Are Democrats REALLY upset about Cheney saying 'fuck'?

[malachibk]

I sure hope not. People swear, for fuck's sake. Dems on the hill should give it a Fucking try! Shake things the FUCK UP!

Can you imagine how popular CSPAN would be if politicians allowed themselves to speak like everyone else? Awesome. Truly awesome.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

1. No, just upset at the hypocrisy of the Silent RWingers.

After all, isn't CSPAN now liable for 'pornographic words' being on the airwaves?

Okay for Cheney, but not for ShockJocks?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[Booster]

3. BINGO!!!!!

What's good for Stern is good for Cheney. At least Stern doesn't pretend to be something else, like Cheney pretends to be compassionate. HA!

[lightbulb]

15. most of the excitement seems to be

about the implications of Cheney's potty-mouth slip; the dude is losing his cool under pressure.

[Eloriel]

44. There's that, plus the hypocrisy, but what upsets me is

Who the hell does he think he is saying that to Leahy? What would happen in the reverse? Leahy and every other Dem Senator deserves as much respect as those bastards expect for themselves. I don't care if he's Veep, that doesen't give him the right to speak that way to a Democratic Senator, no matter what.

And what ticks me off even more, he's not the least bit remorseful or even chagrined. DAMN him. Damn him to hell.

[RetroLounge]

45. "he's not the least bit remorseful "

The stupid little fuck went on Faux news and laughed about it.

HE LAUGHED ABOUT IT!

said Leahy deserved it...

RL

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

29. NOW who is "wild eyed" (and foul mouthed!) ??? <n/t>

[TexasSissy]

4. That's it. They pretend to be moral and religious, and pass a bill

about obsenity on the airwaves, and then here is one of their leaders swearing in public. Hypocritical.

Dems, on the other hand, while not proponents of vulgar language, don't put themselves out as being above it.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

27. Let's not forget GWB's "A55Hole ." into an open mike circa 2000 <n/t>.

[TexasSissy]

35. Ohhh. I don't remember that.

[bossfish]

36. Described NYT's Adam Clymer...

as a "major league asshole."

[SudieJD]

52. Hypocrit, Hypocrit, Hypocrit!

Sudie in MN

[StopThief]

39. I don't believe it was aired. . . .

on CSPAN.

[graham67]

2. Nope....

Profanity doesn't bother me. I am LMFAO because this actually seems to be news.

[malachibk]

Glad to hear it.

Fuck.

[oasis]

5. I'm upset because the "adults" are supposed to be "in charge".

[prodigal_green]

6. Repug Wardrobe Malfunction eom

[number6]

61. Republicans expose a boob

everytime they put Bush on ....

[Vickers]

7. No, I'm upset that he is a liar and a cheat

His cussing is of no consequence to me (unless it is directed to me).

[Skittles]

8. no, we are upset with the HYPOCRISY

conservatives constantly tell us how MORAL they are compared to us PAGAN DEMOCRATS.

[malachibk]

11. Then why aren't Dems on TV saying that?

[Skittles]

17. because they are SPINELESS ASSHOLES

nt

[ninkasi]

49. Exactly

They have one set of standards for themselves, and a different one for everybody else. I can only imagine their bellows of outrage if Al Gore had said this to a Republican senator. They would still be obsessing over it.

They are vicious, cowardly, sniveling, brain-rotted hypocrites, who are selling out the citizens of this country to further enrich themselves. It's time to stop taking this treatment, and fight back.

[stanwyck]

9. But, what are we going

to tell the children? Isn't that what we heard about Clinton's blowjob? Now, we have to explain the VP's angry retort to the children. Oh, wait. Most of the children already know that word and use it often. Never mind.

[buycitgo]

10. didn't you hear the pug hierarchy DEMANDED an apology from Kerry

when he was quoted in Rolling Stone for saying something like he couldn't believe how badly the pugs "had fucked things up?"

that's the point of all the shock and awe at the president's (no misprint there, btw) outburst

and, of course, there's always the honor and dignity BS being restored

remember that?


will somebody do a dance mix of major league asshole and an impressions of Cheney's saying "go fuck yourself?"

