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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:03 AM
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Movie Goer Assaulted at Fahrenheit 9/11 Showing
How much do you want to bet that this was a freeper set up? :eyes:

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1970759&nav=168XODtA

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After viewing the film, he was greeted outside the theatre by members of the Las Vegas MoveOn.org.

The group was handing out leaflets on the importance of the film. Streeter voiced his view on the movie, "I made the comment, apples and oranges -- Kerry, Bush -- one's no better than the other. You really ain't got much of a choice. This guy comes up to me and says, 'Oh yeah?' " Streeter was then spat on by the same man.

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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:04 AM
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1. well . . .
you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

i guess their thuggery is begetting thuggery.

kinda sucks to get repaid in like coin.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:06 AM
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6. As someone said here yesterday, the first shots of a new Civil War
have been fired this week.

Cheney's nastiness toward Patrick Leahey and Fahrenheit 9/11.
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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:11 AM
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11. Cheney ought to be driving a truck for Halliburton...

...In Iraq

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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:21 AM
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16. Jesus H. Christ!
Move-on.org operatives assaulted someone had already attended the movie because the guy was ambivilent?! I fully expected the article to show how Freepers-en-masse mugged one of us, not that democratic operatives trying to build support are mugging folks on the fence.

They guy had a right to the police; I would. When I saw the film last night, everything was pretty cool...no hecklers (in downtown D.C.) but no signs anything approaching violence was in the air. Instead of denying or making excuses, mabe DUers should be advocating restraint and FREE SPEECH. We can and will win on merits, we don't need to be mugging people. Violence just hands the opposition new talking-points that could resonant with undecided voters. Think about it!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:20 AM
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25. It Doesn't Say That at All
This guy comes up to me and says, 'Oh yeah?' " Streeter was then spat on by the same man.

No where does the article say the guy who spat on him was a member of the MoveOn group. It doesn't state at all the preference of the assailant.

Deceptive or incomplete reporting? Take your pick.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:22 AM
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27. Sounds like huge setup or major exaggeration to make F9/11 like "Passion"
No names, sketchy details. Do you know liberals who just come out and physically assault people for claiming Kerry and Bush are no different (the Skull and Bones controversy for example). Think story sounds like pure unadulterated bullshit geared to make he movie seem like "Passion of the Christ"
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:05 AM
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2. Ya sow, ya reap.
:shrug:

Better spit than MOABs.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:06 AM
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3. this guy got his cliche backwards
"apples and oranges" means the things are different from each other.

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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:24 AM
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17. 'freeper logic'
ouch, those two words don't belong beside each other...
dp
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:06 AM
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4. if it's true, this is not good
we need to be cool and let the movie speak for it's self
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:08 AM
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9. Well, if a freeper disrupts F 9/11, the audience has every right
to kick his ass. I hate to say it, but they reap what they sow.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:21 AM
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26. The Article Doesn't Say It Was a MoveOn Guy Who Assaulted Him.
read it again, it fails to identify the assailant or his politics.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:06 AM
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5. LOL...NOW Rush and the rest have somethng to talk about when they come bak
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:07 AM
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7. One guy's story and no witnessesses to back him up
Looks to me like he is fabricating the whole story. I'm sure the moveon.org people did speak to him, I doubt the rest of the story is true.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:07 AM
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8. I guess my husband would have been assaulted too
He hates Bush, but thinks Kerry is corrupt to the bone as well (and I'm not so sure he's wrong, though I'm voting for Kerry.)

This is fucked up.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:10 AM
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10. Kerry's not corrupt...I'm from his state
corrupt like he accepts bribes? What leads your husband to that conclusion? I'm curious...
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:29 PM
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33. corrupt like
voted for Patriot Act, voted for Iraq war, Skull and Bones, vetted by the powers that be so he can fulfill the corporate masters' agenda-- but in a "lite way". . .

Husband's theory is-- Repugs come in and destroy social progress, get us into wars, Dems come in and don't do much to reverse it, Repugs come in and make it worse, etc, etc in a downward cycle.

He believes anyone well-connected enough to be electable must be corrupt.

