film at this point in terms of user reviews, I think).

I'll be seeing the film in a few hours, and I'm hoping it will be good and incendiary. If it isn't, however, I'll be the first one to say the emperor has no clothes, but somehow I don't expect that will be the case.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:08 AM
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28. He's Also As Dumb As A Stump
The Professor
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:08 AM
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29. HOWDY INNOMA
welcome to the DU!!! :hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:57 PM
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36. Hi Innoma!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:01 AM
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26. Film critics aren't all liberal.
I doubt CNN had a balanced critic on who liked the film.

F CNN....


CNN-free and loving it.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:11 AM
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32. If I were in charge, I would SHUT DOWN CNN and place all.....
of it's workers in GITMO!!!

No more nice playing, the ONLY way to fight this crap is to CRACK THEIR BALLS!!!

:grr:

:argh:

Give the "CNN Solute": "Heil Bushler"
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Still_Loves_John Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 05:51 PM
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44. I love the idea that, because CNN allows a conservative to appear on air
they are suddenly a pawn of the right wing attack machine.

Michael Medved was on as a known conservative giving his opinion. It was not presented like it was the word of god.

I know that there are plenty of legitimate examples of bias in the media, but when you start complaining about something like this, you make the entire case look weak.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:23 AM
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34. According to his website he gets 1.8 million listeners in 124 markets.
Franken and Rhodes are getting 6-8 Million listeners in 20+ markets and the internet! Who has more of an influence???

We all know the answer.

Also, Medved was the one justifying the Anti-Semetic Passion of the Christ.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:27 AM
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35. He is a RABID arch-conservative. I hope CNN disclosed that.
Medved was deep in the pockets of the right-wing years ago, when he was doing Sneak Previews with Jeffrey Lyons.

Spy Magazine blew the lid of this back in 1993.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 05:26 PM
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39. HA!!!! you BEAT me on the Spy thing
I subscribed then, and they had articles about what a big, gaping, gigantic AHole he was back then.

a real prick on the set.....everybody HATED his ass

and, one of my oldest friends is Lyons' wife's brother in law, if that computes

I asked him about that at the time, and he said Lyons REALLY really hated him, and the Spy article was, if anything, too easy on him

I still have the magazine someplace, but can never find the articles in there I want....like the one with Schwarzenegger's ween. He got really pissed about that article

may have to spend a few days rereading back issues; for awhile it was just about the best magazine around. a big kudos to kurt anderson, etal.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 05:29 PM
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41. Of course! Is Michael Medved CNN's new resident film critic?
that would make perfect sense!!
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 05:34 PM
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42. ...Big deal...all the right hacks will hate it!
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 05:50 PM
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43. "Thanks to this movie, everytime Bush speaks..."
"I no longer become sexually aroused. Two thumbs down. Way down." - anonymous right wing mouthpiece.
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