Harry Shearer, are you out there?

[Warren DeMontague]

22. Yes, And...

You don't have to go very far to find t-shirts that say
"John Kerry? No F-in' Way!" because, obviously, a man who uses that kind of language isn't fit for president.. (of course, dubya's been known to swear like an illiterate sailor, himself, but we won't worry about that)

My real problem with Cheney, however, isn't so much that he said "Fuck", it's that he is a Fuck.

[asthmaticeog]

12. It's not the word itself.

It didn't bother me when John Kerry described the war on terror as having been "fucked up." What bothers me is the open contempt, disregard for decorum and direct insult of openly saying "go fuck yourself" to a person who basically amounts to a co-worker on the floor of the Senate. No restraint, no respect, no shame. Had Kerry said "go fuck yourself" to someone on the floor of the Senate all those months ago, that would have indeed bothered me. Had Cheney described, say, a policy as "fucked up," no, not really so much at all.

[Longhorn]

21. My sentiments exactly! n/t

[Beloved Citizen]

13. Fuck yeah!

I'm fucking livid!

Fat fucking hypocrite.

[maxsolomon]

14. fuck, no one is 'upset'. its fucking schadenfrede time!

i think we're all fucking enjoying it.

i fucking know i fucking am. fuck, my fucking MOM will enjoy the fuck out of it.

[West Coast Democrat]

16. Yes, people swear. But it's inappropriate for any V.P. to behave that way

when addressing a member of Congress.

[KayLaw]

23. Right

I think swearing in such a situation shows disrespect for the American government. There are some places I would never swear out of respect for the institution.

[laylah]

41. While on the Senate floor

no less...oh, no foul by a technicality, right? :shrug: :crazy:

Jenn

[Moloch]

18. I am not offended by the word

What offends me, is that when John Kerry said fuck in an interview with rolling stone the whitehouse demanded an apology and said such language was "unbecoming of a presidential candidate"

[DeepModem Mom]

19. A worthless snake like Cheney said it to a gentleman...

Patrick Leahy, on the floor of the Senate. That disgusts me.

[Democat]

20. Payback is a bitch - they made their bed

If the right wing doesn't like being held to their own bullshit standard, too bad. Democrats should attack them over this relentlessly.

[Pepperbelly]

24. i'm just glad it's causing him embarrassment and consternation. nt

[TahitiNut]

25. The real story (imho) isn't the 'fuck' ...

... but is the total and absolute disdain that fucking bastard has for anyone outside of his own corrupt cabal. This is NOT a "public servant" or someone willing to "cooperate" with others in a diverse, multicultural nation. This is a myopic, obsessive autocrat who tolerates no dissent or opposition. "Go fuck yourself" is the root and source of his entire ideology. Inimical to democracy, it's the articulation of his entire life philosophy: "Fuck you! I got mine!" The first question he ever contemplates is: "What's in it for me?" He's a corrupt, greedy, self-centered, sociopathic sleaze-bag - and that's a slander to sleaze-bags.

[ContinentalOp]

47. Ha ha!

Great post TahitiNut!

[Eloriel]

50. Egggsackly

And well said.

[xxqqqzme]

26. Fuckin' A

the rat bastard's arrogance and contempt 4 anyone not like him is fucking appalling!

[Shakespeare]

28. No--mostly disturbed by the unprovoked rage at Leahy.

By all accounts, he ripped into Leahy unprovoked--that's a serious anger problem, if you ask me.

As for the profanity--I'm only bothered by the hypocrisy of those on the rightwing who are eating it up.

[TahitiNut]

31. It was provoked every bit as much as anyone provokes ...

... a hyena feasting on the carcass of roadkill by walking within biting range. Cheney is a fat, greedy jackal in the company of a pack of sycophantic jackals. Leahy inadvertently interrupted the fur-raking and ass-licking ritual and this sociopathic carrion-eater snarled.

[El Supremo]

30. I'm upset because...

by saying that word in public in the Senate chamber, Cheney has devalued the word.

When I was younger it was a special word appropriate only for special occasions. Nowadays every time I pass by some punks, er, I mean kids on the street, they are using that word in every sentence. Now with the Vice President saying it, we might as well let the FCC remove it from their list of forbidden words. What a pity!