He voted for Kucinich.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:37 PM
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34. husband is a sharp guy
.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:14 AM
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12. guy doesn't sound like a freeper to me
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 09:15 AM by GreenArrow
but just some poor disillusioned slob who understands that niether party is really working for poor average slobs like himself. One party, two wings.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:15 AM
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13. Not cool
under no circumstances is that cool.

But I agree--I want DNA evidence from the blue dress, er, I mean blue jeans that the guy was wearing.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:16 AM
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14. Old BFEE trick - Agent Provocateur


The Oswald-Vallee confrontation helped establish
a right-winger as a lefty. Oswald figured
himself to be the patsy on 22 November 1963.

http://www.assassinationweb.com/shack3g.htm

http://www.jfk-online.com/mitrokhin.html
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:18 AM
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15. Bob Novak spits on people all the time!
And he's rabid!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:25 AM
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18. this is going to happen
there is incredible and justifiable anger out there from dems, lefties, radicals and all sorts because of the 00 election, the phony war, civil rights, etc.
if our side does get embroiled -- be magnanimous -- they are hurt, pissed, and simmering.
if the dark side does it -- hold them upside down over the coals because not only did they start it -- they rubbed everyones face in it for far too long. and payback is a bitch -- and this bitch is getting bigger and meaner every day.
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:37 AM
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19. I may be stereotyping
but this doesn't sound like the actions of the average MoveOn activist.

I have handed out pamphlets and went to other MoveOn sponsored events (peace rallies), and the members of MoveOn don't strike me as being exactly Teamsters. I have a hard time believing this, but, hey, maybe frustration with the Bush regime has turned even liberal peaceniks violent.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:49 AM
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22. I agree!
I do not trust the media and question everything reported. I would need several sources, eye-witnesses, etc. to believe this truly happened.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:39 AM
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20. I was surprised at the LACK of Freepers actually.
Saw F 9/11 at the Lakewood Cinemas, which is just a few miles north of McChord AFB and Ft. Lewis, in an area where freeway overpasses are usually covered in flags and yellow ribbons, with the occasional Freep rally on the weekends. I honestly expected at least a few such people to be there, starting shit.

Not a Freep in sight. What I *DID* see, coming out of the theater was even better. Voter registration in the parking lot. They had the clipboards out and were asking movie-goers if they were registered.

Brilliant move :)
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:42 AM
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21. One must simply remind them of a quote.
"Of course peoples don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

Anyone remember who said this?
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:17 AM
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31. I think it was Herman Goering
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 11:19 AM by alarcoeg
eom

on edit: looked it up on Snopes, and it was Goering
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:55 AM
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23. The press is trying to make the anti-war movement look like violent
hypocrites. It's one of their "talking points"...

Next.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:14 AM
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24. Sounds like typical chain-letter urban legend.
Like the protestors spitting on Vietnam soldiers as they were returning home. I find it so hard to believe that MoveOn activists would spit and asault a FREEPER no less a clueless swing voter that I believe this is a lie.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:39 AM
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28. after reading the article...
why does the name Richard Streeter seem to ring a bell...?

maybe it's just me but I think I have heard that name before somewhere...
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:05 AM
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29. "Kerry, Bush -- one's no better than the other"
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 11:09 AM by Tinoire
"Kerry, Bush -- one's no better than the other"

Doesn't sound like a freeper to me.

Sounds like an Independent Leftist speaking his mind who ran into a bunch of Kerry supporters.

Not everyone who dislikes Kerry is a freeper...

The scene where not one Senator backed the Black Caucus - how'd you feel?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:14 AM
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30. Good for them
Crush the Freepers.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:22 AM
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32. "Spitting?" Marvelous---think about this
This is a claim that will energize a particular faction. The obvious link to the VN war "spitting" incidents is clear. I'm sure that by the end of the weekend there will be *many* reports of "spitting" so that attendees of F911 are linked with "crazy hippies" from the VN era and thus, reinforce the idea that "liberals" are "unpatriotic" and "antiAmerican"

It does NOT matter one bit if this is true or not. What matters is that it is said, associated with a long standing symbol and repeated. I'm fascinated that this is emerging so quickly, but hey, I'm in the business of studying political symbolism so I guess I shouldn't be...:evilgrin:
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