[Cocoa]

32. same as with Ryan

we don't care about this shit, we're loving it, the Republicans being exposed yet AGAIN as hypocrites.

[gratuitous]

33. Why isn't this question asked of the mock indignation on the right?

Were Republicans REALLY upset about Kerry saying "fuck" in a Rolling Stone interview? Answer: We don't know, because no one asked the question. They were too busy providing megaphone service for the poor, offended Republicans!

[southpaw]

34. If it were Kerry who said it, would the neo-cons give him a pass?

FUCK NO!!! They'd fuckin' crucify him and you all know it. They will exploit things like this to the fullest to paint the opposition as morally bankrupt libertines...

The left needs to use this slip to point out the hypocrisy of these self proclaimed champions of morality.

[slutticus]

37. It's not about that, It's the hypocrisy that gets me n/t

[Snazzy]

54. around here that's "hyp-fucking-ocrisy"

Un-befucking-believable. (<<<--- doesn't really make much sense, but always liked that).

Is there a tape? Did the SS hold Leahy back? (That's unfair).

Somebody should give Mr. Dick The Lenny Bruce Lifetime Achievement Medal--get Carlin or Stern. None of them played the Senate. Just don't put it too close to that artificial heart, don't want radio interference in the event the duty doc needs to phone in a little Cheney uptick.

Maybe we can just skip to the end of the empire now, get into those kung-foo fighting parliamentary battles that seem so popular in third world not-ready-for-prime-time democracies (recently failed superpowers too!).

Yeah, no respect.

[meow mix]

38. i hope his rage doesnt over-tax his weakened heart

he might have heart failure if he keeps it up!!!! woooooot!

[Bake]

40. It's more than just the hypocrisy (although there's plenty of THAT!)

This is the attitude that BushCo. exhibits toward ANYONE AND EVERYONE who dares to disagree, dares to question, or dares to criticize: GO FUCK YOURSELF. Basically, this is their attitude to the rest of America: GO FUCK YOURSELVES.

Is it the language? No, I curse like a fuckin' sailor myself. But I have the good sense and decorum (as a lawyer) not to do it in the courtroom! Thus, it becomes a matter of PISS-POOR JUDGMENT!

I think Wes Clark is right: this is a sign of the STRESS that is tightening inexorably in the White House. They're fucking CRACKING UP. Personally, I hope Crashcart's ticker just up and fucking QUITS from the stress -- says fuck it, we're outta here.

The party headed up by a "uniter not a divider" MY BIG ENTIRE ASS!!! This country has only become more polarized than ever. Thanks, Chimp.

By the way, Dick: GO FUCK YOURSELF!

Bake

[ibegurpard]

42. And, apparently, profanity is prohibited on the senate floor

by the senate's own rules.

[Bake]

43. But it's OK, because the Senate technically wasn't in session!

So technically, Unca Dick didn't break the rules. What legalistic gymnastics these fuckers go through to justify themselves! Kinda like "what the definition of 'is' is" maybe, eh, Pukes?? I guess I'm a traitor for pointing out blatant hypocrisy. And of course, anybody who would vote against our "Dear Leader" must be a traitor, so we don't have to count their votes.

By the way, Big Time Dickhead: GO FUCK YOURSELF.

Bake

[LoZoccolo]

46. I'm upset that they would call us "wild-eyed"...

...for daring to criticize the former governor when, as his campaign has declared, it is not the time for pessimism or whatever, while Mr. Cheney's doing this.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

48. It's like the pro-war chickenhawks begging us to "Support Our Troops"

You know, the ones they shipped out to kill and die in our name. The poor slobs who have to risk their lives on orders from the likes of Bush & Cheney & Rumsfeld who talk so glibly about "courage" and "sacrifice", who've never shown any courage or sacrificed anything in the whole of their worthless lives.

The guys who piously talk of "morals" and "family values" and laugh it up over executions and joke about "hazing" of prisoners between bouts of visiting racist churches and invoking God to justify their coked up fratboy behavior.

I'm not upset about the use of the word "fuck" but I sure as hell am pissed off about the two-faced little moral midgets who use it against a man whose socks they aren't fit to wash.

[St. Jarvitude]

51. It's not that he said "fuck"

It's that he used "fuck" to deliberately insult a United States Senator. Senate members are among the most esteemed and respected members of the United States government (at least the ones on our side are :)). And, oh yeah, he said it on the Senate floor, during an official Senate event.

It's not that he said "fuck." If he had said "These fucking pretzels are making me thirsty!" then no one should have a problem with it. When he says "go fuck yourself" to a U.S Senator (or to anyone), then he's crossed the line.

The most important thing, however, as many have already pointed out, is the hypocrisy from the RWers. Why are they not "outraged" as they were when Howard Stern said bad things about Our Fearless Leader? Or when Janet Jackson's breast (I'm sure they giggle when they see that word. Wait, even more amusing for them: boobie) popped out?

[Piperay]

53. YES because it is the hypocrisy

and it really does upset me because of that reason. They put themselves on a moral pedestal and 'wave' Clinton and Monica at us and say they are going to bring back 'morality' and then they are completely immoral in EVERYTHING they do and say. :wtf:

As far as the language itself is concerned I don't care because I talk as filthy as anyone but I don't pretend to be more moral either.

[VOX]

55. It's not the word "fuck," it's the goddamned hypocracy!!!!!!

Repugs set themselves up as cool, calm, closer-to-God, holier-than-thou, etc. etc.

But it's totally obvious that their hearts are utterly full of hate and contempt.

[Rick in Maryland]

56. It didn't take them long to lose the warm glow from Reagan's dea

You have the Bush campaign plastering Hitler on their official website and you have Cheney dropping the F-bomb on the Senate floor. He then actually says later that he was glad he told Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont to go f--- himself. He said that it needed to be said. Huh?

It's like Reagan died for nothing. Idiots.

[wickerwoman]

57. This is the US Senate not Ricky Lake.

Is a little decorum too much to ask for among men and women capable of starting a nuclear war? What's next "bitch-slappin' congress" "talk to the hand diplomacy"?

Not in any country I want to live in.

[kungfugrip]

58. Joe Fucking Scarborough had a whole fucking show

about John Fucking Kerry was fucking unfit to be the fucking president because he said the fucking F-BOMB.

There will be nary a fucking peep about Dick Fucking Cheney attacking someone fucking personally. What fucking major league assholes.

Big Time!

[number6]

59. I'm f*cking out raged ....

:evilgrin: fine em like Howie Stern ...

[chookie]

60. Maybe I'm old fashioned

But I have different standards for members of the government conducting business in the Congress than I do for, the Daily Show.

I hold them to respect the civilized standards of the Congress and public life and use polite speech. To be unable to do so in such a forum is a very poor reflection on those who violate the standards of those hallowed institutions.

Don't know about you guys, but the fucking **Congress of the United States** still **MEANS** something to me -- it is one of the checks against absolute power in our nation, you may recall -- and I expect those who have the HONOR of representing their country in its fucking hallowed halls should show RESPECT for it -- and polite speech is a sign of respect for it.

Dick Cheney can say what he wants in private -- but using proscribed language in our CONGRESS while addressing a member of that Congress reflects his disrespect for it -- and by inference, disrespect for our country and its Constitution.

And isn't that one of the things about this administration -- their disrespect for and arrogance towards those they share power with?

People -- this is a LOT more serious than just a cussword we all use casually around here -- it is yet another manifestation of the seizure of power by the executive branch. What's next -- maybe Cheney will piss on Ted Kennedy. Male chimpanzees, in similar battles of dominance, will shit in their hands and hurl it at their opponent -- will that get your attention? Or maybe Cheney should cane someone....

I say -- let the Senate conduct itself like the Senate, and not the Jerry Springer show.

I agree with someone on another thread that this may well be a signal that anything goes from now on.... And you thought everything was ALREADY "everything goes"! But you ain't seen nothing yet!! Prepare to be amazed, my friends!

[Lindacooks]

62. It's the hypocrisy

[donhakman]

63. ';l